15:00:55 #startmeeting tc 15:00:55 Meeting started Thu Jan 28 15:00:55 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mnaser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:56 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:58 The meeting name has been set to 'tc' 15:01:24 o/ 15:01:33 #topic roll call 15:01:34 o/ 15:01:40 o/ 15:01:47 o/ 15:02:21 how are y'all doing 15:02:49 o/ 15:03:15 o/ 15:03:24 Tired. How are you mnaser? 15:03:35 lololol very much the same 15:03:38 with this ball of energy running around me 15:03:42 mnaser, doing great:) 15:03:47 currently spinning at 4000 rpm chasing his own tail 15:04:01 mnaser: ++ Yeah, that is how I feel. 15:04:06 going same way, nothing changed actually, stuck inside :) 15:04:11 mnaser, have you realized yet that he now runs your life? 15:04:30 im doing my best to make that turn around lol 15:04:50 mnaser, it will take a couple months lol 15:05:13 he's a land shark right now 15:05:19 #topic Follow up on past action items 15:05:29 hanging there:) 15:05:29 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-01-21-15.00.html 15:05:34 diablo_rojo complete retirement of karbor 15:05:51 I updated the patches that needed to be updated (I think) 15:06:04 The days blur together a bit. 15:06:17 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/767056 15:06:34 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/767057 15:06:46 this is still failing, did not see failure yet, anything pending on repo side 15:07:04 I will take that as a no- still more work to do. 15:07:13 the project-confgi change has a -1 15:07:18 rebase issue https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/767057/2/zuul.d/projects.yaml 15:07:24 ^ yeah 15:07:43 Whoops. 15:07:53 Bungled that rebase. 15:08:00 Ill fix it today. 15:08:16 https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522retire-karbor%2522+status:open 15:08:35 #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522retire-karbor%2522+status:open 15:08:37 diablo_rojo: x/flame is not active so you can leave that open 15:08:59 ok cool, so we'll keep it as an action item for the next one to follow up on it 15:09:07 #action diablo_rojo complete retirement of karbor 15:09:11 Yep. Sorry! 15:09:14 diablo_rojo/ricolin reach out to SIGs/ML and start auditing states of SIGs 15:09:25 I did this 15:09:28 diablo_rojo, already make ML and etherpad out 15:09:30 and started an etherpad 15:09:31 (we have a topic for this later diablo_rojo ,wanna keep it for then?) 15:09:37 and ricolin :> 15:09:41 Sure? 15:09:44 Either works 15:10:02 okey cool, lets keep it for the agenda discussion topic :> 15:10:08 mnaser drop "Add Resolution of TC stance on the OpenStackClient" from agenda < done 15:10:35 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2021-SIG-Updates 15:10:39 mnaser reach out to tripleo + other high usage job teams re: usage < done, and started talking with the tripleo team about reducing their usage, i dont have a full update yet but we are progressing, i will try and ask a public share of the progress :) 15:11:07 the rest is a bunch of topic drops which are all done, so lets save some time :> 15:11:14 #topic Audit SIG list and chairs (diablo_rojo) 15:11:18 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2021-SIG-Updates 15:11:26 So there's that etherpad^ 15:11:28 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-January/019994.html 15:12:00 I sent it to the ML and have had a little pickup, but could use more opinions than largely just ricolin's and mine :) 15:12:17 tc-members: ^ please leave comments on that etherpd 15:12:53 may be we should get the SIG chari/co-chair opinion also if we can reach out to them. 15:13:02 * dansmith is here, btw 15:13:24 if not reachable then automatically that SIG need update either new chair or move the state 15:13:42 yes that si correct 15:14:44 #action tc-members review and leave comments on the etherpad for SIG updates 15:14:48 Thats kind of what I was hoping 15:14:50 we can indeed ask each SIG to update it's chair or status if they don't reply the ML or etherpad 15:14:56 I just didnt do direct outreach yet 15:15:28 yeah, ML has been ignored by leaders in many cases in past like PTL