17:01:32 #startmeeting training-guides 17:01:33 Meeting started Mon Aug 3 17:01:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:36 The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' 17:01:53 hey 17:02:08 hey 17:03:04 ive been terribly distracted by work 17:03:23 k? 17:03:26 anyone else? 17:03:48 i noticed a few patches for osbash 17:03:53 formally known as 17:04:10 any progress on setting up the new repo? 17:04:31 matjazp: hey 17:04:33 I believe pranav is working on it. 17:04:35 hey all 17:04:42 i posted some patches for osbash, yes. 17:04:44 sorry I'm a bit late 17:04:59 matjazp: hows the certification going? 17:05:00 minor tweaking, and a workaround for the floating IPs. 17:05:07 hey sarob, long time no see 17:05:17 matjazp: indeed 17:05:23 hello 17:05:34 i can only join for 30 min 17:05:44 i have a hard stop at 30 after 17:05:52 hello 17:05:56 sayalilunkad: hey 17:06:09 sarob: why haven't we discussed about shifting time sot on ML? 17:06:16 sot=slot 17:06:44 matjazp: i believe i popped it out there 17:07:05 matjazp: i may have only mentioned on irc 17:07:17 sarob: ? you did? I didn't see it 17:08:10 matjazp: back on 01jul 17:08:31 matjazp: i didnt follow up though 17:09:14 matjazp: hows the certification meetings going? 17:09:41 sarob: now sayali is in CET timezone (you are, right? :), maybe we can find a more suitable time slot for all of us 17:10:08 matjazp: I am 17:10:08 sarob: you have to ask dguitarbite about that 17:10:33 sayalilunkad: congrats 17:10:53 sayalilunkad: nice... I guess we (CET TZ) kinda steal you guys from +5.5 ;) 17:10:57 sarob: thanks :) 17:11:13 sayalilunkad: first dguitarbite, now you 17:11:24 haha 17:11:57 soon, there will nobody be left in india. 17:12:29 if we extrapolate this trend even further, even sarob will move here ;) 17:12:29 im good with moving the meeting to earlier 17:12:45 matjazp: my wife would love that 17:12:58 matjazp: she spend two years in GER 17:13:03 spent 17:14:27 sarob: earlier? when do you wake up man? (I was hoping to postpone it for 2 to 3 hours ;) 17:14:41 matjazp: im good either way 17:15:51 whats the status of publishing the upstream materials? 17:15:58 do we have a "standard" agenda? 17:16:13 the last time i updated it was june 17:16:20 i think its a bit out of date 17:17:01 sarob: it is updated a bit, but not some large changes 17:17:07 i have new stuff for upstream 17:17:26 im running my second training of it this thursday 17:18:27 sarob: nice. can you push some patches for review? 17:18:46 sure 17:19:33 ill rewrite my pub slides http://www.slideshare.net/SeanRoberts1/4-hr-upstream-training 17:19:35 in rst 17:19:38 sarob: now it is much easier to review this stuff since we have draft publishing in the gate 17:19:54 cool 17:20:12 sarob: hmm... is this a shorter version of the "official" upstream training? 17:20:40 it is 17:20:56 a few hours 17:21:01 for user groups 17:21:26 hmm.. any ideas how can we incorporate this stuff into the longer version? 17:22:41 my thinking is we have different ones 17:22:56 2, 4, 18 hr versions 17:23:13 overlap in content 17:23:26 but will need to be tweaked differently 17:23:30 sure, it makes sense, but how we avoid duplication 17:24:14 its possible to only change a slide or two between the three 17:24:28 ill have to do some research 17:24:30 idealy, we would have shorter versions "generated" from a more complete longer version, we could just skip slides 17:24:43 i agree 17:24:49 it would be the best 17:25:38 so the shorter versions are hand picked slides from a longer version 17:25:48 what do others think of this idea? 17:26:39 matjazp: It's what I would do, too. 17:27:17 #action sarob research how to incorporate 2, 4hr versions of upstream training without duplication 17:27:33 i have to jump out for 15 minutes 17:27:37 this way we avoid duplication (at the expense of some flexibility, eg. it would not be possible to mix two slides into one) 17:27:37 ill be back 17:27:44 I gtg now. Have a event to attend 17:28:06 dguitarbite: cheers 17:28:18 sarob: :). See ya guys. 17:28:21 dguitarbite: ping the ML on your repo progress 17:28:21 dguitarbite: bye, see you 17:29:07 bye 17:29:59 okay, now what? do we entertain ourselves for 15 min? 17:30:26 I tried to answer all questions regarding the patches under review. any other questions/comments? 