08:02:11 <yasufum> #startmeeting tacker
08:02:11 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Tue Jul 13 08:02:11 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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08:02:11 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'tacker'
08:03:00 <yasufum> hi
08:03:49 <takahashi-tsc> hi
08:04:08 <yasufum> manpreet: First of all, thank you for fixing the issue of sqlalchemy.
08:04:48 <yasufum> We have one topic on etherpad today.
08:04:53 <yasufum> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting
08:05:22 <manpreetk> yasufum:Thanks to you and Ueha san .
08:05:57 <ueha> Thanks too. :)
08:06:10 <yasufum> my pleasure
08:06:48 <yasufum> Before talking about the topic, I’d like to share about the next PTG.
08:07:21 <yasufum> It will be held through 18 - 22 Oct.
08:08:36 <yasufum> I’m going to prepare an etherpad for PTG, and share in the next irc meeting.
08:09:44 <yasufum> Time slots might be the same as previous vPTG.
08:10:26 <yasufum> But please ask me if you have a request for tme slots.
08:11:32 <yasufum> Is there any comment? or go to the first topic from h_asahina?
08:11:56 <ueha> Thank you. Nothing in particular. I think the previous time slot is good for me.
08:13:16 <yasufum> OK
08:13:45 <yasufum> h_asahina: can you share your topic?
08:13:55 <h_asahina> ok
08:14:42 <h_asahina> As I mentioned before, we are planing to provide some tools to help creating an environment to test Tacker
08:15:29 <h_asahina> So, today I'd like to ask you all which is the most helpful tool.
08:16:25 <h_asahina> I listed four options on the etherpad: Vagrant Boxes, Vagrantfiles, Scripts and Samples. Please vote ones that you think it's helpful.
08:17:28 <h_asahina> I also listed pros and cons of each tool.
08:18:37 <h_asahina> I hope it will be helpful for you to think about usefulness of each tool.
08:18:46 <h_asahina> That's all from my side. Thanks.
08:20:48 <yasufum> Do we need to vote? and is there any deadline for?
08:21:50 <h_asahina> Please vote one of them
08:22:22 <h_asahina> There's no deadline so far
08:23:26 <ueha> Thank you for proposal. In the case of Vagrant Boxes, will it be a "all in one" environment with nova and keystone, etc.? or Tacker only?
08:24:16 <h_asahina> I will be "all in one". I think it's more helpful for most of users.
08:24:31 <h_asahina> Sorry It will be.
08:25:42 <ueha> Thank you, I think so, "all in one" is more helpful.
08:26:06 <ueha> but I wonder if it works well after host OS starting.
08:27:13 <ueha> After restarting the environment we built with devstack, it was difficult to get it to work..
08:28:27 <ueha> In the end, I often rebuild it with devstack again. I think it's okay if there is a way to avoid it.
08:29:35 <h_asahina> Do you mean restarting guest OS?
08:30:32 <ueha> Yes, the VM on which openstack runs.
08:31:05 <h_asahina> I got it. I suppose we can avoid it by Vagrant Box.
08:31:42 <h_asahina> Because Vagrant Box can provide an environment where the devstack has already been run
08:32:35 <h_asahina> So once it successfully works. It must work everytime you launch VM.
08:33:21 <ueha> I see, that's good.
08:36:11 <ueha> Thank you, I'll vote it.
08:36:17 <masaki-ueno> I have one question about the difference between Vagrantfile and Script.
08:37:03 <h_asahina> > ueah: Thanks :)
08:38:10 <masaki-ueno> I think Vagrantfile might include some scripts to deploy components related to tacker, thus there will be some effort to maintain both Vagrantfile itself and deploy scripts, right?
08:38:50 <h_asahina> Yes. You're right
08:42:01 <masaki-ueno> Thanks. Then, where is the difference between deploy scripts and "Scripts" proposal?
08:44:20 <h_asahina> It might be the same but scripts used by Vagrant can be scripts of some provisioning tool like ansible or puppet
08:45:12 <h_asahina> Also, if you choose Vagrantfile, that means only vagrant file users can get the benefits.
08:46:10 <h_asahina> If you choose Scripts, it might be possible to provide scripts for various users who use different environments.
08:47:45 <masaki-ueno> I got it. Thank you for your answer! :)
08:48:01 <h_asahina> thanks
08:53:07 <yasufum> thanks
08:53:14 <yasufum> any other comments?
08:53:30 <ueha> May I clarify this proposal's target?
08:54:27 <ueha> You write target is to "users to test Tacker features", so not to developer?
08:56:37 <h_asahina> Yes. The target is the users. If it can be helpful for developrs, that's good but is not the first priority.
08:57:03 <ueha> I got it, thank you.
08:57:24 <h_asahina> thank you too.
08:58:52 <ueha> Nothing from my side more. Thank you.
09:00:29 <yasufum> OK. It seems we have discussed enough for the topic.
09:01:15 <yasufum> Do you have any other topic?
09:02:09 <yasufum> good
09:02:38 <yasufum> I’d like to close this meeting.
09:02:48 <yasufum> Thank you for joining.
09:02:50 <yasufum> bye
09:02:52 <masaki-ueno> Thanks, bye
09:02:56 <ueha> Thank you, bye!
09:02:59 <takahashi-tsc> thanks, bye
09:03:10 <yasufum> #endmeeting