case:) 15:15:31 ok thats fair, well i think diablo_rojo and ricolin are pushing this pretty well :) 15:15:39 +1 15:17:18 next-up 15:17:20 #topic Gate performance and heavy job configs (dansmith) 15:17:24 ++ 15:17:34 oh sticky 15:17:52 things are a lot better today than they were a week ago, which I chalk up to the tripleo jobs being dropped from neutron, 15:18:05 and also fungi had some cloud capacity he was using for personal bitcoin mining that he gave back to the pool 15:18:10 yeah but still it is ling queue 15:18:13 hah 15:18:18 yeah, it's still very long, but better 15:18:32 we have a bunch of spurious job failures which are also not helping 15:19:05 I also cut 25% of the time off of a devstack run, 15:19:08 but gmann wasn't impressed 15:19:25 :), I am still bringing my VM up to test that. 15:19:44 but, I think progress is being made.. I still wouldn't rule out a syncup with the tripleo people 15:19:45 gmann: :) 15:19:51 dansmith: wow how was that done? 15:20:09 +1 on tripleo syncup 15:20:12 mnaser: trying to figure out how to answer that properly :) 15:20:34 mnaser: I have a patch up to parallelize devstack instead of do everything in serial which saves a lot of time 15:20:39 five minutes to stack for me locally 15:20:50 and there's a lot of parallelizing left that can be done to make it faster 15:20:57 neaaaat 15:21:05 mnaser: this is just stack.sh time, not the whole devstack tempest run of course 15:21:05 dansmith: hi, do we have any new data how much of time are neutron jobs using now? 15:21:26 slaweq: we could ask clarkb to regen that, but I think it probably takes several weeks to get a noticeable number 15:21:37 dansmith: That is cool. 15:21:38 dansmith: ok 15:21:40 dansmith, nice! 15:21:42 slaweq: I have taken you and your project off my dart board though :) 15:21:54 dansmith: good to hear that :) 15:21:57 thx 15:22:58 I will try and have an update from the tripleo team 15:23:21 Thanks for those patches. Have a link for them handy dansmith 15:23:21 +1, thanks 15:23:28 yeah, 15:23:35 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/771505/5 15:23:41 ^^ 15:23:41 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/771505 15:23:44 er, yeah 15:24:09 mnaser: gmann had them handy because he's busy reviewing them, I'm sure :P 15:24:13 I will test and update on this, mainly with fresh VM as gate does fresh VM always instead of stack/unstack 15:24:18 * dansmith stops laying it on so thick 15:24:24 dansmith: yeah :) 15:24:28 hehe 15:24:39 its one of the priority open tab for me 15:24:48 woohoo :) 15:27:06 cool 15:28:02 #action mnaser continue to sync with tripleo team to reduce usage 15:28:14 #action qa team to land parallelizing changes for devstack 15:28:18 #topic Dropping lower-constraints testing from all projects (gmann) 15:28:56 I am testing the l-c job with direct deps only which is what we have in requirements.txt 15:29:05 that is one of the proposal on ML 15:29:06 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/772780 15:29:39 I will update the results on ML after gate finsh 15:29:59 that is all form me on this. 15:30:33 may be fungi has something to update or share on this. 15:32:30 i guess they are afk :) 15:32:37 ok so we'll just update on that 15:32:40 #topic Open Reviews 15:32:50 yeah, we can continue this on ML and next week we can have more data 15:33:13 i didn't have anything new on the l-c discussion beyond what i posted to the ml, no 15:33:27 (not afk, just lots of discussions to juggle right now) 15:34:49 ok, we have a few reviews that we need to finish up 15:35:08 can i ask tc members to carve up sometime to go over reviews 15:35:46 two left for me as un-reviewed, i will do today(within meeting as we have time) 15:36:08 mnaser: Will make time for that. 15:36:09 any changes anyone wants to call out? 15:37:10 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/770860 15:37:28 Xena testing runtime, which replacing centos -> centos stream 15:37:38 something rdo community to notice 15:37:49 yoctozepto: ^^ 15:38:59 +1ed 15:39:27 any other open discussion items? 15:41:37 nothing from me 15:41:43 nothing from me 15:42:24 Nothing from me. 15:43:59 le no 15:44:04 gmann: thanks 15:45:48 #endmeeting