#openstack-meeting: telcowg

Meeting summary

1. roll call (sgordon_, 22:00:32)
   
2. use cases (sgordon_, 22:01:33)
   1. http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2014/ (sgordon_, 22:02:03)
   2. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TelcoWorkingGroup/UseCases (sgordon_, 22:04:33)
   3. http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV001v010101p.pdf (sgordon_, 22:11:41)
   4. "ijw> Look - when it comes down to it a use case really needs to be described by either (a) a vendor with a widget who for whatever reason has some difficulty running it on stock openstack or (b) a telco who has a widget from somewhere and wants to describe what they would *like* to do with it rather than what's possible today" (sgordon_, 22:15:25)
   5. Start with "I want" use cases on the wiki and let people argue the implementation at the bottom or at least pass comment in an etherpad (sgordon_, 22:18:31)
   6. ACTION: sgordon to add a section to top of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TelcoWorkingGroup/UseCases with guidance from this discussion on how to frame use cases (sgordon_, 22:24:04)
   7. ACTION: jrakerevelant to document desire to integrate physical interfaces 'like eNode Bs' and current approaches as a use case (sgordon_, 22:25:28)
   8. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/cloud-edge-networking (ijw, 22:26:48)
   9. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/cloud-edge-networking (sgordon_, 22:26:59)
   10. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136555/ (ijw, 22:27:21)
   11. ACTION: sgordon to issue call for use cases via M/L once UseCases page updated (sgordon_, 22:28:02)
   
   
3. vlan trunking redux (sgordon_, 22:29:37)
   1. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/nfv-vlan-trunks (ijw, 22:29:39)
   2. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/nfv-vlan-trunks (sgordon_, 22:29:45)
   3. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vlan-aware-vms (ijw, 22:30:06)
   4. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vlan-aware-vms (sgordon_, 22:30:13)
   5. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136554/ (sgordon_, 22:32:31)
   6. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94612/ (sgordon_, 22:33:47)
   7. specs are up for review and need concerted review bandwidth and turnarounds (sgordon_, 22:35:08)
   8. ACTION: sgordon to ask maru about -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94612/ (sgordon_, 22:35:16)
   9. ijw working on spec for MTU specification and discovery (sgordon_, 22:36:28)
   10. use cases caveats need to be added around ability of OpenStack CI to measure certain performance rate requirements etc. (sgordon_, 22:39:19)
   11. http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2014-11/msg00602.html is the thread for testing (ijw, 22:41:17)
   12. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-November/050469.html (sgordon_, 22:41:41)
   13. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128825/ (sgordon_, 22:43:09)
   14. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-November/051561.html (sgordon_, 22:49:33)
   15. PXE, much confusion, need documented use case (sgordon_, 22:54:00)
   16. https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=TelcoWorkingGroup/Glossary&action=edit&redlink=1 (sgordon_, 22:54:56)
   
   
4. orchestration (sgordon_, 22:55:14)
   1. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-November/051473.html (sgordon_, 22:55:28)
   2. defining what NFV orchestration really means in an openstack-specific way continues to be a challenge :) (sgordon_, 23:01:11)
   3. "ijw> split the definition into 'internal' and 'external' orchestration, for want of a better word. One provides a cloud API to something that is not itself cloudy (a widget, a server) and one looks after applications" (sgordon_, 23:02:33)

Action items

1. sgordon to add a section to top of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TelcoWorkingGroup/UseCases with guidance from this discussion on how to frame use cases
2. jrakerevelant to document desire to integrate physical interfaces 'like eNode Bs' and current approaches as a use case
3. sgordon to issue call for use cases via M/L once UseCases page updated
4. sgordon to ask maru about -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94612/

Action items, by person

1. jrakerevelant
   1. jrakerevelant to document desire to integrate physical interfaces 'like eNode Bs' and current approaches as a use case
2. openstack
   1. sgordon to add a section to top of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TelcoWorkingGroup/UseCases with guidance from this discussion on how to frame use cases
   2. sgordon to ask maru about -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94612/

People present (lines said)

1. sgordon_ (178)
2. ijw (81)
3. aveiga (67)
4. jrakerevelant (41)
5. adrian-hoban__ (12)
6. ian_ott (5)
7. openstack (4)
8. amitry (3)
9. gokrokve (1)
10. clarkb (1)
11. smazziotta (1)
12. dgollub1 (1)