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17:08:17 <malini1> ok..now we are in the right place in the machine :D
17:08:40 <beisner> o/ woot
17:08:47 <clee> o/
17:08:54 <malini1> yayy..people !!!
17:08:57 <clee> damn, looks like I was too late
17:09:05 <clee> oh! or not.
17:09:12 <malini1> clee: no - we were just getting started
17:09:21 <clee> how was Tokyo? :)
17:09:51 <malini1> Tokyo was great - except we didn't make any significant progress at the summit
17:09:55 <malini1> :/
17:10:16 <malini1> But the new perf team is certainly interesting
17:10:31 <hockeynut> another day would have been good - so much to do with the other projects :-(
17:10:40 <hockeynut> the perf stuff does sound cool
17:10:45 <malini1> + gema & me had some conversations with the refstack ptl
17:11:13 <malini1> there seems to be areas where we can help them with the  gaps in tests for capabilities
17:11:33 <malini1> It is a small area to start of, but we can have big impact there
17:11:42 <hockeynut> that's excellent.  gives us credibility
17:12:40 <malini1> https://github.com/openstack/defcore/tree/master/2015.07 is the capability definition
17:12:51 <malini1> & if you look in there, there is a flagged.txt
17:13:16 <malini1> these are capabilities that are currently not being validated due to some reason
17:13:35 <malini1> If these are flagged due to test gaps, we can help fix them
17:14:26 <malini1> thts the update from me..
17:14:43 <malini1> beisner, hockeynut: did you have anything from the summit?
17:15:48 <hockeynut> I was glad to see some new security testing tooling - see https://github.com/openstack/syntribos
17:18:11 <beisner> i was particularly interested in the sessions that discussed tempest / rally plugins
17:18:36 <malini1> I missed the rally plugins
17:18:44 <beisner> but some of the best content for me was in the between-session convos between ptls
17:18:55 <beisner> mostly attended rally/tempest-centered sessions
17:19:51 <malini1> beisner, hockeynut: did you find any areas where folks in our groups might get involved?
17:20:09 <malini1> The performance team sounded very spyderdyne to me :)
17:20:25 <hockeynut> the performance stuff is interesting to me as well since I've done a lot of that in my previous life
17:20:49 <beisner> +1 to a perf testing effort
17:21:04 <hockeynut> most of the sessions I attended were the barbican and neutron ones.  Not enough hours in the day to do everything I wanted :-(
17:21:04 <malini1> I think we should join hands with them, rather than go our separate route
17:21:10 <hockeynut> +1
17:21:53 <beisner> hockeynut, that was an issue for me as well.  choices, choices
17:22:04 <malini1> clee: anything specific from the summit you want to know abt?
17:22:06 <hockeynut> yup.  plus a LOT of conflicts
17:22:28 <hockeynut> every day @ 2PM I had a list of at least 4 sessions I wanted to attend
17:22:43 <malini1> I ran into far fewer testing folks this time around :(
17:22:47 <clee> malini1: nothing specific, I wasn't able to attend so I'm curious about it :)
17:23:08 <malini1> clee: I personally found the Vancouver summit more productive
17:23:37 <hockeynut> malini1 is correct.  Even for my projects (barbican, neutron) I felt that more got done in VAN
17:24:02 <hockeynut> drastic time change could have had an effect
17:24:25 <malini1> Or fewer ppl flew in because of the travel expenses
17:24:29 <hockeynut> that too
17:24:59 <malini1> anyways, tht's all the summit updates I had
17:25:56 <malini1> hockeynut, beisner: anything else you want to add?
17:26:31 <hockeynut> nope
17:26:48 <hockeynut> but I will recommend watching the videos, esp James Bottomley's talk on containers
17:26:50 <beisner> not at the moment.  i've got some notes that i still need to revisit and sanitize
17:27:43 <malini1> Anything else to discuss today?
17:30:00 <clee> sounds like a no :)
17:30:02 <hockeynut> what's the next step for engaging with Bela (I think that's her name) on the performance stuff?  I saw a note a while ago but nothing since
17:31:01 <malini1> hmm…Do you really think we need a process for tht? whoever has the right skillset can engage with them directly -rt?
17:31:34 <malini1> tht's just my personal opinion - which might be totally messed up
17:32:11 <malini1> hockeynut: did you have any thoughts on tht?
17:32:33 <hockeynut> wasn't sure if that was going to be a group effort, or just each of us who is interested go after it ourselves
17:32:56 <malini1> hockeynut: do u have a preference?
17:33:41 <hockeynut> not really
17:34:25 <malini1> hockeynut: are you planning to start working on tht?
17:34:54 <hockeynut> I would be very interested, yes.
17:35:38 <malini1> hockeynut: i would suggest you to start working with them directly, bring back your findings here & that can potentially interest somebody else here
17:35:51 <hockeynut> that works
17:36:58 <malini1> anything else?
17:38:30 <hockeynut> not I
17:38:45 <malini1> clee, beisner: anything else?
17:38:51 <clee> nothing from me
17:39:23 <malini1> I guess tht's it for today then :)
17:39:34 <malini1> Thanks everybody for joining !!
17:39:39 <malini1> #endmeeting