08:05:05 #startmeeting tacker 08:05:05 Meeting started Tue May 25 08:05:05 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 08:05:06 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 08:05:09 The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' 08:07:59 link: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting 08:09:23 I have one topic today about freenode discussed on ML recently. 08:09:55 I have one topic about devstack patch we discussed last week. 08:10:08 But it seems that there is some update on topic from ueha. 08:10:21 yes 08:10:41 Yes, can I go first? 08:10:44 ueha: could you start from your topic? 08:10:48 sure 08:10:53 Thanks! 08:11:21 As I was concerned, devstack's patch have been merged today, causing FT errors. 08:11:34 "Change default network backend driver to ML2/OVN": https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/791436 08:12:11 I'm trying to solve FT error now, but it seems to be not going well.. 08:12:58 I update and post the following patch: 08:13:19 791252: [DNM] Set ML2 driver to OVS for resolving FT error | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/791252 08:13:34 792872: [DNM] Test to use OVN | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/792872 08:14:51 I am not very familiar with devstack configuration. if you have any concerns and advices, please comment to gerrit. 08:16:17 thanks 08:16:35 I'll keep trying it! 08:17:27 That's all from my side, thanks. 08:17:50 Thank you so much, Hmm, we should disable some services like q-* explicitly? 08:18:17 The above is about Using OVS. 08:18:38 Anyway, I confirm the patch and error. 08:19:48 In devstack's patch change, "q-svc: true" is still enable. 08:20:39 But I think q-* is needed for using OVS... 08:21:27 Yes.. I think maybe so 08:22:07 and Tacker uses "q-qos",, I'm wondering what to do with this. 08:24:44 First of all in 792872, I'm trying to change the services and configurations just like `.zuul` of the devstack patch. 08:25:39 Sure, thanks. I'm not sure we need some qos feature or not if we use OVN... 08:28:50 I think we need to investigate about the configuration for using OVN.. 08:29:30 Yes... 08:33:03 first, I will give priority to check and fix the patch 791252 so that the FT can pass. 08:33:04 thank you for both 08:33:15 oK 08:33:59 I would like to check devstack 08:34:45 Is there any comment for the topic? 08:35:48 good 08:35:51 It seems nothing, Thank you. 08:36:42 For the next topic, it is remained about CNF installation with Helm, but seems no updates. 08:37:27 So, move on to the next one from me. 08:39:29 As you may know, leaving from freenode has been discussed 08:39:57 as suggested in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022468.html 08:40:10 or http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022539.html 08:40:31 because of takeover of freenode recently 08:44:13 Some of teams have asked to leave from freenode soon 08:44:35 while TC is still waiting for making a decision 08:47:19 We’ve asked to choose a option for feedback from all OpenStack projects to decide our direction then. 08:47:36 So, I would like to here your opinion about that 08:48:07 I don’t think move away from freenode soon. 08:49:33 I agree, but I'd like to know others' opinion. Why many projects want to move soon? 08:50:13 I look at the responses of other projects, is the amount of traffic or IRC activity a criterion for judgment? 08:53:31 takahashi-tsc: I don’t know about it so much actually, but I think they dislike such way of takeover, leaving many volunteer stuffs from freenode. 08:54:20 I also agree to leave from freenode, but think no need to do right now. 08:55:08 Yes, no need right now. 08:55:11 ueha: might be one of the reason 08:56:18 Anyway, do you have any idea about alternative of freenode? 08:57:44 In some responses for the issue on ML, some of them don’t like slack :) 08:58:40 For me, IRC is familier way to have such a meeting. 08:59:36 But If you have an idea of other tool, you can suggest it to community 09:01:00 What do you think? 09:02:10 Sorry, I have no idea of other specific tool... 09:03:01 I don't know much about others,, but IRC is relatively easy for me to have a meeting with English. 09:03:44 OK, thanks 09:05:59 Here is our opinion, “we are using IRC actively. we agree to move away from freenode, but no need to do right now. So, Option1” 09:06:04 Hmm, almost projects choose Option2 "We want to move away from Freenode right now." 09:06:30 yes 09:07:32 The decision of communy might be going to Option2. 09:07:41 Yes, i think so. 09:11:36 Anyway, I would like to share our opinion is option1 on the community’s etherpad, if you still agree to option1 09:12:05 any comment? 09:12:17 Sure. Option1 is OK. 09:12:28 Thanks 09:12:30 +1 09:12:50 If you don’t have any other topics, I would like to close this meeting. 09:13:11 Not from my side 09:13:39 OK 09:13:50 Thanks for joining, bye! 09:13:56 thanks bye 09:14:00 Thank you, bye 09:14:05 #endmeeting