08:00:43 <anteaya> #startmeeting third-party 08:00:45 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Nov 3 08:00:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 08:00:46 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 08:00:48 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' 08:00:50 <anteaya> hello 08:01:32 <lennyb_> anteaya: Hi 08:01:43 <anteaya> hey lennyb_ 08:01:47 <anteaya> how are you today? 08:02:14 <lennyb_> hard to say yet, it's still morning 08:02:18 <lennyb_> how are you? 08:02:22 <anteaya> good thanks 08:02:32 <anteaya> jet lag made getting up at 3am easy today 08:02:48 <anteaya> did you make any progress updating your wikipage? 08:03:12 <lennyb_> anteaya: yes, I've updated it after our meeting. 08:03:20 <anteaya> wonderful 08:03:23 <anteaya> link? 08:03:58 <lennyb_> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Mellanox_CI 08:04:43 <anteaya> thank you 08:05:04 <anteaya> you understood the salient point, communicating the reuse of the node 08:05:05 <lennyb_> how was Tokia city? I've never been to Japan 08:05:09 <anteaya> thank you 08:05:18 <anteaya> well for me it was overwhelming 08:05:32 <anteaya> but I doubt most people had a similar experience to mine 08:05:37 <anteaya> and I don't eat fish 08:05:37 <lennyb_> anteaya: what do you mean by 'salient point' ? 08:05:50 <anteaya> the important part of our conversation last meeting 08:06:00 <anteaya> the fact the node is being reused 08:06:03 <anteaya> so thank you 08:06:09 <lennyb_> anteaya: I am not sure now 08:06:18 <anteaya> what part are you not sure about? 08:06:44 <anteaya> I was offering you a compliment 08:07:21 <lennyb_> I guess I missed it :). 08:07:35 <anteaya> no worries 08:07:37 <anteaya> :) 08:07:49 <anteaya> so japanese food has a lot of fish in it 08:07:53 <anteaya> and fish broth 08:08:01 <anteaya> so I ate Indian food all week 08:08:03 <anteaya> :) 08:08:11 <anteaya> but it is really really lovely 08:08:18 <lennyb_> :) it's in the sea, they have to eat sea food :) 08:08:20 <anteaya> very calm 08:08:25 <anteaya> exactly 08:08:36 <anteaya> makes perfect sense 08:09:11 <anteaya> tokyo has one of the lowest crime rates in the world I am told 08:09:25 <anteaya> I felt totally safe walking around by myself anywhere in the city 08:09:29 <anteaya> it was marvelous 08:09:34 <lennyb_> I am sorry I've missed this summit. 08:09:44 <anteaya> me too 08:09:50 <anteaya> it would have been nice to see you 08:10:02 <anteaya> do you think you might be able to make it to Austin in the spring? 08:10:17 <lennyb_> you too....maybe next summit. 08:10:22 <anteaya> sorry, Austin in April 08:10:38 <anteaya> hopefully you can come to Texas 08:11:36 <lennyb_> btw, I have nothing, except Tokio that I've missed, to discuss today, and I guess it's a late night at your place 08:12:03 <anteaya> it is okay I am up 08:12:20 <anteaya> had to have something to eat to satisfy the jet lag 08:12:34 <anteaya> been awake for about 2 hours before the meeting 08:14:12 * lennyb_ looking for link 08:15:48 <lennyb_> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1484588 08:15:48 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1484588 in Glance "glance startup gives ERROR: Could not bind to 0.0.0.0:9292 after trying for 30 seconds on stable-kilo after attempting service restart" [Undecided,Confirmed] 08:16:54 <anteaya> lennyb_: have you hit this bug? 08:16:56 <lennyb_> anteaya: .... recalled that there was somthing I wanted to ask. There is a glance issue that we see quite often, but cant reproduce it 08:17:06 <anteaya> interesting 08:17:13 <anteaya> what is happening when you see it? 08:17:54 <lennyb_> stack fails, but if I run this command manually, it passes. 