08:02:03 <yasufum> #startmeeting tacker
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08:02:24 <yasufum> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting
08:03:05 <yasufum> Just an update on the etherpad from last week.
08:03:09 <yasufum> of mine.
08:03:39 <yasufum> Can I confirm is there any other update at first?
08:04:32 <yasufum> Nothing?
08:04:41 <takahashi-tsc> Nothing from my side
08:04:48 <yasufum> good
08:05:01 <yasufum> Let's move on to the first topic.
08:05:12 <yasufum> #topic Moving governance of tosca-parser(and heat-translator ?) to Tacker
08:05:54 <yasufum> It's a proposal on openstack discuss ML posted yesterday
08:06:25 <yasufum> about governance of tosca-parser and heat-translator
08:06:32 <yasufum> to move them under tacker.
08:08:59 <yasufum> As you may know, we've contributed to these projs because tacker strongly depend on them
08:09:25 <yasufum> but were not maintained at that time.
08:10:49 <yasufum> As described in the post, no contributes other than from tacker team has been suggested for the projs in recent releases
08:11:17 <yasufum> it might be because no one has been interested them actually.
08:13:39 <yasufum> I'd like to hear, for now, is
08:16:24 <yasufum> is there anyone interested to maintain or own the projs actually?
08:19:46 <yasufum> Or any comment for the proposal?
08:21:26 <takahashi-tsc> Agree with the direction, but honestly, I'm not sure what exactly will change... Is there a formal procedure to change the governance?
08:22:53 <yasufum> I think so, but know almost nothing actually.
08:24:33 <yasufum> I think the situation is not so different from heat team, not so much understanding about them and might be hard to make contributions regulaly.
08:26:43 <yasufum> although we can still make contributions as reviewers.
08:27:04 <takahashi-tsc> In my understanding, no one will continue to develop for these projects, but *sometimes* bugfix or small feature addition is required, i.e. we need just "maintenance". And now it is already acheived because Tacker can already merge patches.
08:27:37 <takahashi-tsc> What is the concrete requirement from heat project...>
08:27:39 <takahashi-tsc> ?
08:29:43 <yasufum> I'm not sure, but wounder there is some extra tasks if we will own these projs under tacker.
08:30:00 <yasufum> or some responsibilities.
08:32:17 <yasufum> Anyway, we can simply ask him about the concern.
08:32:33 <takahashi-tsc> yes, agree.
08:34:09 <yasufum> OK
08:36:26 <yasufum> I'd like to make it clear what we should do and any other concerns on ML before making the decision in our team.
08:36:49 <yasufum> I mean, let's continue to discuss this topic next meeting.
08:37:08 <takahashi-tsc> +1
08:37:56 <ueha> thank you, I agree.
08:38:22 <yasufum> So, go to the next topic.
08:39:10 <yasufum> I have no progress for the second one for now.
08:40:00 <yasufum> For third one, proposing a forum session on the next summit,
08:40:30 <yasufum> thanks for some comments added at the last.
08:40:33 <yasufum> #link Operator feedback for Tacker's ETSI-NFV usecases
08:40:39 <yasufum> sorry
08:40:42 <yasufum> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-forum-feedback-for-etsi-nfv-usecases
08:41:38 <yasufum> However, no other topic added unfortunately...
08:43:36 <yasufum> I've expected the amount of time of our session will be 70min, so it might not be enough topics for.
08:43:43 <yasufum> What do you think?
08:44:14 <yasufum> Or do you think we can have discussion enough for current topics?
08:46:13 <yasufum> takahashi-tsc: any idea?
08:47:09 <takahashi-tsc> It depends on the participants... Currently time for one topic is about 17 minutes. It is often short.
08:50:36 <yasufum> Umm... I think 17mins is too enough for 1st and 4th topics at least.
08:52:29 <takahashi-tsc> I think it would be possible to expand the discussion based on current topics on the day of forum, but...yes It is better to make more topics.
08:53:29 <yasufum> Or it's enough topics if we have plenty discussion points on 2nd and 3rd topics.
08:54:12 <yasufum> I'd expect you to propose any concrete items on the 3rd one.
08:54:16 <yasufum> if possible.
08:55:50 <takahashi-tsc> I'll try, because I also attend NFV and O-RAN SC.
08:56:16 <takahashi-tsc> I try to make some proposals...
08:56:20 <yasufum> I'd appreciate to hear that :)
08:57:04 <yasufum> Anyway, I'd like to start to summarize our topics for proposing the forum
08:57:11 <yasufum> to meet the deadline.
08:57:43 <yasufum> And share a draft ver before.
08:58:07 <yasufum> among us
08:59:18 <yasufum> So, it's helpful if you add your items soon, or before the next meeting at least.
08:59:26 <takahashi-tsc> sure
09:00:19 <yasufum> Thanks
09:02:19 <yasufum> Now it's the end of the meeting and we've discussed today's topics.
09:03:03 <yasufum> So, let's close this meeting if no more comments.
09:04:51 <yasufum> But before, I'd remind you that RC1 is next week.
09:06:08 <yasufum> #link https://releases.openstack.org/antelope/schedule.html
09:06:26 <yasufum> thanks
09:08:30 <ueha> I'm going to review remained patches! thanks for your reminder. :)
09:08:41 <yasufum> thx
09:09:06 <yasufum> OK, seem no more comments.
09:09:19 <yasufum> Thank you for joining, bye!
09:09:21 <manpreetk_> Thanks and Bye.
09:09:36 <yuta-kazato> bye!
09:09:38 <hiromu> bye
09:09:49 <yasufum> #endmeeting