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15:00:14 <gmann> #topic Roll call
15:00:14 <jungleboyj> o/
15:00:15 <gmann> o/
15:00:17 <ricolin> o/
15:00:21 <dansmith> o/
15:01:00 <diablo_rojo> o.
15:01:00 <mnaser> hello
15:01:02 <diablo_rojo> o/.
15:01:04 <diablo_rojo> lol
15:01:17 <spotz> diablo_rojo:  you fishing?:)
15:01:23 <diablo_rojo> Perfect indication of my feelings about this morning.
15:01:28 <jungleboyj> He he he.
15:01:28 <gmann> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Agenda_Suggestions
15:01:30 <gmann> ^^ Today agenda
15:01:33 <gmann> let's atrt
15:01:34 <diablo_rojo> spotz, no, just finished a 6 mile run with hill sprints.
15:01:35 <gmann> start
15:01:47 <gmann> #topic Follow up on past action items
15:01:50 <yoctozepto> o/
15:02:03 <gmann> gmann to add election official assignments in next week meeting agenda
15:02:18 <gmann> I added that, we will disucss it later
15:02:20 <diablo_rojo> Its on the agenda so I'd say you nailed it.
15:02:27 <spotz> Yeah we meet on Tuesday:)
15:02:34 <gmann> #topic Gate health check (dansmith/yoctozepto)
15:02:54 <gmann> diablo_rojo: yeah, hope we have volutneer ready too
15:03:00 <dansmith> I saw some mention in the nova meeting of continued volume failures, but I can't say I experienced any recently
15:03:05 <diablo_rojo> spotz,  and jungleboyj I think
15:03:25 <spotz> I also mentioned it at a meeting yesterday:)
15:03:28 <gmann> dansmith: ok
15:03:35 <dansmith> I know the cinder team is looking at things now, after getting mad at me for bringing it up :)
15:03:37 <jungleboyj> Yep.
15:03:48 <jungleboyj> dansmith:  We weren't mad.
15:03:52 <mnaser> i'm happy to continue to volunteer to dig into issues
15:03:58 <dansmith> jungleboyj: you weren't :)
15:04:46 <fungi> in a more immediate note, we're in progress switching to a new zuul version for some security updates which are non-backwards-compatible around some former ways secrets were applied in jobs, and which disables setting a few variables which are mostly not used by projects from what i could see, but there are a few cases we'll need to clear up (some particularly for lingering cruft from
15:04:48 <fungi> python3 transitions)
15:05:01 <jungleboyj> mnaser:  Thank you again for the help.
15:05:13 <fungi> all that's to say, if you see some weird errors/failures over the next hour or two, it's possibly related
15:06:11 <gmann> fungi: does that impact any job definition or so ?
15:06:24 <gmann> I mean do we need to update them for anything
15:06:30 <fungi> gmann: some, but not widely-used
15:06:58 <fungi> we need to nail down some changes around secrets in our base jobs first and then i'll work on finding what needs updating in more leaf job defs
15:07:33 <jungleboyj> dansmith:  We are continuing to work up patches for other code paths where LVM might segfault.  So, expect to see things keep getting better.  *Fingers crossed*
15:07:41 <fungi> #link http://lists.zuul-ci.org/pipermail/zuul-announce/2021-June/000096.html Zuul 4.6.0 released [security]
15:07:43 <gmann> fungi: ok, I am sure you will update it on ML for those changes if needed or so.
15:07:51 <dansmith> \o/
15:07:55 <fungi> yep, though folks are welcome to help
15:08:25 <gmann> fungi:  sounds good. thanks
15:08:44 <gmann> dansmith: jungleboyj thanks for volume failure status
15:08:56 <jungleboyj> gmann: No problem.  :-)
15:09:10 <gmann> few project failing on sqlalchemy.4 compatibiltiy
15:09:31 <gmann> most of them are fixed but I saw tacker still in progress where they got more issue form functional test #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/796160
15:09:37 <gmann> sqlalchemy 1.4
15:10:10 <gmann> anything else on Gate health ?
15:11:17 <jungleboyj> Nothing from me.
15:11:28 <gmann> ok let's move then
15:11:29 <gmann> #topic Migration from 'Freenode' to 'OFTC' (gmann)
15:11:38 <gmann> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-irc-migration-to-oftc
15:11:45 <jungleboyj> What's Freenode?  ;-)
15:11:54 <gmann> :)
15:12:02 <gmann> few projects are still not updated their doc/wiki
15:12:23 <gmann> I will push the patches for remaining one and then ask to merge. anyone would like to help please do
15:12:40 <gmann> that's all on this
15:12:43 <gmann> #topic Xena Tracker
15:12:50 <gmann> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-xena-tracker
15:13:26 <gmann> I pushed a change in charter for vacant seat things #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/797912
15:13:51 <gmann> and contributors guide has also some progress where few projects merged the patches
15:14:05 <gmann> that is all update form my side
15:14:34 <gmann> we are close to m-2, I feel few of the things we should start which are helpful for projects team
15:15:04 <gmann> like ' Stable core team process change'  L42 in etherpad
15:15:30 <gmann> jungleboyj: mnaser please update if any progress or plan on this?
