17:00:54 #startmeeting training-guides 17:00:55 Meeting started Mon Mar 16 17:00:54 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:56 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:59 The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' 17:01:19 roll call 17:02:00 yo 17:02:52 reed: can we get an update on the sphinx/landslide teacher feedback 17:02:57 agenda 17:03:01 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/training-guides 17:03:07 hi sarob 17:03:15 reed: heloo 17:03:25 \o/ 17:04:26 reed: whatz up 17:04:35 nobody has strong opinions it seems, so I would suggest to just use hiero: it's simple to implement, requires no bash script 17:05:09 reed: do we have pub automation? 17:05:37 reed: i guess its already in use for the dev docs 17:05:38 there was another suggestion to use reveal.js to render the RST on the fly (no build) but I didn't find a way to test that 17:05:59 sarob, I didn't test that part, sorry, I have no clue how to do that 17:06:17 and I'm quite sure that my patch is a mess anyway, I don't know what I'm doing :) 17:06:45 rluethi: you guys were batting different .js pub options last meeting 17:07:26 reveal.js wants markdown not rst natively 17:07:27 i just want to publish slides 17:08:40 dhellman: what are we using to publish html from dev RST right now? 17:09:06 sphinx 17:09:09 sarob: we use sphinx to convert rst to html 17:09:33 ah, of course 17:09:35 duh 17:09:56 hello 17:10:01 sorry for the delay 17:10:08 sayalillunkad: np 17:11:03 hello 17:11:09 long day today. Had the openstack workshop 17:11:40 lets go sphinx-hiero, cut the knot and move on 17:11:58 clarkb: has infra looked at using hieroglyph or landslide for RST to HTML? 17:11:59 reed: Im in :) 17:12:07 sarob: I thought reed had 17:12:46 dguitarbite: good timing 17:13:19 let me look for my patch 17:13:38 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132395/ 17:14:09 I reorganized the dir structure to imitate infra/developer docs 17:14:48 reed: guess i forgot the code was in there too 17:15:08 sarob: thanks 17:15:37 so i just want to branch juno at this poing 17:15:41 errg 17:15:43 point 17:15:59 my patch needs someone with more knowledge to test it at this point 17:16:20 from the rst->html perspective, so that I can ask the upstream trainers to review the content 17:16:31 dguitarbite: do you have a few cycles to test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132395/ 17:17:37 sarob: just a moment, let me check 17:18:00 ill approve of whatever works and gets html slides created 17:18:04 yes, I do 17:18:11 yep 17:18:14 I am in India, working on a Hackathon based on training guides 17:18:21 with sayalilunkad and vigneshvar 17:18:25 sweeet guys 17:18:37 It will take a few days - 2-3 weeks for me to back on track 17:18:52 more and more good stuff 17:18:56 happenning 17:19:06 but if you guys can work (RST content), I can manage to scrape some time and get the infra stuff for sphinx in with the jobs 17:19:16 so that we can have Juno released by the end of this month 17:19:22 dguitarbite: +1 17:19:38 I can cover for Roger here 17:19:50 I think 2 weeks (end of this month) should be good time to get Juno Stable 17:19:57 and published to openstack.org/marketplace/training 17:20:22 im okay with that 17:20:25 for the labs scripts 17:20:46 that will give us a month for kilo 17:21:03 to be all caught up 17:21:27 lets move on 17:21:38 sarob: we need not rush through Kilo\ 17:21:44 we can do it a month after the summit 17:21:59 dguitarbite: hmm, sure 17:22:11 i guess im kinda rushy right now 17:22:12 and then release the L release 17:22:16 on time 17:23:38 #info juno branch rescheduled for end of march2015 17:23:59 btw I will be making it to Canada for the summit this Summer :) 17:24:06 just got the travel support 17:24:07 me too :) 17:24:19 #action dguitarbite working on testing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132395/ 17:24:36 dguitarbite: excellent. beers all around! 17:24:46 #topic landing page 17:25:37 i have approval to add training-guides to the /marketplace/training online help section 17:25:48 awesome 17:25:50 sarob: that is aweosme! 17:26:00 but i have not had time to design a landing page yet :( 17:26:37 i will work with lauren and heidi from the foundation 17:26:43 ok 17:27:11 on getting non sponsorship paying training classes into the schedule there 17:27:31 its a bit of an issue the non-paying part 17:27:55 something to noodle on 17:28:09 sarob: I dont understand 17:28:33 which what? 17:29:39 non sponsersip paying training classes part 17:29:50 #info training guides URL will be added to the openstack.org/marketplace/training online help section once the landing page and juno is branched 17:29:56 dguitarbite: ah 17:30:10 dguitarbite: in the marketplace 17:30:18 ok 17:30:29 dguitarbite: its pay sponsorship dues to be listed there 17:30:37 dguitarbite: pay to play 17:30:47 why? 17:30:58 yuk, will that be our content? 