17:00:32 <sarob> #startmeeting training-guides
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17:00:53 <sarob> roll call
17:00:59 <matjazp> hey
17:01:00 <rluethi> hey
17:01:06 * sarob \o/
17:01:41 <matjazp> no special meeting agenda today?
17:01:55 <rluethi> apparently not.
17:02:09 <matjazp> rluethi: your handy links will become handy ;)
17:02:11 <rluethi> gives us more time for Juno slides.
17:02:21 <sayalilunkad> hello
17:02:30 <sarob> heloo
17:02:36 <rluethi> hi, sayali
17:02:39 <sarob> i updated agenda
17:02:49 <sarob> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/training-guides#Agenda_06_April
17:02:51 <rluethi> that's cheating.
17:03:02 <sarob> well thats how i roll
17:03:13 <rluethi> as I was saying :-)
17:03:26 <sarob> ;)
17:03:41 <matjazp> hi sayali
17:03:44 <sarob> #topic reviews
17:03:53 <sarob> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/training-guides,n,z
17:04:21 <sarob> automation thingy
17:04:24 <sarob> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169658/
17:05:17 <matjazp> sarob: automation should be done in steps. First the gate check, than other stuff
17:06:08 <sarob> and this too much in one step
17:06:14 <sarob> this patch
17:06:16 <sarob> as is
17:06:17 <matjazp> that's how I started it in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169220/
17:07:05 <sarob> got it
17:07:51 <sarob> so dbite adjust his patch for yours
17:08:24 <matjazp> sarob: yes I think so, he still needs to rebase after we merge mine
17:08:50 <sarob> matjazp right
17:09:27 <matjazp> Pranav will enable building in the script, after that we will proceed with small steps.. Infra stuff can be tricky
17:10:01 <sarob> agreed
17:10:06 <sarob> i added noted
17:10:08 <sarob> notes
17:10:51 <sarob> move on to your upstream patches
17:10:54 <sarob> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170736/
17:11:07 <sarob> thanks for picking this up
17:11:14 <matjazp> I was looking at hiero (formatting and cleaning that needs to be done) and cleaned Upstream Training... quite some patches, but they are independent
17:11:58 <sarob> yeah, i like small, independent patches
17:12:13 <matjazp> we still need one that will adjust CSS to look as "regular" OpenStack slides (red title, etc.)
17:13:12 <matjazp> next wee need to copy Upstream format to the Training Guides
17:13:37 <sarob> sayalilunkad: can you take the CSS formatting on?
17:14:05 <sarob> im a bit slammed with hiring this week
17:14:50 <sarob> matjazp: i agree we follow upstream content lead
17:14:59 <matjazp> sarob: are there any official guidelines regarding the look of the slides for OpenStack? At the Foundation? Reed, do you know?
17:15:06 <sayalilunkad> matjazp: we will have to adjust the CSS to look like the upstream slides?
17:15:30 <sarob> laurensell you online?
17:15:34 <matjazp> sayalilunkad: no, we need to adjust CSS so slides look more like other OpenStack stuff... pages and all that
17:15:41 <reed> matjazp, not that I know of
17:15:58 <matjazp> reed: what about regarding web page looks?
17:16:07 <matjazp> we can adapt that
17:16:16 <reed> matjazp, yes
17:16:32 <sayalilunkad> matjazp sarob : Ah, I could but it will take me some time. A bit caught up atm. By end of this month I can take it up
17:16:33 <reed> there is also a theme on docs.openstack.org we can adapt to
17:16:38 <reed> best effort is what I suggest
17:16:57 <reed> whatever can be achieved with the smallest effort
17:16:58 <sarob> reed: i like that
17:17:06 <reed> 'presentable' is good enough :)
17:17:14 <matjazp> reed: exactly... just few tweaks... RED title, maybe font and some other design stuff
17:17:28 <matjazp> nothing fancy
17:17:28 <sarob> reed: for all the training content, right?
