15:00:09 #startmeeting tc 15:00:09 Meeting started Thu Jul 22 15:00:09 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. 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Monday 15-17 UTC for TC+PTL 2. Thursday 13-17 UTC 3. Friday 13-17UTC 15:10:27 #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/8tum5yl1bx43 15:10:38 filled the PTG survey also 15:11:03 as next step, let's start filling the topics in etherpad #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-yoga-ptg 15:11:22 ++ Thank you gmann 15:11:29 Yes thank you! 15:11:34 +2 15:11:35 anything else on PTG or slot conflict though we might not be able to resolve all ? 15:12:26 You took the sloot I normally grab for D&I so I just took the slot before the TC on Monday 15:13:26 If I was really motivated I could start building my ptg schedule already lol 15:13:27 ah, Monday 15-17 is most PTL/TC available time 15:13:59 Yeah. 15:13:59 about the PTG etherpad and project leaders interaction 15:14:00 spotz: thanks for adjustment , we did reschedule same for QA 15:14:06 belmoreira: yeah 15:14:43 it's a great idea, but shouldn't we involve also the SIG chairs? and maybe other members of the user community? 15:15:05 considering that the TC also includes the old UC 15:15:29 belmoreira: +1 I mentioned project leaders but we can reword that so that SIG leads and other member can also join 15:15:53 main motive is PTL + leaders(in DPL case) + SIG leads also 15:16:07 +1 15:16:09 may be "community leaders" can be good term ? 15:16:28 +1 to community leaders 15:16:34 +1 15:16:47 +1 15:16:47 also, allows voices of those who have stepped back to incubate other leaders to be able to join the fray 15:16:52 yes, "community leaders" looks good 15:16:53 +1 15:16:56 yeah, getting some sig chairs involved would be good too (speaking as a sig chair and person active in multiple sigs) 15:16:58 I think community leaders sounds good 15:18:32 ok, I will change that and also will mention in ML while reminding about it 15:18:44 thanks belmoreira for pointing out 15:19:40 if nothing else on PTG let's move? 15:20:23 #topic Xena Tracker 15:20:32 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-xena-tracker 15:20:58 I did not progress on contributor guide goal and many of project merged and it is close to complete 15:21:08 sorry, *I did progress 15:21:19 any updates form any other member on their item? 15:21:47 No updates from me. Sorry. 15:22:16 I've been working on livestreaming and blogging places for the PTLs, did we ever get a list ofo emails? 15:23:41 spotz: you can get via this script https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/tools/list_ptls.py with --email 15:24:49 No updates from me/ 15:25:33 none here 15:25:46 let's work on your assigned itemas we are close to Xena release 15:25:56 #link Open Reviews 15:26:07 #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open 15:26:39 please review #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/800471 15:27:01 and this need formal vote #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/799927 15:27:20 yoctozepto: i replied on your comment of adding centos9, is that fine? 15:27:49 I am not sure when it will be released to targeting now seems not so good to me. if we know exact date then we can? 15:28:30 gmann: I guess we can amend that later 15:29:01 yoctozepto: yes, we can. I think we did for centos to centyos stream case also 15:29:15 From the RDO meetings we’ll most likely hold Xenia for it if it’s not too long. We will have for Yoga 15:29:24 mhm 15:30:07 gmann: I wonder about the retirement patches of deprecated repos 15:30:16 sometimes they add the current date 15:30:23 sometimes the date of deprecation 15:30:34 yoctozepto: current date they add when they move from deprecated to retire 15:31:00 compare https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/800471 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/800148 15:31:03 only case was neutron-lbaas which was actually retired but not recorded properly so i added with date when it wa actually retired 15:31:09 ah 15:31:12 that makes sense 15:31:17 that was confusing 15:31:43 yeah neutron-lbaas was confusion until I updated readme as per legacy-validation script 15:32:10 otherwise in normal case if project retiring directly or from deprecated to retire we should record currrent date 15:32:37 ++ 15:33:18 spotz_: delayed response, but also the ptl and dpl e-mail addresses are listed in the projects.yaml file in governance 15:34:20 Thanks fungi:) 15:34:40 yeah, if you need complete list then script is better unless need individual PTL which can be done from proejcts.yaml 15:35:05 also displayed in the project detail pages on governance.o.o based on that 15:35:44 anything else for today to discuss ? 15:37:00 not from me :-) 15:37:14 let's close then, thanks everyone for joining 15:37:17 #endmeeting