08:04:11 <yasufum> #startmeeting tacker
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08:04:31 <yasufum> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting
08:04:36 <takahashi-tsc> Now I write very small 2 confirmation.
08:04:47 <takahashi-tsc> Can I start?
08:05:12 <yasufum> go ahead please
08:05:42 <takahashi-tsc> First, about PTG and just confirm update. Does anyone know PTG is only F2F or hybrid?
08:06:11 <takahashi-tsc> I'm concerned that early bird deadline is soon...
08:07:22 <yasufum> I think so
08:08:21 <takahashi-tsc> If noone know, I'll confirm to some TC members...
08:08:34 <yasufum> I've been confirming about it via team survey on ptg registration, but not sure when a response will be made.
08:09:15 <takahashi-tsc> Thanks. OK... we will confirm it continuousky.
08:09:40 <yasufum> #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-columbus-2022-tickets-374118026087?_ga=2.224692186.1944712300.1657557943-21017074.1657557943
08:10:25 <yasufum> as takahashi-tsc mentioned, it's $250 USD for early bird, deadline is the end of this month.
08:11:05 <yasufum> It's not free for the next ptg unexpectedly :)
08:11:39 <takahashi-tsc> yeah...
08:12:40 <takahashi-tsc> Anyway, now no one know it, Please share the information if you get.
08:13:13 <yasufum> sure
08:13:33 <takahashi-tsc> If no other comments, I'll move on next topic.
08:13:41 <yasufum> ok
08:14:26 <takahashi-tsc> 2nd topic is about python-tackerclient. Now my team member faces issue. Does anyone know there is some issue of python-tackerclient?
08:14:27 <takahashi-tsc> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-tackerclient/+/847746
08:15:05 <takahashi-tsc> This is just confirmation. We will share our understanding at next this IRC. but If someone know the cause, I'd like to know.
08:15:15 <yasufum> I haven't noticed the issue.
08:17:15 <takahashi-tsc> OK... it seems environment issue, so we will investigate it and want to discuss it at next IRC.
08:17:30 <yasufum> It seems a problem of dependencies of libs from the log.
08:17:44 <takahashi-tsc> Yes.
08:19:50 <takahashi-tsc> OK, if you know or notice something, please let me know. At least we will share our understanding.
08:20:33 <takahashi-tsc> Or... we may submit some patch to resovle it.
08:21:27 <yasufum> ok
08:21:43 <takahashi-tsc> That's it. Thanks,
08:22:41 <yasufum> thanks for sharing
08:23:56 <yasufum> Any other topic, or close this meeting?
08:24:01 <h_asahina> i have one topic, but forgot to update etherpad. should i carry it over to the next week? i'm not in rush
08:24:38 <yasufum> no problem discussing today.
08:24:50 <h_asahina> thanks
08:25:42 <h_asahina> my topic is about mistral. as you know, Tacker has the dependecy on mistral.
08:26:17 <h_asahina> so we need to deploy mistral along with takcer
08:26:52 <h_asahina> but, usually, it's just used for vim alive monitoring.
08:27:38 <h_asahina> that you can see as `Reachable/Unreachable` when you call `openstack vim list`
08:28:13 <h_asahina> Since Tacker is VNFM now, alive monitoring for vim is not a requierement.
08:28:28 <h_asahina> so, we want to add configuration to disable this feature.
08:28:36 <h_asahina> so that we can deploy tacker without mistral.
08:28:56 <h_asahina> could you tell me your opinion?
08:30:48 <yasufum> any comment?
08:31:12 <ueha> I think there was a proposal to change to not use "mistral".
08:31:23 <ueha> spec: https://opendev.org/openstack/tacker-specs/src/branch/master/specs/yoga/vim-monitor-feature.rst
08:31:33 <ueha> WIP patch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/828638
08:31:52 <ueha> Is it different from this?
08:33:00 <takahashi-tsc> Ah, this is my team's patch.Basically it may work, but now we do not proceed with it.
08:34:18 <h_asahina> looks similar, but it adds a new feature, isn't it?
08:34:19 <takahashi-tsc> (just priority...)
08:34:43 <takahashi-tsc> Yes. we plan to add new monitoring feature.
08:35:12 <takahashi-tsc> But h_asahina's proposal is, monitoring feature itself is out of scope, isn't it?
08:35:23 <h_asahina> yes
08:35:58 <h_asahina> but my first priority is excluding mistral when deploying tacker, so it might work.
08:36:26 <h_asahina> if this patch doesn't use mistral.
08:36:42 <takahashi-tsc> Yes, tihs doesn't use mistral.
08:37:30 <h_asahina> let me confirm. the reason you leave vim monitoring feature is the backward compatibility?
08:37:31 <takahashi-tsc> The first purpose of this patch is to fix some bug, but now the bug is not reproducible (I forget the details...)
08:38:44 <h_asahina> i mean you can just remove the dependency on mistral, but you didn't
08:40:08 <takahashi-tsc> Purpose is to fix bug, and the way is remove dependecy on mistral because it is difficult to follow fully mistral features.
08:41:00 <takahashi-tsc> Maybe... sometimes VIM status is not changed to Reachable even VIM works properly.
08:41:40 <takahashi-tsc> Sorry, VIM status *was* not changed to Reachable, but now the bug is not reproducible.
08:42:52 <h_asahina> if so, removing the vim monitoring can be an option.
08:43:00 <takahashi-tsc> Yes, correct.
08:43:57 <h_asahina> if there's no objection, I'd like to recommend to change this patch to remove the vim monitoring itself.
08:45:02 <h_asahina> also, maybe, we can take over that patch, if the original commiter don't have enough time and if he/she doesn't mind.
08:46:04 <takahashi-tsc> I agree with you. In addition, I tihink VIM status is only used for desply the status. e.g. Tacker try to use VIM even if the status is unreachable. This status is meaningless...
08:46:23 <takahashi-tsc> Thanks, could you take over the patch?
08:46:43 <h_asahina> yes. i will.
08:47:02 <takahashi-tsc> Many thanks.
08:47:20 <h_asahina> my pleasure. thank you too.
08:47:41 <yasufum> thx
08:49:14 <yasufum> so, it might be discussed enough
08:51:10 <yasufum> Let's close this meeting if no one has item anymore.
08:52:44 <yasufum> ok
08:52:57 <yasufum> Thank you for joining, bye!
08:53:06 <manpreetk> thanks bye.
08:53:07 <h_asahina> bye
08:53:09 <ma-ooyama> nye
08:53:13 <masaki-ueno> bye
08:53:14 <takahashi-tsc> thanks, bye
08:53:16 <Ramona-ho-xu> bye
08:53:19 <yuta-kazato> bye
08:53:20 <ueha> thanks bye.
08:53:27 <yasufum> #endmeeting