08:05:05 <yasufum> #startmeeting tacker
08:05:05 <openstack> Meeting started Tue May 25 08:05:05 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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08:05:09 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'tacker'
08:07:59 <yasufum> link: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting
08:09:23 <yasufum> I have one topic today about freenode discussed on ML recently.
08:09:55 <ueha> I have one topic about devstack patch we discussed last week.
08:10:08 <yasufum> But it seems that there is some update on topic from ueha.
08:10:21 <yasufum> yes
08:10:41 <ueha> Yes, can I go first?
08:10:44 <yasufum> ueha: could you start from your topic?
08:10:48 <yasufum> sure
08:10:53 <ueha> Thanks!
08:11:21 <ueha> As I was concerned, devstack's patch have been merged today, causing FT errors.
08:11:34 <ueha> "Change default network backend driver to ML2/OVN": https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/791436
08:12:11 <ueha> I'm trying to solve FT error now, but it seems to be not going well..
08:12:58 <ueha> I update and post the following patch:
08:13:19 <ueha> 791252: [DNM] Set ML2 driver to OVS for resolving FT error | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/791252
08:13:34 <ueha> 792872: [DNM] Test to use OVN | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/792872
08:14:51 <ueha> I am not very familiar with devstack configuration. if you have any concerns and advices, please comment to gerrit.
08:16:17 <yasufum> thanks
08:16:35 <ueha> I'll keep trying it!
08:17:27 <ueha> That's all from my side, thanks.
08:17:50 <takahashi-tsc> Thank you so much, Hmm, we should disable some services like q-* explicitly?
08:18:17 <takahashi-tsc> The above is about Using OVS.
08:18:38 <takahashi-tsc> Anyway, I confirm the patch and error.
08:19:48 <ueha> In devstack's patch change, "q-svc: true" is still enable.
08:20:39 <takahashi-tsc> But I think q-* is needed for using OVS...
08:21:27 <ueha> Yes.. I think maybe so
08:22:07 <ueha> and Tacker uses "q-qos",, I'm wondering what to do with this.
08:24:44 <ueha> First of all in 792872, I'm trying to change the services and configurations just like `.zuul` of the devstack patch.
08:25:39 <takahashi-tsc> Sure, thanks. I'm not sure we need some qos feature or not if we use OVN...
08:28:50 <ueha> I think we need to investigate about the configuration for using OVN..
08:29:30 <takahashi-tsc> Yes...
08:33:03 <ueha> first, I will give priority to check and fix the patch 791252 so that the FT can pass.
08:33:04 <yasufum> thank you for both
08:33:15 <yasufum> oK
08:33:59 <yasufum> I would like to check devstack
08:34:45 <yasufum> Is there any comment for the topic?
08:35:48 <yasufum> good
08:35:51 <ueha> It seems nothing, Thank you.
08:36:42 <yasufum> For the next topic, it is remained about CNF installation with Helm, but seems no updates.
08:37:27 <yasufum> So, move on to the next one from me.
08:39:29 <yasufum> As you may know, leaving from freenode has been discussed
08:39:57 <yasufum> as suggested in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022468.html
08:40:10 <yasufum> or http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022539.html
08:40:31 <yasufum> because of takeover of freenode recently
08:44:13 <yasufum> Some of teams have asked to leave from freenode soon
08:44:35 <yasufum> while TC is still waiting for making a decision
08:47:19 <yasufum> We’ve asked to choose a option for feedback from all OpenStack projects to decide our direction then.
08:47:36 <yasufum> So, I would like to here your opinion about that
08:48:07 <yasufum> I don’t think move away from freenode soon.
08:49:33 <takahashi-tsc> I agree, but I'd like to know others' opinion. Why many projects want to move soon?
08:50:13 <ueha> I look at the responses of other projects, is the amount of traffic or IRC activity a criterion for judgment?
08:53:31 <yasufum> takahashi-tsc: I don’t know about it so much actually, but I think they dislike such way of takeover, leaving many volunteer stuffs from freenode.
08:54:20 <yasufum> I also agree to leave from freenode, but think no need to do right now.
08:55:08 <takahashi-tsc> Yes, no need right now.
08:55:11 <yasufum> ueha: might be one of the reason
08:56:18 <yasufum> Anyway, do you have any idea about alternative of freenode?
08:57:44 <yasufum> In some responses for the issue on ML, some of them don’t like slack :)
08:58:40 <yasufum> For me, IRC is familier way to have such a meeting.
08:59:36 <yasufum> But If you have an idea of other tool, you can suggest it to community
09:01:00 <yasufum> What do you think?
09:02:10 <takahashi-tsc> Sorry, I have no idea of other specific tool...
09:03:01 <ueha> I don't know much about others,, but IRC is relatively easy for me to have a meeting with English.
09:03:44 <yasufum> OK, thanks
09:05:59 <yasufum> Here is our opinion, “we are using IRC actively. we agree to move away from freenode, but no need to do right now. So, Option1”
09:06:04 <takahashi-tsc> Hmm, almost projects choose Option2 "We want to move away from Freenode right now."
09:06:30 <yasufum> yes
09:07:32 <yasufum> The decision of communy might be going to Option2.
09:07:41 <takahashi-tsc> Yes, i think so.
09:11:36 <yasufum> Anyway, I would like to share our opinion is option1 on the community’s etherpad, if you still agree to option1
09:12:05 <yasufum> any comment?
09:12:17 <takahashi-tsc> Sure. Option1 is OK.
09:12:28 <yasufum> Thanks
09:12:30 <ueha> +1
09:12:50 <yasufum> If you don’t have any other topics, I would like to close this meeting.
09:13:11 <takahashi-tsc> Not from my side
09:13:39 <yasufum> OK
09:13:50 <yasufum> Thanks for joining, bye!
09:13:56 <takahashi-tsc> thanks bye
09:14:00 <ueha> Thank you, bye
09:14:05 <yasufum> #endmeeting