17:01:32 <sarob> #startmeeting training-guides 17:01:33 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Aug 3 17:01:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:34 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:36 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' 17:01:53 <rluethi> hey 17:02:08 <sarob> hey 17:03:04 <sarob> ive been terribly distracted by work 17:03:23 <rluethi> k? 17:03:26 <rluethi> anyone else? 17:03:48 <sarob> i noticed a few patches for osbash 17:03:53 <sarob> formally known as 17:04:10 <sarob> any progress on setting up the new repo? 17:04:31 <sarob> matjazp: hey 17:04:33 <rluethi> I believe pranav is working on it. 17:04:35 <matjazp> hey all 17:04:42 <rluethi> i posted some patches for osbash, yes. 17:04:44 <matjazp> sorry I'm a bit late 17:04:59 <sarob> matjazp: hows the certification going? 17:05:00 <rluethi> minor tweaking, and a workaround for the floating IPs. 17:05:07 <matjazp> hey sarob, long time no see 17:05:17 <sarob> matjazp: indeed 17:05:23 <dguitarbite> hello 17:05:34 <sarob> i can only join for 30 min 17:05:44 <sarob> i have a hard stop at 30 after 17:05:52 <sayalilunkad> hello 17:05:56 <sarob> sayalilunkad: hey 17:06:09 <matjazp> sarob: why haven't we discussed about shifting time sot on ML? 17:06:16 <matjazp> sot=slot 17:06:44 <sarob> matjazp: i believe i popped it out there 17:07:05 <sarob> matjazp: i may have only mentioned on irc 17:07:17 <matjazp> sarob: ? you did? I didn't see it 17:08:10 <sarob> matjazp: back on 01jul 17:08:31 <sarob> matjazp: i didnt follow up though 17:09:14 <sarob> matjazp: hows the certification meetings going? 17:09:41 <matjazp> sarob: now sayali is in CET timezone (you are, right? :), maybe we can find a more suitable time slot for all of us 17:10:08 <sayalilunkad> matjazp: I am 17:10:08 <matjazp> sarob: you have to ask dguitarbite about that 17:10:33 <sarob> sayalilunkad: congrats 17:10:53 <matjazp> sayalilunkad: nice... I guess we (CET TZ) kinda steal you guys from +5.5 ;) 17:10:57 <sayalilunkad> sarob: thanks :) 17:11:13 <matjazp> sayalilunkad: first dguitarbite, now you 17:11:24 <sayalilunkad> haha 17:11:57 <rluethi> soon, there will nobody be left in india. 17:12:29 <matjazp> if we extrapolate this trend even further, even sarob will move here ;) 17:12:29 <sarob> im good with moving the meeting to earlier 17:12:45 <sarob> matjazp: my wife would love that 17:12:58 <sarob> matjazp: she spend two years in GER 17:13:03 <sarob> spent 17:14:27 <matjazp> sarob: earlier? when do you wake up man? (I was hoping to postpone it for 2 to 3 hours ;) 17:14:41 <sarob> matjazp: im good either way 17:15:51 <sarob> whats the status of publishing the upstream materials? 17:15:58 <matjazp> do we have a "standard" agenda? 17:16:13 <sarob> the last time i updated it was june 17:16:20 <sarob> i think its a bit out of date 17:17:01 <matjazp> sarob: it is updated a bit, but not some large changes 17:17:07 <sarob> i have new stuff for upstream 17:17:26 <sarob> im running my second training of it this thursday 17:18:27 <matjazp> sarob: nice. can you push some patches for review? 17:18:46 <sarob> sure 17:19:33 <sarob> ill rewrite my pub slides http://www.slideshare.net/SeanRoberts1/4-hr-upstream-training 17:19:35 <sarob> in rst 17:19:38 <matjazp> sarob: now it is much easier to review this stuff since we have draft publishing in the gate 17:19:54 <sarob> cool 17:20:12 <matjazp> sarob: hmm... is this a shorter version of the "official" upstream training? 17:20:40 <sarob> it is 17:20:56 <sarob> a few hours 17:21:01 <sarob> for user groups 17:21:26 <matjazp> hmm.. any ideas how can we incorporate this stuff into the longer version? 17:22:41 <sarob> my thinking is we have different ones 17:22:56 <sarob> 2, 4, 18 hr versions 17:23:13 <sarob> overlap in content 17:23:26 <sarob> but will need to be tweaked differently 17:23:30 <matjazp> sure, it makes sense, but how we avoid duplication 17:24:14 <sarob> its possible to only change a slide or two between the three 17:24:28 <sarob> ill have to do some research 17:24:30 <matjazp> idealy, we would have shorter versions "generated" from a more complete longer version, we could just skip slides 17:24:43 <sarob> i agree 17:24:49 <sarob> it would be the best 17:25:38 <matjazp> so the shorter versions are hand picked slides from a longer version 17:25:48 <matjazp> what do others think of this idea? 17:26:39 <rluethi> matjazp: It's what I would do, too. 17:27:17 <sarob> #action sarob research how to incorporate 2, 4hr versions of upstream training without duplication 