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15:00:13 <lennyb> Hello everybody
15:00:20 <mmedvede> o/
15:00:38 <lennyb> mmedvede, how are you nowdays?
15:01:25 <mmedvede> same, contemplating zuul v3 and the amount of work the switch would require
15:01:27 <lennyb> are you working with dockers? I am thinking about ways to speed up our CI
15:01:41 <mmedvede> no, not doing anything with docker or containers
15:02:05 <mmedvede> it is not equivalent to VMs
15:02:09 <mmedvede> probably the main reason
15:03:00 <lennyb> we are working with physical servers and it takes about 30min for devstack to be up
15:03:21 <lennyb> and more then 1h for overall job
15:03:29 <lennyb> too long
15:04:19 <lennyb> I am even added a local repo on local host to save git clone, but it saves too little
15:05:11 <mmedvede> are you trying to the entire devstack inside one container, or just deploy openstack services contenirized?
15:06:13 <lennyb> mmedeve, I am not doing any of the above yet. I am thinking what can be done
15:07:32 <lennyb> any recommendations?
15:11:12 <mmedvede> lennyb: not really. My personal opinion is containers are overhyped still and come with their own set of worms
15:12:07 <lennyb> mmedvede, how about pre-running stack and reinstalling and restarting only relevant projects/services?
15:12:46 <mmedvede> it depends what you want to be testing. It is hard to get a clean environment if you did prerun things
15:13:51 <mmedvede> how do you know what is relevant? Unless you start clean, there is always possibility of some stray system or pip package messing things up
15:14:48 <mmedvede> I guess with containers you can get openstack services isolated
15:15:11 <mmedvede> but you would need to update relevant containers to get the right stuff tested each time
15:15:30 <lennyb> mmedvede. I can check branch. I can run unstack/stack with reclone=no it might save saome time
15:16:03 <mmedvede> yes, but you have to keep in mind that it is not clean and might not give the same result
15:16:15 <lennyb> but generally you are correct, there can and will be :( a mess
15:16:19 <mmedvede> devstack messes a lot of thing up
15:17:02 <lennyb> yeah.... need to think about other ways
15:17:20 <mmedvede> lennyb: if you want to deploy with containers, probably a good start is to check one of the container projects
15:17:30 <mmedvede> they probably do testing somehow
15:17:32 <lennyb> mmedvede, thanks, I will check it
15:17:57 <lennyb> mmedvede, anything you would like to ask/share ?
15:18:04 <mmedvede> no
15:18:43 <lennyb> I have nothing else either.  See you next week. Thanks for showing up
15:18:49 <mmedvede> thanks
15:19:06 <lennyb> #endmeeting