15:00:15 #startmeeting tc 15:00:15 Meeting started Thu Aug 18 15:00:15 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:15 The meeting name has been set to 'tc' 15:00:22 #topic Roll call 15:00:24 o/ 15:00:34 o/ 15:00:40 oj <-- simultaneously on a call 15:00:41 o/ 15:00:54 Oh, in that case. 15:00:56 oj 15:01:10 All I see is orange juice. 15:01:18 :) 15:01:27 o/ 15:01:32 *Laughing* 15:01:34 in polish "oj" means something like "ups" 15:01:44 oj is a head and a headset 15:01:54 o/ 15:02:12 gmann will not be on the meeting today 15:02:28 dansmith: sure, I can see it, but still... orange juice. 15:02:43 I'm not sure about knikolla and arne_wiebalck 15:02:57 o/ 15:03:21 ok, let's start 15:03:23 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee 15:03:29 this is agenda for today 15:03:36 dansmith: did you just invent this? 15:03:37 #topic Follow up on past action items 15:03:55 we have two items on the list: 15:03:57 gmann to fill PTG survey and team signup for TC discussions 15:04:27 as gmann is not here today, I think we can move it to the next week to not forget 15:04:42 ++ 15:04:47 #action gmann to fill PTG survey and team signup for TC discussions 15:04:55 and second one: 15:05:02 spotz to check with operators about what format they want in virtual PTG. options: 1. join ops hours in the project PTG room and meet/discuss with developer 2. book ops slot in same room/day and ask developer to come to that room and discuss the things 15:06:45 I have the tweet ready to go but got distributed Devconf as I want to send it out on a Monday 15:06:46 o/ 15:07:10 Distracted:) 15:07:19 Ah, that makes more sense. :-) 15:07:25 yeah 15:07:28 * knikolla at devconf too 15:07:57 spotz: do You want to have same action item for next week? 15:07:58 Oh knikolla let’s meet up! 15:08:03 to not forget about it 15:08:26 Yes please, I don’t want to post it going into a weekend 15:08:37 #action spotz to check with operators about what format they want in virtual PTG. options: 1. join ops hours in the project PTG room and meet/discuss with developer 2. book ops slot in same room/day and ask developer to come to that room and discuss the things 15:08:38 spotz[m]: yes!!! 15:08:43 ++ 15:08:45 spotz: thx :) 15:09:23 ok, that were all action items from last week 15:09:29 let's move on to the next topic 15:09:30 #topic Gate health check 15:09:42 Short list :) 15:09:56 no major gate health issues that I know of 15:10:13 things have been pretty stable lately, AFAICT, but I don't have a large sample size of late 15:10:19 THat is good news. 15:10:25 dansmith: I agree 15:10:30 that's my observation too 15:10:41 regarding bare rechecks 15:10:58 I prepared new data in the etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/recheck-weekly-summary 15:11:14 There have been some issues with ansible + ssh we've noticed. This affects both nested ssh run by jobs and the job running ansible as well. 15:11:15 and I have some teams which I will be reaching out to in next days 15:11:54 I think it is related to ssh scanning/brute forcing filling up available slots for unauthenticated ssh connections on the sshd. We updated our image configs yesterday which will take a day or so to roll out 15:13:48 thx clarkb for the update 15:16:01 if there is nothing more about gate health, I think we can move on 15:16:09 #topic 2023.1 cycle PTG Planning 15:16:23 in the meeting agenda I see point: 15:16:26 Encourage projects to schedule 'operator hours' as a separate slot in PTG(avoiding conflicts among other projects 'operator hours') 15:16:31 which is probably added by gmann 15:16:52 but I have no other context about it :) 15:16:54 Which we dont have more clarity on yet since the poll didnt go out yet 15:17:21 ahh, ok 15:17:34 (thats my guess at the context anyway) 15:17:41 so it's related to the pool which spotz is going to send, right? 15:17:46 well, we could schedule the times ... i think the location is what the poll is for 15:18:01 *poll 15:18:36 slaweq: that was my guess 15:18:56 rosmaita: I guess? but if they want host things on their time, they might want to set the schedule 15:19:53 ok, but it looks like that will set us up for scheduling conflicts all over the place 15:20:38 i'm not volunteering to schedule, so i will just shut up at this point 15:20:44 LOL 15:21:04 I think it needs to happen ASAP either way 15:21:09 ++ 15:21:35 Actual scheduling via the bot wont begin till after the team list announcement which will be Aug 30th 15:22:07 Since the survey closes the 26th of Aug 15:22:48 what are we going to use for signing up for time slots. ethercalc? 