15:00:55 <mnaser> #startmeeting tc 15:00:55 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jan 28 15:00:55 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mnaser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:56 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:58 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'tc' 15:01:24 <gmann> o/ 15:01:33 <mnaser> #topic roll call 15:01:34 <mnaser> o/ 15:01:40 <ricolin> o/ 15:01:47 <belmoreira> o/ 15:02:21 <mnaser> how are y'all doing 15:02:49 <diablo_rojo> o/ 15:03:15 <jungleboyj> o/ 15:03:24 <diablo_rojo> Tired. How are you mnaser? 15:03:35 <mnaser> lololol very much the same 15:03:38 <mnaser> with this ball of energy running around me 15:03:42 <ricolin> mnaser, doing great:) 15:03:47 <mnaser> currently spinning at 4000 rpm chasing his own tail 15:04:01 <jungleboyj> mnaser: ++ Yeah, that is how I feel. 15:04:06 <gmann> going same way, nothing changed actually, stuck inside :) 15:04:11 <diablo_rojo> mnaser, have you realized yet that he now runs your life? 15:04:30 <mnaser> im doing my best to make that turn around lol 15:04:50 <diablo_rojo> mnaser, it will take a couple months lol 15:05:13 <mnaser> he's a land shark right now 15:05:19 <mnaser> #topic Follow up on past action items 15:05:29 <ricolin> hanging there:) 15:05:29 <mnaser> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-01-21-15.00.html 15:05:34 <mnaser> diablo_rojo complete retirement of karbor 15:05:51 <diablo_rojo> I updated the patches that needed to be updated (I think) 15:06:04 <diablo_rojo> The days blur together a bit. 15:06:17 <mnaser> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/767056 15:06:34 <mnaser> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/767057 15:06:46 <gmann> this is still failing, did not see failure yet, anything pending on repo side 15:07:04 <diablo_rojo> I will take that as a no- still more work to do. 15:07:13 <mnaser> the project-confgi change has a -1 15:07:18 <gmann> rebase issue https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/767057/2/zuul.d/projects.yaml 15:07:24 <mnaser> ^ yeah 15:07:43 <diablo_rojo> Whoops. 15:07:53 <diablo_rojo> Bungled that rebase. 15:08:00 <diablo_rojo> Ill fix it today. 15:08:16 <gmann> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522retire-karbor%2522+status:open 15:08:35 <mnaser> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522retire-karbor%2522+status:open 15:08:37 <gmann> diablo_rojo: x/flame is not active so you can leave that open 15:08:59 <mnaser> ok cool, so we'll keep it as an action item for the next one to follow up on it 15:09:07 <mnaser> #action diablo_rojo complete retirement of karbor 15:09:11 <diablo_rojo> Yep. Sorry! 15:09:14 <mnaser> diablo_rojo/ricolin reach out to SIGs/ML and start auditing states of SIGs 15:09:25 <diablo_rojo> I did this 15:09:28 <ricolin> diablo_rojo, already make ML and etherpad out 15:09:30 <diablo_rojo> and started an etherpad 15:09:31 <mnaser> (we have a topic for this later diablo_rojo ,wanna keep it for then?) 15:09:37 <mnaser> and ricolin :> 15:09:41 <diablo_rojo> Sure? 15:09:44 <diablo_rojo> Either works 15:10:02 <mnaser> okey cool, lets keep it for the agenda discussion topic :> 15:10:08 <mnaser> mnaser drop "Add Resolution of TC stance on the OpenStackClient" from agenda < done 15:10:35 <ricolin> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2021-SIG-Updates 15:10:39 <mnaser> mnaser reach out to tripleo + other high usage job teams re: usage < done, and started talking with the tripleo team about reducing their usage, i dont have a full update yet but we are progressing, i will try and ask a public share of the progress :) 15:11:07 <mnaser> the rest is a bunch of topic drops which are all done, so lets save some time :> 15:11:14 <mnaser> #topic Audit SIG list and chairs (diablo_rojo) 15:11:18 <mnaser> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2021-SIG-Updates 15:11:26 <diablo_rojo> So there's that etherpad^ 15:11:28 <mnaser> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-January/019994.html 15:12:00 <diablo_rojo> I sent it to the ML and have had a little pickup, but could use more opinions than largely just ricolin's and mine :) 15:12:17 <mnaser> tc-members: ^ please leave comments on that etherpd 15:12:53 <gmann> may be we should get the SIG chari/co-chair opinion also if we can reach out to them. 15:13:02 * dansmith is here, btw 15:13:24 <gmann> if not reachable then automatically that SIG need update either new chair or move the state 15:13:42 <mnaser> yes that si correct 15:14:44 <mnaser> #action tc-members review and leave comments on the etherpad for SIG updates 15:14:48 <diablo_rojo> Thats kind of what I was hoping 15:14:50 <ricolin> we can indeed ask each SIG to update it's chair or status if they don't reply the ML or etherpad 15:14:56 <diablo_rojo> I just didnt do direct outreach yet 15:15:28 <gmann> yeah, ML has been ignored by leaders in many cases in past like PTL