17:05:20 <rluethi> #startmeeting training-guides 17:05:22 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Jul 13 17:05:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rluethi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:05:23 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:05:26 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' 17:05:31 <sayalilunkad> thanks rluethi :) 17:05:49 <rluethi> It's not as if I knew more than you do, but there you go :-). 17:06:22 <matjazp> standard agenda 17:06:29 <rluethi> right 17:06:35 <rluethi> #topic reviews 17:07:17 <rluethi> anyone care to comment on the pending patches? 17:07:38 <matjazp> nothing much in the queue... Pranav has some small changes for hic patch, ' have another on waiting in queue that depends on it 17:08:03 <rluethi> there's one patch for the labs scripts which isn't ready for merging 17:08:24 <sayalilunkad> are the patches for xml to rst conversion ready for review? 17:08:58 <matjazp> I don't believe so... at least they are not in the gerrit 17:09:36 <rluethi> is there a problem? 17:10:25 <matjazp> not that I know of 17:10:35 <rluethi> I think the scripts are ready to cut a new release. What's keeping the slides? 17:11:04 <matjazp> just not enough time for it 17:11:17 <rluethi> fair enough :). 17:11:26 <matjazp> we need to expand our community 17:11:34 <rluethi> is there anyone who could help out? 17:12:08 <sayalilunkad> We should get more attention at the next summit 17:12:18 <sayalilunkad> summit would be a good place for publicity 17:12:36 <rluethi> problem is, it's hard to get help if you haven't got anything to show. 17:12:52 <sayalilunkad> rluethi: that's right 17:13:16 <matjazp> rluethi: yes, it's easier to add to something existing than to start form scratch 17:14:16 <rluethi> matjazp: It's not only that. Everybody loves to jump a running bandwagon. 17:15:05 <matjazp> true 17:15:21 <matjazp> so, what can we do to resolve this deadlock? 17:15:50 <matjazp> unfortunately, it's not the greatest time to do it (vacation time) 17:17:00 <rluethi> matjazp: It's not exactly a trivial problem. Maybe have a hackathon kind of event!? Unlikely to take place before the next summit, though. 17:17:52 <sayalilunkad> rluethi: I don't know if you checked but I send out an email about a hands on session during the upstream training using osbash 17:18:18 <rluethi> sayalilunkad: I seem to remember that. 17:18:57 <sayalilunkad> that would do some good I think if it happens 17:19:13 <rluethi> sayalilunkad: but the labs script are not our biggest problem. in fact, they are looking pretty good. 17:19:20 <matjazp> I do like the idea of using labs as a test script for install guides 17:19:45 <rluethi> matjazp: me, too. It's the slide content that I am concerned about. 17:20:21 <sayalilunkad> true. 17:22:05 <rluethi> Maybe just get a room for half a day or a day and rework the slides with everyone who can make it to the summt. 17:22:10 <rluethi> s/summt/summit/ 17:22:40 <matjazp> you guys are going for sure? 17:23:19 <sayalilunkad> not sure 17:23:24 <rluethi> matjazp: For me it's a maybe. 17:24:30 <rluethi> but the slides work could be improvised, even a hotel room could work. 17:24:41 <matjazp> sayalilunkad: what about that talk at the summit? any news on that? 17:24:42 <rluethi> so no need for big plans and commitments. 17:24:59 <sayalilunkad> matjazp: not that I know of 17:25:56 <matjazp> did sean submit a proposal for a talk? 17:26:26 <rluethi> matjazp: who would know that, other than sean? where can we check? 17:27:10 <matjazp> hmm.. voting starts after the deadline 17:27:55 <sayalilunkad> which talk are we talking about? 17:28:27 <matjazp> we didn't discuss on ML about switching to another time slot... pranav and sean can't make it to this slot anymore. 17:29:55 <matjazp> sayalilunkad: didn't sean proposed a talk about the training guides? 