17:31:00 dguitarbite: good question 17:31:13 dguitarbite: content? 17:31:14 I need some explaination, may be talk later? 17:31:41 dguitarbite: sure 17:31:47 sarob: ok :) 17:32:17 generally 17:32:46 if a company pays openstack foundation annual sponsorship dues 17:33:09 they get listed in the openstack.org/marketplace 17:33:29 ok, I think I get what you mean 17:33:39 may be we could talk to the foundation 17:33:48 or present our project in peroson during the summit 17:33:52 *person 17:33:55 well, those two are the foundation staff 17:34:02 ;) 17:34:19 sarob: ahh yes :D 17:34:43 sorry, Im tired, jet lagged and have a +40 degree change in temperature, its summer in India already : 17:35:02 we need to think through way that sponsorship still gets a benefit with free options side by side 17:35:15 dguitarbite: i totally get it 17:35:17 sarob: yes, I would like to keep it open and free 17:35:24 I work on this project in my personal time 17:35:39 as do the rest of the team (atleast I believe so) 17:35:51 i think so too 17:36:12 :) 17:36:19 although im working on blending training into my current gig 17:36:32 blending, yes 17:36:50 Kool! You will be like a customer too then 17:36:59 yes indeedy 17:37:26 sooo 17:38:19 #info sarob will continue to talk with foundation staff on blending commercial and open source training in the marketplace 17:38:48 #topic new landing page for docs.openstack.org 17:39:09 once we have juno mostly ready 17:39:30 i will ask that we be added back into docs.openstack.org 17:39:41 yes that would be good 17:39:43 from trunk and branches 17:40:15 cause we are soo awesome 17:40:36 haha 17:40:45 8-) 17:41:09 #info as juno branch is readied, sarob will get training back into docs.openstack.org 17:41:16 movin on 17:41:25 #topic state of patches 17:41:38 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/training-guides,n,z 17:43:08 im going to get back into the swing of things 17:43:41 lets merge patches this week 17:43:48 sarob: what do you think of moving to sphinx? 17:43:55 yes 17:44:08 sarob: If reed's tools are ready ( I need to check ), it would be better to move to Sphinx 17:44:10 my resistance has been broken 17:44:21 * dguitarbite the dark side has won! 17:44:37 * rluethi is on a lousy internet connection 17:44:39 live long and prosper 17:44:49 oh, wait... that's the other one 17:44:49 my brain waves have gone sine 17:44:53 reed: ;) 17:45:25 ah, sweet compliance 17:45:52 lets get stuff merged 17:46:05 * dguitarbite I am not in heaven either rluethi! 17:46:41 this week is a bit busy though since we have two openstack workshops 17:46:55 understood 17:46:56 dguitarbite: you don't deserve heaven, my patches are still unreviewed. 17:47:17 bam 17:47:24 sorry rluethi the workshop was very exaustive! So couldnt get time to review them 17:47:28 rluethi: I already sold my soul to satan in exchange for rock and roll, I guess its coming closer :D 17:47:39 rluethi: ill take a pass through as well 17:47:56 We had an audience of 120 people! We went insane! you are gonna have a blast on skype :P 17:47:59 * sarob waves jazz hands 17:48:17 sayalilunkad: just get me a better line than the one I had right now 17:48:17 * dguitarbite drools!!!! (jazz) 17:50:02 rluethi: ;p 17:50:15 potatoe potato 17:50:22 im all spent 17:50:38 #topic any other business 17:51:31 get a survey out to your audience if you can 17:51:38 more feedback 17:51:40 MORE 17:51:48 ok, will do that 17:51:50 MOOOOre 17:52:09 sayalilunkad: need me to create a need one? 17:52:31 im a monkeywizard 17:52:43 we have the old one 17:52:51 okey dokey 17:53:12 I didn't end up really distributing the previous one 17:53:20 no problems 17:53:49 you guys doing the workshop is awesome enough 17:54:05 sayalilunkad: pro-tip: not distributing the surveys diminishes their usefulness. 17:54:26 * sarob falls down 17:54:26 i know :/ I did a stupid thing last time 17:54:35 * dguitarbite follows 17:54:39 won't let them leave without filling it this time ;) 17:54:59 * sarob asks for a beer on the floor 17:55:14 im getting punchy 17:55:58 anything else my friends? 17:56:36 okey dokey 17:56:51 i will call this meeting to a close 17:56:53 im good 17:56:58 me, too 17:57:03 me too 17:57:03 cheers! 17:57:10 #endmeeting