17:30:56 for this "hand picking" of the existing slides: we should just make custom code that matches the slide title and include content into new shorter generated slide 17:31:10 I gtg too. See you next week! 17:31:37 rluethi: sure, it's ok. we did discuss everything 17:32:17 I have another logging patch ready once these are merged. 17:32:44 rluethi: comments in the Gerrit are the best way for this (as it stays woth the patch for future reference) 17:32:57 rluethi: which one are you waiting for? 17:33:43 well, my next patch depends on "Keep additional logs files". 17:34:13 all my patches sort of depend on "Wait for floating IP to turn up", because I can't test without it :-). 17:34:55 I can merge this patient_ping :))))) workaround, it has 2 +2 :) 17:35:38 cool. 17:38:16 hehe... patient_ping() :) nice naming 17:39:21 thx :-). I think the function could be use elsewhere in the test script (there are other test ping). 17:39:56 if you also +2 the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208193/, it can be also merged , as it will have 2 +2s 17:41:12 done 17:41:45 merged 17:42:00 thank you. 17:42:14 hey, what's with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204626/ ?? it should be merged! 17:43:05 Gerrit bug? 17:43:28 I dunno. 17:43:38 I gave it another shot. 17:44:21 lets see what happens :) 17:47:09 hmm.. maybe this hard stop at 19:30 for sean and pranav is a good thing? we could have shorter meetings ;) 17:47:49 maybe so 17:47:51 :-) 17:48:10 hah! we're just waiting for #endmeeting 17:48:24 sarob: we fixed the review queue 17:48:30 matjazp: it's been merged 17:48:32 okay 17:48:40 rluethi: nice.. just a gerrit bug than 17:48:56 just one review in the queue 17:49:08 hmm.. what about bugs? 17:49:23 matjazp: which bugs? 17:49:51 rluethi: do you think we have an empty bug queue? 17:50:49 matjazp: plenty of things to improve, port to kilo is not done yet, but no showstopper bugs that I know of. 17:51:02 we need to remove old ones (for old content) 17:51:18 https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides 17:51:21 #link 17:51:21 actually, I had a problem with the test script on opensuse. 17:51:27 no idea why. 17:51:40 it never got a dhcp lease. 17:51:55 same script that worked on every other platform. 17:51:57 rluethi: where are we with CI and using labs for install guides? 17:52:15 for CI we pretty much need a KVM backend. 17:52:24 rluethi: is it a stable bug? or just a fluke? (race condition?) 17:52:43 it seemed pretty damn stable to me. 17:52:53 but only on that opensuse setup I had. 17:53:01 never seen it anywhere else. 17:53:07 I blame pranav. 17:53:21 rluethi: botched opensuse install? 17:54:21 opensuse (tumbleweed, that is) comes with virtualbox 5.0, maybe that's the reason. 17:54:29 but that's pure speculation. 17:55:17 sarob: we can try few meetings with 30 min time slot? and see how it goes? 17:55:27 sounds good to me 17:55:36 sorry my other meeting is running long 17:56:03 sarob: discuss all "your" stuff first, and if we need more time, we just continue without you 17:56:11 sounds good 17:56:30 rluethi: what do you think? 17:56:43 works for me. 17:57:07 ok.. so.. we wrap it up for today 17:57:39 roger 17:57:42 yup 17:57:46 orr matjaz 17:57:53 #endmeeting