17:30:19 <sayalilunkad> matjazp: I don't think so. I might be missing something there though. 17:35:36 <rluethi> so, are we done with this topic? 17:35:56 <matjazp> I guess so... 17:36:12 <rluethi> #topic any other business 17:36:25 <rluethi> any takers? 17:36:46 <matjazp> or, if you guys have some time to look at the review patches from sean and clean them up a bit... I can take a chapter 17:37:08 <matjazp> I'm talking about XML to RST conversion 17:37:24 <rluethi> matjazp: and then we would review? 17:37:41 <matjazp> I can clean up 1st chapter, like I did for networking chapter(nr. 7 I think) 17:38:29 <matjazp> rluethi: yes, just shorten them up, take long bullets text and push it to the speaker notes 17:38:34 <rluethi> matjazp: ping me if you need a review. 17:39:05 <matjazp> rluethi: can you perhaps do a chapter yourself? 17:39:59 <rluethi> matjazp: If I had enough time to get comfortable with the slides and work on them, I'd rather clean up the KVM backend in osbash. 17:41:06 <matjazp> ok 17:41:10 <matjazp> sayali? 17:41:42 <matjazp> btw, did you reply to pranav's last mail? 17:41:55 <sayalilunkad> Me too. I have been wanting to finish the python port for a while now but don't have enough time for it. 17:42:29 <sayalilunkad> matjazp: I haven't yet. 17:43:43 <rluethi> matjazp: I hope we can do the rest at the summit, if needed. you'd be our instructor. 17:44:32 <matjazp> rluethi: yes, not a problem. But the problem is that I still don't know if I'll be there. It's mid semester 17:44:52 <rluethi> same for all of us, I guess. let's hope for the best. 17:45:06 <rluethi> anyhow, I think we're done. 17:45:10 <rluethi> are we? 17:45:16 <rluethi> call it a day? 17:45:21 <sayalilunkad> yup 17:45:24 <matjazp> sayalilunkad: did you apply for travel program last summit? 17:45:30 <sayalilunkad> matjazp: I did 17:45:49 <matjazp> you intend to do it again for tokio? 17:46:02 <matjazp> or is it one tim eonly stuff? 17:46:17 <sayalilunkad> matjazp: I might. Bot certain yet. Though this time the acceptance is going to be very low I hear. 17:46:28 <matjazp> why? 17:46:32 <sayalilunkad> matjazp: no, you are allowed to apply multiple times. 17:46:50 <sayalilunkad> matjazp: Apparently tokyo is very expensive. 17:47:16 <matjazp> in the same range as paris, is it not? 17:47:48 <sayalilunkad> they say it is more than paris somehow 17:49:00 <matjazp> then it's even harder for us to be there all at the same time... 17:49:35 <rluethi> matjazp: yeah, but waiting for barcelona is not a good option, either. 17:50:37 <matjazp> I would gladly change the time slot for this IRC meeting if it means more attendence from at least all core memebers 17:51:20 <rluethi> propose a doodle on the ML? 17:52:18 <sayalilunkad> that should work. 17:52:26 <matjazp> sure... do we mark acceptable timesplots or unacceptable time slots? 17:52:43 <sayalilunkad> acceptable I think 17:52:49 <rluethi> matjazp: huh. hadn't thought about that. 17:53:45 <rluethi> maybe just ask those who can't attend right now what they would need. 17:53:57 <matjazp> sadly, if it's not in the evening, I don't know if I can make it up front... I get my semester schedule a few weeks before it starts 17:54:05 <matjazp> and it's always different 17:55:00 <matjazp> around 11pm CET would be ideal for me.. but not for sayali ;) 17:56:10 <sayalilunkad> I am most likely moving to CET from next month so it won't be a problem. 17:56:31 <matjazp> oh really? study? work? 17:57:05 <sayalilunkad> work it is :) 17:57:47 <matjazp> nice 17:58:24 <matjazp> ok so it's a deal then: 11pm on mondays ;) 17:58:28 <matjazp> just joking 17:58:51 <sayalilunkad> :D 17:59:19 <matjazp> ok, lets wrap it up and try to sync over ML for new time slot 17:59:22 <matjazp> roger? 17:59:23 <rluethi> k. 17:59:26 <sayalilunkad> sure 17:59:31 <rluethi> #endmeeting