case:) 15:15:31 <mnaser> ok thats fair, well i think diablo_rojo and ricolin are pushing this pretty well :) 15:15:39 <gmann> +1 15:17:18 <mnaser> next-up 15:17:20 <mnaser> #topic Gate performance and heavy job configs (dansmith) 15:17:24 <jungleboyj> ++ 15:17:34 <dansmith> oh sticky 15:17:52 <dansmith> things are a lot better today than they were a week ago, which I chalk up to the tripleo jobs being dropped from neutron, 15:18:05 <dansmith> and also fungi had some cloud capacity he was using for personal bitcoin mining that he gave back to the pool 15:18:10 <gmann> yeah but still it is ling queue 15:18:13 <fungi> hah 15:18:18 <dansmith> yeah, it's still very long, but better 15:18:32 <dansmith> we have a bunch of spurious job failures which are also not helping 15:19:05 <dansmith> I also cut 25% of the time off of a devstack run, 15:19:08 <dansmith> but gmann wasn't impressed 15:19:25 <gmann> :), I am still bringing my VM up to test that. 15:19:44 <dansmith> but, I think progress is being made.. I still wouldn't rule out a syncup with the tripleo people 15:19:45 <dansmith> gmann: :) 15:19:51 <mnaser> dansmith: wow how was that done? 15:20:09 <gmann> +1 on tripleo syncup 15:20:12 <dansmith> mnaser: trying to figure out how to answer that properly :) 15:20:34 <dansmith> mnaser: I have a patch up to parallelize devstack instead of do everything in serial which saves a lot of time 15:20:39 <dansmith> five minutes to stack for me locally 15:20:50 <dansmith> and there's a lot of parallelizing left that can be done to make it faster 15:20:57 <mnaser> neaaaat 15:21:05 <dansmith> mnaser: this is just stack.sh time, not the whole devstack tempest run of course 15:21:05 <slaweq> dansmith: hi, do we have any new data how much of time are neutron jobs using now? 15:21:26 <dansmith> slaweq: we could ask clarkb to regen that, but I think it probably takes several weeks to get a noticeable number 15:21:37 <jungleboyj> dansmith: That is cool. 15:21:38 <slaweq> dansmith: ok 15:21:40 <ricolin> dansmith, nice! 15:21:42 <dansmith> slaweq: I have taken you and your project off my dart board though :) 15:21:54 <slaweq> dansmith: good to hear that :) 15:21:57 <slaweq> thx 15:22:58 <mnaser> I will try and have an update from the tripleo team 15:23:21 <mnaser> Thanks for those patches. Have a link for them handy dansmith 15:23:21 <gmann> +1, thanks 15:23:28 <dansmith> yeah, 15:23:35 <gmann> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/771505/5 15:23:41 <gmann> ^^ 15:23:41 <dansmith> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/771505 15:23:44 <dansmith> er, yeah 15:24:09 <dansmith> mnaser: gmann had them handy because he's busy reviewing them, I'm sure :P 15:24:13 <gmann> I will test and update on this, mainly with fresh VM as gate does fresh VM always instead of stack/unstack 15:24:18 * dansmith stops laying it on so thick 15:24:24 <gmann> dansmith: yeah :) 15:24:28 <dansmith> hehe 15:24:39 <gmann> its one of the priority open tab for me 15:24:48 <dansmith> woohoo :) 15:27:06 <mnaser> cool 15:28:02 <mnaser> #action mnaser continue to sync with tripleo team to reduce usage 15:28:14 <mnaser> #action qa team to land parallelizing changes for devstack 15:28:18 <mnaser> #topic Dropping lower-constraints testing from all projects (gmann) 15:28:56 <gmann> I am testing the l-c job with direct deps only which is what we have in requirements.txt 15:29:05 <gmann> that is one of the proposal on ML 15:29:06 <gmann> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/772780 15:29:39 <gmann> I will update the results on ML after gate finsh 15:29:59 <gmann> that is all form me on this. 15:30:33 <gmann> may be fungi has something to update or share on this. 15:32:30 <mnaser> i guess they are afk :) 15:32:37 <mnaser> ok so we'll just update on that 15:32:40 <mnaser> #topic Open Reviews 15:32:50 <gmann> yeah, we can continue this on ML and next week we can have more data 15:33:13 <fungi> i didn't have anything new on the l-c discussion beyond what i posted to the ml, no 15:33:27 <fungi> (not afk, just lots of discussions to juggle right now) 15:34:49 <mnaser> ok, we have a few reviews that we need to finish up 15:35:08 <mnaser> can i ask tc members to carve up sometime to go over reviews 15:35:46 <gmann> two left for me as un-reviewed, i will do today(within meeting as we have time) 15:36:08 <jungleboyj> mnaser: Will make time for that. 15:36:09 <mnaser> any changes anyone wants to call out? 15:37:10 <gmann> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/770860 15:37:28 <gmann> Xena testing runtime, which replacing centos -> centos stream 15:37:38 <gmann> something rdo community to notice 15:37:49 <gmann> yoctozepto: ^^ 15:38:59 <ricolin> +1ed 15:39:27 <mnaser> any other open discussion items? 15:41:37 <gmann> nothing from me 15:41:43 <ricolin> nothing from me 15:42:24 <jungleboyj> Nothing from me. 15:43:59 <dansmith> le no 15:44:04 <yoctozepto> gmann: thanks 15:45:48 <mnaser> #endmeeting