15:16:14 <jungleboyj> gmann:  Not yet.  Need to get with mnaser  to work on that.
15:16:14 <mnaser> gmann: no, i will try to find tiem to work on the iitial draft
15:16:27 <gmann> mnaser: jungleboyj nice, thanks
15:16:31 <jungleboyj> mnaser:  ++
15:16:51 <gmann> Next one I feel is 'Review the tags for usefulness and cleanup.' L28
15:17:25 <gmann> yoctozepto: jungleboyj : ^^ this can be good cleanup i think before project or TC spend time on tag applications
15:17:33 <gmann> though there are not so many now a days
15:17:55 <jungleboyj> Yeah.
15:18:36 <jungleboyj> I will make some time to look at the tags and make some proposals.
15:18:50 <gmann> , thanks again jungleboyj
15:18:58 <jungleboyj> :-)
15:19:05 <gmann> for rest of the other items, I would like to request each assignee to start/finish those as per their availability.
15:19:28 <gmann> moving next
15:19:30 <gmann> #topic Governance non-active repos retirement & cleanup
15:19:52 <gmann> I started the work on this and most of patches are merged.
15:20:21 <gmann> and I need help form mnaser and fungi to review these pending one 1. this series #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/797778/1
15:21:03 <gmann> 2. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/797745
15:21:28 <gmann> 3. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/797781
15:21:53 <mnaser> ill work on those
15:22:05 <gmann> mnaser: thanks
15:22:42 <gmann> I have proposed the governance patche also for the retirement but that needs to wait until project-config changes are merged
15:22:51 <gmann> #topic Election official assignments
15:23:02 <gmann> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-June/023060.html
15:23:23 <gmann> diablo_rojo: go ahead
15:24:47 <gmann> she might be busy in another meeting i think
15:25:02 <gmann> I think we have two volunteer here spotz and jungleboyj
15:25:20 <jungleboyj> Correct.  Going to at least learn the ropes.
15:25:28 <gmann> spotz: will be eligible for election official for next election
15:25:46 <gmann> spotz: diablo_rojo do we need one more volunteer for next election or is it fine?
15:25:49 <gmann> jungleboyj: ++
15:25:52 <spotz> I also shared the meeting information to folks in a meeting yesterday. Also as a reminder that elections were coming up
15:26:45 <gmann> spotz: nice, I will check the time period also which is R-3 to R-6 I think but I will confirm on charter and let you know
15:27:09 <gmann> or once you have election dates proposal up then we can review there itself
15:27:49 <gmann> #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/charter.html#election-for-ptl-seats
15:27:49 <spotz> or UC we used to have 2 officials but I think fungi has been soloing it
15:28:01 <diablo_rojo> Sorry. Too many things at once.
15:28:14 <gmann> yeah its anytime between from R-6 to R-3
15:28:16 <diablo_rojo> Yeah I will walk through the scripts and readme.
15:28:41 <diablo_rojo> I ran the scripts just to make sure we are on track and so long as we get started in July we should be fine.
15:28:56 <jungleboyj> ++
15:29:04 <gmann> spotz: ok, I think we have Ian Y. Choi also available for review?
15:29:15 <diablo_rojo> gmann, yep he is still an election official as well
15:29:16 <gmann> if not then yes we need one more member to help
15:29:22 <gmann> diablo_rojo: k
15:29:24 <diablo_rojo> but will be the only one left when I duck out this time
15:29:28 <diablo_rojo> three is better
15:29:38 <gmann> diablo_rojo: and spotz right
15:29:39 <spotz> Sweet
15:29:39 <diablo_rojo> so having both spotz  and jungleboyj to help ianychoi would be better
15:29:52 <gmann> nice
15:30:01 <diablo_rojo> Ian is great to help with tz coverage
15:30:09 <gmann> yeah
15:30:36 <gmann> I think we are in good position here
15:30:43 <gmann> anything else on this topic ?
15:31:32 <gmann> thanks diablo_rojo spotz jungleboyj to handle it
15:31:37 <gmann> #topic Open Reviews
15:31:49 <gmann> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open
15:32:02 <gmann> let's review the open one
15:32:27 <opendevreview> Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Charter change to handle the vacant seat situation  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/797912
15:32:49 <gmann> dansmith: jungleboyj mnaser ^^ updated, pleas re-vote
15:32:51 <gmann> please
15:33:07 <dansmith> gmann: done
15:33:12 <mnaser> ^
15:33:30 <gmann> thanks
15:33:45 <gmann> other are 'project-update' so they are fine i think
15:33:53 <jungleboyj> Looks good.
15:33:55 <gmann> that's all I have for today.
15:34:01 <gmann> anything else to discuss?
15:34:25 <diablo_rojo> Nothing from me.
15:34:45 <jungleboyj> Nothing from me.
15:34:49 <gmann> ok
15:34:54 <gmann> thanks all for joining.
15:34:56 <gmann> #endmeeting