17:27:33 <sarob> i have to jump out for 15 minutes 17:27:37 <matjazp> this way we avoid duplication (at the expense of some flexibility, eg. it would not be possible to mix two slides into one) 17:27:37 <sarob> ill be back 17:27:44 <dguitarbite> I gtg now. Have a event to attend 17:28:06 <sarob> dguitarbite: cheers 17:28:18 <dguitarbite> sarob: :). See ya guys. 17:28:21 <sarob> dguitarbite: ping the ML on your repo progress 17:28:21 <matjazp> dguitarbite: bye, see you 17:29:07 <rluethi> bye 17:29:59 <rluethi> okay, now what? do we entertain ourselves for 15 min? 17:30:26 <rluethi> I tried to answer all questions regarding the patches under review. any other questions/comments? 17:30:56 <matjazp> for this "hand picking" of the existing slides: we should just make custom code that matches the slide title and include content into new shorter generated slide 17:31:10 <sayalilunkad> I gtg too. See you next week! 17:31:37 <matjazp> rluethi: sure, it's ok. we did discuss everything 17:32:17 <rluethi> I have another logging patch ready once these are merged. 17:32:44 <matjazp> rluethi: comments in the Gerrit are the best way for this (as it stays woth the patch for future reference) 17:32:57 <matjazp> rluethi: which one are you waiting for? 17:33:43 <rluethi> well, my next patch depends on "Keep additional logs files". 17:34:13 <rluethi> all my patches sort of depend on "Wait for floating IP to turn up", because I can't test without it :-). 17:34:55 <matjazp> I can merge this patient_ping :))))) workaround, it has 2 +2 :) 17:35:38 <rluethi> cool. 17:38:16 <matjazp> hehe... patient_ping() :) nice naming 17:39:21 <rluethi> thx :-). I think the function could be use elsewhere in the test script (there are other test ping). 17:39:56 <matjazp> if you also +2 the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208193/, it can be also merged , as it will have 2 +2s 17:41:12 <rluethi> done 17:41:45 <matjazp> merged 17:42:00 <rluethi> thank you. 17:42:14 <matjazp> hey, what's with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204626/ ?? it should be merged! 17:43:05 <matjazp> Gerrit bug? 17:43:28 <rluethi> I dunno. 17:43:38 <rluethi> I gave it another shot. 17:44:21 <matjazp> lets see what happens :) 17:47:09 <matjazp> hmm.. maybe this hard stop at 19:30 for sean and pranav is a good thing? we could have shorter meetings ;) 17:47:49 <sarob> maybe so 17:47:51 <rluethi> :-) 17:48:10 <rluethi> hah! we're just waiting for #endmeeting 17:48:24 <matjazp> sarob: we fixed the review queue 17:48:30 <rluethi> matjazp: it's been merged 17:48:32 <sarob> okay 17:48:40 <matjazp> rluethi: nice.. just a gerrit bug than 17:48:56 <matjazp> just one review in the queue 17:49:08 <matjazp> hmm.. what about bugs? 17:49:23 <rluethi> matjazp: which bugs? 17:49:51 <matjazp> rluethi: do you think we have an empty bug queue? 17:50:49 <rluethi> matjazp: plenty of things to improve, port to kilo is not done yet, but no showstopper bugs that I know of. 17:51:02 <matjazp> we need to remove old ones (for old content) 17:51:18 <matjazp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides 17:51:21 <matjazp> #link 17:51:21 <rluethi> actually, I had a problem with the test script on opensuse. 17:51:27 <rluethi> no idea why. 17:51:40 <rluethi> it never got a dhcp lease. 17:51:55 <rluethi> same script that worked on every other platform. 17:51:57 <matjazp> rluethi: where are we with CI and using labs for install guides? 17:52:15 <rluethi> for CI we pretty much need a KVM backend. 17:52:24 <matjazp> rluethi: is it a stable bug? or just a fluke? (race condition?) 17:52:43 <rluethi> it seemed pretty damn stable to me. 17:52:53 <rluethi> but only on that opensuse setup I had. 17:53:01 <rluethi> never seen it anywhere else. 17:53:07 <rluethi> I blame pranav. 17:53:21 <matjazp> rluethi: botched opensuse install? 17:54:21 <rluethi> opensuse (tumbleweed, that is) comes with virtualbox 5.0, maybe that's the reason. 17:54:29 <rluethi> but that's pure speculation. 17:55:17 <matjazp> sarob: we can try few meetings with 30 min time slot? and see how it goes? 17:55:27 <sarob> sounds good to me 17:55:36 <sarob> sorry my other meeting is running long 17:56:03 <matjazp> sarob: discuss all "your" stuff first, and if we need more time, we just continue without you 17:56:11 <sarob> sounds good 17:56:30 <matjazp> rluethi: what do you think? 17:56:43 <rluethi> works for me. 17:57:07 <matjazp> ok.. so.. we wrap it up for today 17:57:39 <sarob> roger 17:57:42 <rluethi> yup 17:57:46 <sarob> orr matjaz 17:57:53 <sarob> #endmeeting