17:17:31 <reed> yep, glad we are all on the same page
17:17:42 <reed> sarob, in general, yes
17:17:49 <matjazp> sarob: all our material should look the same
17:17:59 <reed> I wouldn't want to spend too much time on a fancy layout when we have so much more to do on the content side
17:18:02 <sarob> matjazp: right on
17:18:12 <matjazp> reed: yes, I agree
17:18:25 <reed> i mean, if someone shows up with something supercool looking like docs.openstack.org then fine but it's not a priority IMHO
17:18:53 <sayalilunkad> agreed
17:20:00 <matjazp> reed: a look of the new docs.openstack.org was a community effort? Or some help from profi designers?
17:20:48 <reed> matjazp, it was a huge effort: first one of the designers at the Foundation made the design, then Tom and others worked on creating a theme
17:21:28 <reed> the designers at the foundation are horribly busy, docs rewrite took over 1 year
17:21:41 <annegentle> reed: right
17:21:54 <reed> granted, it's a more complex task than a template for slides
17:22:04 <annegentle> reed: also true
17:22:10 <reed> but still, it should give you an idea: we don't want to get there :)
17:22:34 <reed> just some color adjustement and slap the openstack logo somewhere (maybe) and we're good to go :)
17:23:35 <matjazp> reed: yes... and we take this stuff from docs pages :) No wheel reinventing.
17:24:23 <sarob> all sounds good
17:24:42 <sayalilunkad> ok, so it's good if we have it by EOM?
17:25:06 <sarob> its good for me
17:25:07 <matjazp> reed: when's your next upstream training?
17:25:20 <sarob> summit?
17:25:24 <reed> matjazp, in vancouver, may 16
17:25:39 <reed> BTW, I am looking for people to help with the Lego buildings
17:25:53 <sarob> so EOM cleanup in prep for summit is right on
17:25:54 <reed> need to be local in Vancouver or Seattle or near there
17:26:18 <sarob> reed: weekend before summit?
17:26:49 <reed> sarob, the training starts on Saturday, the Lego need to be done by then
17:26:52 <sarob> or just sunday
17:26:57 <sarob> 17 may
17:26:59 <reed> sarob, two days
17:27:04 <reed> Sat and Sun
17:27:07 <sarob> okay
17:27:50 <sarob> im a maybe
17:29:03 <sarob> im getting my new gear setup
17:29:10 <sarob> so i can update
17:29:13 <sarob> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142259/
17:29:16 <sarob> and others
17:29:42 <sayalilunkad> ok
17:30:07 <sarob> thats all i have this go around
17:31:07 <sayalilunkad> I wanted to know if I have everyone's approval to upload the AV video on the official channel
17:31:37 <sarob> +1
17:31:47 <rluethi> +1
17:31:52 <matjazp> sure, +1
17:32:08 <sayalilunkad> rluethi: ?
17:32:21 <rluethi> sayalilunkad: ?
17:32:32 <sayalilunkad> approval to upload the AV video on the official channel
17:32:32 * sarob ?
17:32:37 <matjazp> ?
17:32:56 <rluethi> sayalilunkad: It's right there. Also, I wrote sort of a review on the ML.
17:33:09 * matjazp just wants to print pretty question marks as other cool kids ;)
17:33:33 <sayalilunkad> rluethi: yes I got the mail.. And it is not on the channel yet
17:33:53 <rluethi> anyhow, for the record, +2 +1 :-).
17:34:02 <sarob> !!
17:34:03 <openstack> sarob: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
17:34:14 <sarob> oops
17:34:17 <sayalilunkad> cool,so we are good to go
17:34:17 <rluethi> lulz
17:34:48 <sarob> #topic any other business
17:35:03 <sarob> im good to go
17:35:11 <rluethi> I'm good
17:35:11 <sarob> anyone else
17:35:20 <sarob> ?
17:35:27 <matjazp> nothing else from me
17:35:32 <sayalilunkad> nah I'm good
17:35:38 <sarob> swweeeet
17:35:44 <sarob> time back to y'all
17:36:03 <rluethi> bye, then
17:36:04 <sarob> have a great week everyone
17:36:09 <sayalilunkad> bye
17:36:11 <sayalilunkad> :)
17:36:12 <matjazp> bye all
17:36:17 <sarob> #endmeeting