17:02:32 #startmeeting training-guides 17:02:33 Meeting started Mon Apr 27 17:02:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:02:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:02:37 The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' 17:02:41 agenda 17:03:01 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/training-guides 17:03:14 sorry i have been out 17:03:24 getting stuff at the new job organized 17:04:24 matjazp patches got it 17:04:28 in that is 17:05:07 the new docs PTL is asking that we figure out our specs 17:05:53 i got us a design session slot 17:06:23 sarob: hmm.. I think I won't be able to make it to the Summit 17:06:32 :( 17:06:48 dbite is going to make it 17:07:07 sarob: some money issues . about travel expenses. 17:07:12 monday 4:40-5:20pm room 224 17:07:19 holds 40 people 17:07:37 the ambassadors mtg is right after our 17:07:40 ours 17:07:49 thought that would make sense 17:07:54 hello 17:08:05 hi 17:08:05 dguitarbite hey 17:08:40 i got us a room for a design session at the summit monday afternoon 17:08:56 right before the ambassadors meeting 17:09:20 i have started working with the foundation 17:09:32 hello 17:09:35 on the testing certification standards stuff 17:09:43 sayalilunkad: hey 17:09:44 sayalilunkad: hello 17:09:59 sarob: that would be awesome to have certification standards! 17:10:03 hi sayalilunkad 17:10:38 dguitarbite: it is going to be a long process 17:10:44 sarob: did you discussed things about overlapping of testing in the training guides and the foundatoin's certification? 17:11:44 matjazp: the theory of it yes 17:12:08 matjazp: the linux foundation has been 17:12:17 sarob: sorry I couldnt attend.. overlapping of my schedule :( 17:12:19 matjazp: contracted by the openstack foundation 17:13:08 matjazp: no problem, i have temporarily suspended the testing standards meetings 17:13:09 sarob: I understand that this will be a long process! But Im glad its in progress :) 17:13:49 dguitarbite: yeah, 6 months of putting together the teams, scoping, etc 17:13:53 sarob: yes, I got your mail on the ML.. but I don't know if we can also use/or contribute/ some questions? 17:14:25 matjazp: there will def be a time for this team to get invovled with that 17:14:38 matjazp: it just wont be for a bit 17:14:49 matjazp: as the cert teams get spun up 17:16:02 its going to be very public and process oriented 17:16:19 from experience 17:16:29 it has to be legally defendable 17:17:03 people have sued over the tests and how they are put together 17:17:14 sigh 17:17:51 so whada i miss while i was out the last few weeks? 17:19:24 someone voluenteers for labs section? 17:19:43 I gues Sayali you are the best person to speak up as you have done most of the work in the last two weeks 17:20:24 sarob: we have added some new features to osbash 17:20:43 we have heat added and ceilometer in review 17:21:00 sweet 17:21:31 Also, some nice test scripts are in progress and some races have been fixed too 17:22:43 how's the publishing automation going? 17:22:47 dguitarbite: rluethi anything else? 17:23:05 I think you covered all the important bits. 17:24:14 Not much from my side either 17:25:21 did you have the automation bits in your personal repo 17:26:09 sarob: meaning? 17:26:41 dguitarbite: so i or stef could help 17:27:31 cause we wanted to have upstream training slides pub for the pre summit session 17:27:36 gate check is done, we still need to automate the publishing of slides 17:28:22 it is much quicker to review the slide content if we could see the changes in the review 17:28:45 matjazp: html version? 17:28:51 matjazp: not sure i understand 17:29:01 sarob: we also finished the transition from landslide to the hieroglyph 17:29:11 sarob: yes, html 17:29:17 matjazp: yeah, i saw that slide past 17:29:25 * sarob is punny 17:29:53 we still need to finish associate guide slides 17:30:09 we now have a "new" Openstack theme 17:30:12 yeah, i see those hanging over me 17:30:24 css? 17:30:28 sarob: I will help 17:30:42 yur my hero! 17:30:54 sarob: theme is ok for now, we need to focus on the content 17:31:02 okay 17:31:43 maybe you guys could also publish slides about how to use labs? 17:32:11 matjazp: good idea 17:32:21 and we could incorporate this directly in our slide material 17:32:33 we could reuse some of the slides from the workshop ppt 17:32:50 sayalilunkad: that would be good 17:32:53 sayalilunkad: sure 17:32:59 labs are covered in those 17:33:09 so is devstack and sandbox. 17:33:49 sayalilunkad: did you share that ppt from the workshop? 17:34:07 yes I shared the links 17:34:11 hmm... devstack.. I guess we will have some overlap with upstream training.. 