08:18:33 <lennyb_> looks like glance needs more time for starting 08:18:47 <anteaya> interesting 08:18:53 <anteaya> hmmmmm 08:19:16 <anteaya> flaper87: are you awake yet? 08:19:51 <anteaya> flaper87: lennyb_ is seeing a glance bug, I was wondering if perhaps you might be awake and be able to share some input 08:20:41 <lennyb_> it's might be related to the fact that we are reusing the node, so probably some of the processes sometimes not clearly exit even after ./clean.sh 08:21:21 <anteaya> that is possilble yes 08:21:37 <lennyb_> #link http://10.209.32.40:8080/job/Neutron-ML2-Sriov/3727/console 08:22:25 <lennyb_> #paste http://paste.openstack.org/show/477833/ 08:22:57 <anteaya> I can't seem to access those logs 08:23:02 <lennyb_> and something similar that started to happen few days ago and most likely related to this as well. I had no time to debug it yet 08:23:12 <anteaya> they aren't loading for me 08:23:56 <anteaya> the paste appears to be giving me an error that is different than the glance error 08:24:01 <lennyb_> #link http://144.76.193.39/ci-artifacts/223226/8/Neutron-ML2-Sriov/logs/stack.sh.log.gz 08:24:07 <lennyb_> sorry, wrong jenkins 08:24:48 <anteaya> ah okay now I can see those logs 08:24:55 <anteaya> what should I be looking for in the logs? 08:25:07 <lennyb_> error in the end of file 08:25:23 <anteaya> Could not determine a suitable URL for the plugin 08:25:26 <anteaya> that one? 08:25:52 <lennyb_> yeap 08:26:06 * lennyb_ looking for glance log 08:26:30 <anteaya> okay so are you saying the Could not determine a suitable URL for the plugin error is related to the glance error? 08:26:43 <anteaya> or are they two seperate errors? 08:27:14 <lennyb_> anteaya: sorry. they are 2 separate errors. 08:27:20 <lennyb_> #link http://144.76.193.39/ci-artifacts/239721/1/Neutron-ML2-MLNX/console.html.gz 08:27:25 <lennyb_> glance issue 08:27:26 <anteaya> ah okay 08:28:01 <lennyb_> #pASTE 08:28:07 <lennyb_> #paste http://paste.openstack.org/show/477834/ 08:29:25 <anteaya> you say you see this error but can't reproduce it 08:29:35 <anteaya> the glance error 08:30:33 <lennyb_> yes, it's not reproducible easily, but it happen quite a lot. I have some time now, so I will try to debug/reproduce it 08:30:56 <anteaya> okay but it happens when you reinstall devstack? 08:31:13 <anteaya> do you remove devstack when you finish and reclone it? 08:31:49 <lennyb_> yes, but not always. yes I run ./clean.sh; sudo rm -rf /opt/stack; and even kill all python procs after it 08:31:58 <anteaya> okay 08:32:17 <anteaya> devstack was never meant to be brought up and down, it was meant to be used once and destroyed 08:32:45 <anteaya> actually not being able to restart devstack is a feature since it prevents folks from using devstack in deployment 08:33:00 <anteaya> can you remove devstack at the end of every test run and reclone it? 08:33:59 <lennyb_> yes, I am removing and reclone it, by the way from what I saw, reclone only removes *.pyo, *.pyc files 08:34:55 <anteaya> tell me again why you need to reuse the node 08:35:04 <anteaya> rather than create a new node for each test 08:35:34 <lennyb_> a HW configuration and OS installation is something that takes time and efford 08:36:11 <anteaya> okay how much time? 08:36:40 <lennyb_> I guess with a proper scripts it will take 30min 08:37:38 <anteaya> that doesn't seem like too much time to me 08:37:47 <anteaya> is there some other part I don't understand? 08:40:00 <lennyb_> our tests take from 30-50mins, and we are triggered by neutron, nova, tempest, cinder and internal developments, so adding additional 30mins... I need to make some calculations again 08:40:27 <anteaya> okay 08:40:37 <anteaya> well I appreciate you talking to me about this 08:40:50 <anteaya> but you are using devstack in a way it was never designed to be used in 08:41:04 <anteaya> so that may be the source of the issue 08:41:18 <anteaya> I want to help you 08:41:37 <anteaya> to me using devstack the way it was meant to be used seems like the best direction 08:41:42 <lennyb_> thanks, btw, I am hitting more bugs this way :) 08:41:46 <anteaya> yeah 