15:22:50 shouldn't it be on the projects' PTLs to schedule such session for operators? 15:23:13 knikolla: it'll actually all be done via the bot since ethercalc has been spun down by the opendev team 15:23:32 (the ptg scheduling was the only consistent use of ethercalc) 15:23:54 diablo_rojo: ah, got it, thank you! 15:24:04 slaweq: yes? but I think it might be good for the TC to help make sure there arent conflicts? 15:24:39 diablo_rojo: sure, I agree that TC can help with that 15:24:41 I thought we suggested a couple ops slots per day that PTLs choose for their project so that there are zero overlaps? 15:24:59 the TC can certainly help by defining some of those slots and asking PTLs to pick one 15:25:17 dansmith: yes? 15:25:44 okay I'm not sure what the problem is, but I'm distracted with my oj 15:26:07 dansmith: at least scurvy wont be a problem 15:26:16 lol 15:26:25 dansmith: I dont think there is a problem :) Just waiting to hear about what the operators want to do 15:26:31 okay 15:27:16 I guess if someone wants to build a schedule of availability and then get PTLs to sign up that would be fine- the difficulty comes when we are assuming the ops availability 15:27:47 Personally I think Monday or Tuesday would be good so that feedback can be used the rest of the week 15:28:05 i wonder if we can have the ops picks their availability slots (via some form of doodle poll, etc) and then have the ptls sign up on the slots that ops decide for availability 15:28:14 But I dont want to make assumptions on their schedules, but perhaps I am too good at being the devils advocate :) 15:28:59 knikolla: that could work; that would be another thing we would need to get an answer out of them on. 15:30:12 good, so we have another action item. 15:30:50 so who wants to prepare such doodle? 15:31:33 * diablo_rojo looks at knikolla as it was his idea :D 15:31:38 i can try 15:31:44 thx knikolla :) 15:31:46 can spotz include it in her current poll? 15:31:50 Happy to review for you 15:32:11 thanks diablo_rojo :) 15:32:21 #action knikolla to make doodle for ops to pick their availability slots during the PTG 15:32:37 rosmaita: good question. one email is better than two. I can sync up with spotz[m] 15:32:48 ++ 15:32:58 \o/ 15:33:02 +1 15:33:09 ++ 15:33:16 rosmaita: Did good today! 15:33:33 it's about time 15:33:45 :) 15:33:49 I think spotz was going to do it via twitter not an email, but I could be wrong. 15:34:04 +2 1 email is better than 2 though 15:34:06 wondering if the thanks bot still works 15:35:01 #thanks rosmaita for a helpful suggestion 15:35:02 knikolla: Added your thanks to Thanks page (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Thanks) 15:35:11 Oh cool :) 15:35:12 it does! 15:35:29 I didn't know that bot 15:35:40 #thanks knikolla for showing me thanks bot :) 15:35:42 slaweq: Added your thanks to Thanks page (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Thanks) 15:35:49 :-) 15:36:08 I think we can move on to the next topic now 15:36:10 :) 15:36:11 #topic Open Reviews 15:36:18 #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open 15:36:39 there are 4 open reviews on the list 15:36:47 and IMO https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/851859 is ready for review 15:36:52 so please check it 15:37:26 that's all from the agenda for today's meeting 15:37:36 do You have anything else to discuss today? 15:37:49 Register for the PTG! 15:37:54 Its free now afterall 15:38:10 https://openinfra-ptg.eventbrite.com/ 15:38:14 thx for reminder diablo_rojo 15:38:16 I will do it today 15:38:25 * jungleboyj has 15:38:34 I’m doing a tweet but can do an email 15:38:42 * diablo_rojo gives gold star to jungleboyj 15:38:48 \o/ 15:38:48 * diablo_rojo gets one ready for slaweq 15:38:57 :) 15:39:03 * jungleboyj needs more flair! 15:39:22 jungleboyj: always :) 15:39:50 Thats all I had :) 15:40:34 * slaweq already registerd now :) 15:40:47 * diablo_rojo gives slaweq his gold star 15:40:55 \o/ 15:41:10 so I can give You few minutes back today 15:41:16 thx for attending the meeting 15:41:22 #endmeeting