17:34:18 sayalilunkad: okay i will dig out 17:34:34 sarob: http://blog.sayalilunkad.com/presentations.html 17:34:36 matjazp: yeah, 17:34:39 sarob: you can find them here 17:34:47 sayalilunkad: ah nice 17:34:59 sayalilunkad: so organized 17:35:07 sarob: :) 17:36:07 so for the summit if we can clean up the associate guide, publish html slides, 17:36:28 anything more that should get done labs wise before the summit? 17:36:47 want to create the how to slides for the summit? 17:36:54 sarob: all races should be fixed. all other known bugs, too. 17:37:10 rluethi: +1 17:37:20 mostly the labs are stable but some more polishing work 17:37:37 we should promote labs more... 17:37:47 you know, as a training tool 17:38:02 matjazp: maybe there's a chance in vancouver, for those who go there. 17:38:14 #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/+milestone/kilo-3 17:38:23 rluethi: yes, my thoughts exactly 17:38:25 a demo at the summit would be good 17:38:35 do we have any confirmed labs bugs right now? 17:39:04 just out of curiosity, are you still working on the kvm port? 17:39:04 sarob: a few races are still open, I believe. 17:39:06 yes the colorizer bug is there 17:39:21 sayalilunkad: that's a wishlist item. 17:39:32 rluethi: true. 17:39:54 matjazp: on my side, the KVM thing has stopped at the stage of PoC (lack of time). 17:40:06 matjazp: the kvm port is done but its on our personal repo and needs a lot of code refactoring. but it works. 17:40:16 matjazp: from my side the KVM python port for Ubuntu works 17:40:18 matjazp: It would take at least a few days work to get it in a useable state. 17:40:22 rluethi: did you encounter any blockers? or it just need polishing? 17:40:26 CentOS and OpenSUSE base is installed 17:41:20 why dont you guys publish a dev branch somewhere? 17:41:21 i have a akanda training session coming up in late may 17:41:25 matjazp: no blockers. but it needs more than just polishing. I just hacked the virtualbox glue code to do KVM instead. 17:41:45 i was thinking we could use some of osbash 17:42:19 sarob: that would be awesome 17:42:26 rluethi: can we agree to have the KVM version in Python? I have worked with sayalilunkad and have the initial POC deploying Ubuntu as required! We get more features like internet connectivity to the VMs 17:42:28 rluethi: that's a perfectly valid PoC. the code needs to get out there so we can all start playing with it 17:42:54 matjazp: dguitarbite and sayalilunkad have github repos. my code is too much of an embarrassement to be published. 17:43:23 matjazp: https://github.com/sayalilunkad/libvirtPOC 17:43:31 check the Ubuntu version, it works :) 17:44:03 dguitarbite: so merge it in training repo 17:44:30 sarob: I wish it were that simple :| 17:44:39 sarob: it needs code refactoring. 17:44:48 dguitarbite: we just support ubuntu with spaghetti code for now 17:45:04 sarob: meanwhile osbash is awesome! 17:45:12 we do not need to make haste here 17:45:29 dguitarbite: okey dokey 17:45:36 dguitarbite: im hasty 17:45:54 sarob: but it is on the way :) 17:48:06 so lets discuss what we want to get done over the next few weeks over the ML 17:48:25 im not sure im sure 17:48:47 what we all have time for and feel needs to get done 17:48:56 I am not keeping too well since the past week, so I cannot commit much till next week. 17:50:12 But I had taken up the task for the css and I'm afraid with my state it might be a bit delayed unless someone wants to take over. 17:50:13 sayalilunkad: understood 17:50:54 sayalilunkad: it's not so important to do css for now 17:51:23 prioritzing patching in flight, bp, bugs and assigning them to kilo-m3 as the summit target 17:51:23 matjazp: ok, but not even the openstack logo? 17:51:28 seems like a plan 17:51:47 then we branch kilo sometime post summit 17:52:06 sayalilunkad: sure.. we have title slides and colors for now.. logo is next but is not thiat crucial 17:52:26 sayalilunkad: we need to focus on the content 17:52:29 matjazp: alright that would be good. 17:53:07 so over the ML lets get down to the minimum for km3 17:53:19 sounds like a plan? 17:53:30 sure 17:53:30 sayalilunkad: I still like Google's theme2, but there are some bugs in the Heiroglyph.. will be patched in v0.8 iirc 17:53:59 theme2= slides2 17:55:26 matjazp: ok, theme2 hasn't been applied yet right? 17:55:59 I have a patch for enabling new theme for upstream content in the pipeline... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177780/, I think it's good enough for the Vancouver. If not, we can still update it. 17:56:30 sayalilunkad: no, I played with it and it has few annoying bugs 17:56:57 matjazp: ah. I will check it out. 17:56:57 it is getting fixed upstream (Hieroglyph) 17:58:09 matjazp: the theme is being fixed? 17:59:06 sayalilunkad: yes, see https://github.com/nyergler/hieroglyph/milestones/0.8 17:59:44 matjazp: oh upstream there. I misunderstood it for upstream training :/ 17:59:51 * sayalilunkad feels slow 17:59:58 closing time. 18:00:03 yup 18:00:16 bye 18:00:18 ill ping yall on the ml 18:00:21 k 18:00:22 bye 18:00:28 #endmeeting