08:42:05 <anteaya> fixing your own bugs is wonderful 08:42:32 <anteaya> hitting devstack bugs that may not be fixed because devstack isnt' meant to be used like this seems like a waste of your time 08:42:52 <lennyb_> actually I was talking about glance:). ok I will try to debug this issue and update you if/when I will find smthing 08:42:58 <anteaya> sure 08:43:18 <anteaya> and yes the glance bug might be due to how you are reusing devstack 08:43:27 <anteaya> and if so, it may not be fixed 08:43:33 <lennyb_> i see 08:43:47 <anteaya> just wanted to share that with you as a possiblity 08:44:05 <anteaya> I don't know, but before you but a lot of time into it 08:44:20 <anteaya> when folks find bugs restarting devstack we tell them not to 08:44:27 <anteaya> but to use a fresh devstack 08:45:18 <flaper87> anteaya: here now, reading the backlog. 08:45:19 <lennyb_> ok, but as I said I am not restarting devstack. I clean and reinstall it each time. But I see your point. Thanks you. 08:45:25 <anteaya> flaper87: thank you 08:46:38 <lennyb_> anteaya: irc question, if I may, what tools are you using to be notified when you are offline or not not here? 08:47:12 <anteaya> ah I use weechat in a vm 08:47:37 <anteaya> and ssh into it, so weechat is connected regardless of whether my laptop is powered on or off 08:47:38 <lennyb_> thanks, I will check it 08:47:48 <anteaya> and when I am offline I recieve no notifications 08:48:10 <anteaya> and when I am online and someone uses my nick the channel name and buffer number are highlighted 08:48:30 <anteaya> some people use their phone to recieve notifications from irc, I don't do that 08:48:50 <lennyb_> phone seems like a nice idea, I will check it as well 08:49:02 <anteaya> sure it depends on how you like to interact 08:49:10 <anteaya> when I am offline I need my private time 08:49:11 <bkero> I can't count the amount of times I have done that, then had to turn it off again in a few days. :) 08:49:28 <anteaya> bkero: turn what off, the phone notifications? 08:50:17 <bkero> yeah 08:50:21 <lennyb_> I do want to know when someone uses my name, regardless if I am on/off line or in front of the channel 08:50:34 <bkero> anteaya: I get too many pings :) 08:50:39 <anteaya> lennyb_: then that is an option open to you 08:50:50 <anteaya> bkero: it is what happens when you are popular 08:50:50 <bkero> It was doing about 200+ notifications per day 08:51:01 <bkero> and I could definitely tell when Google's cloud messaging would have a delay (often). 08:51:03 <anteaya> bkero: wow, do you fix bugs or something 08:51:22 <bkero> anteaya: Haha, don't ask me to fix your bugs. :P 08:52:00 <lennyb_> bkero: any android app recommendations ? 08:52:17 <anteaya> flaper87: any feedback from backscroll? 08:52:41 <lennyb_> bkero: I promise not to ping you often :) 08:53:36 <flaper87> anteaya: not yet, sorry! But I will provide it :) lennyb_ feel free to ping me for more feedback 08:53:45 <flaper87> I see Stuart has commented on the bug already 08:53:52 <flaper87> I'll read in more detail 08:53:54 <anteaya> flaper87: well do you feel it is a glance bug? 08:54:06 <bkero> lennyb_: NotifyMyAndroid 08:54:16 <bkero> There are plugins to use it from weechat, irssi, and likely znc. 08:54:23 <flaper87> anteaya: I don't think it is 08:54:33 <anteaya> flaper87: okay that helps, thank you 08:54:48 <flaper87> np, I'll dig more into this 08:54:51 <anteaya> lennyb_: so check back on that bug report and with flaper87 08:54:54 <anteaya> flaper87: thank you 08:55:26 <lennyb_> flaper87,anteaya,breko: thanks 08:55:43 <anteaya> lennyb_: thanks for mentioning what you are experiencing 08:55:57 <anteaya> we have 5 more mintues left 08:56:04 <anteaya> anything more to say here? 08:57:06 <anteaya> okay I will wrap up 08:57:16 <anteaya> thanks all for your kind attendance and participation 08:57:21 <anteaya> see you next week 08:57:24 <anteaya> #endmeeting