17:01:19 <matjazp> #startmeeting training-guides
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17:01:23 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides'
17:01:29 <matjazp> roll call
17:01:42 <cloudtrainme> Hi
17:01:45 <rluethi> hi
17:01:48 <jmckind> hello
17:01:49 <madorn> hi
17:02:06 <matjazp> hi all
17:02:42 <matjazp> #topic outstanding actions from last meeting
17:03:00 <mgrohar> hi
17:03:05 <matjazp> there's no specific agenda, so the "standard" one will suffice :)
17:03:50 <matjazp> #info matjazp sent status report to Lana and Tim
17:04:15 <matjazp> #topic upstream training
17:04:40 <matjazp> we have reached an important milestone - we’re no longer published as draft! http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/
17:04:47 <matjazp> #info we have reached an important milestone - we’re no longer published as draft! http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/
17:05:01 <matjazp> #info we have a new landing page (we used the Docs default theme, so material is nicely integrated into other official Docs)
17:05:09 * cloudtrainme celebrates at my desk
17:05:14 <matjazp> #info our material is now included as a separate section in the official docs index page, with Upstream training as a first official deliverable (http://docs.openstack.org/#training-guides)
17:05:34 <matjazp> so, nice work everyone! :))
17:05:51 <cloudtrainme> great leadership matjazp:
17:05:56 <matjazp> we still have outstanding bugs
17:06:19 <matjazp> #info upstream training bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/?field.searchtext=upstream&search=Search&assignee_option=none
17:06:50 <matjazp> and we still need to migrate stuff from old Upstream wiki to the new landing page
17:07:08 <matjazp> but things are moving in the right direction
17:08:11 <matjazp> I expect the will be some new bugs for upstream as soon as we're few days from the event
17:08:40 <matjazp> there are always some last minute changes ;)
17:09:43 <matjazp> everything is updated continuously as soon as the patch merges and is also visible right away
17:10:43 <matjazp> anything else about upstream?
17:11:20 <madorn> i dont have anything right now
17:12:09 <matjazp> ok, moving on
17:12:16 <matjazp> #topic training slides
17:12:47 <matjazp> upstream training is a priority, but we can still work on the training slides
17:13:02 <matjazp> any progress here?
17:13:30 <cloudtrainme> I'm about to commit the overview slide of Nova
17:13:42 <matjazp> cloudtrainme: great!
17:14:02 <matjazp> cloudtrainme: did you manage to fix tox?
17:15:16 <cloudtrainme> yes...turned out to be a problem with my personal PTYTHONPATH
17:15:25 <cloudtrainme> PYTHONPATH
17:15:53 <matjazp> aha, ok. the slide submission process is not really straightforward
17:16:08 <matjazp> I know trainers are used to Powerpoint and like
17:16:36 <matjazp> hmm.. do we need a Wiki page with more detailed instructions about contributing?
17:17:31 <matjazp> oh.. I forgot, we already have a bug for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/+bug/1492972
17:17:32 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1492972 in OpenStack Training Guides "Update Wiki with instructions about contributing " [Undecided,Confirmed]
17:18:14 <spotz> matjazp Just joining but please:)
17:18:42 <madorn> matjazp: just curious..so right now if one were interested in getting information on contributing to upstream openstack, what would be the first resource
17:18:44 <madorn> we would direct them to
17:19:03 <madorn> within the training guides..
17:19:27 <matjazp> madorn: are we talking about contributing to the upstream training or upstream OpenStack in general?
17:19:45 <madorn> upstream OpenStack
17:20:02 <madorn> we'd expect them to review this deck, right? http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/12-howtocontribute.html#1
17:20:08 <matjazp> that's what the upstream training is for
17:20:41 <matjazp> please also look at the dev docs
17:21:20 <matjazp> http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html
17:21:48 <spotz> matjazp And if interested in helping with training guides specifically?
17:22:19 <matjazp> spotz: we use the same process as for the code
17:22:30 <matjazp> bugs/patches and gerrit
17:22:57 <matjazp> look a the bugs queue https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/
17:23:05 <matjazp> assign a bug
17:23:20 <matjazp> submit a patch to the Gerrit (review.openstack.org)
17:23:22 <spotz> jump on reviews, etc?
17:24:09 <matjazp> yes, contributing to the training guides is the same as contributing code
17:24:28 <spotz> sounds good
17:24:34 <matjazp> except that our main deliverables are slides and rst landing pages
17:25:25 <matjazp> clone the repo, add/modify rst files, run tox to build locally, submit to tge gerrit
17:26:08 <matjazp> we also have gate checks and builds
17:26:54 <matjazp> if you click on the jenkins gate check, you can see submitted patch as it would render when it will be merged
17:27:32 <matjazp> we use sphinx/hieroglyph and rst source for slides
17:28:18 <matjazp> if you have any questions about the process, don't hesitate to ask
17:28:44 <spotz> matjazp Will do, I saw one of your meetings a month or so ago and you peeked my interest
17:29:10 <matjazp> we also use a docs ML , if you prefer asnyc msgs
17:29:18 <matjazp> async
17:29:35 <matjazp> spotz: great, we need all the help we can get
17:29:44 <matjazp> especially for the t
17:29:47 <matjazp> Training slides
17:30:10 <spotz> after the meeting just pass me the ML, don't want to keep interrupting:)
17:30:59 <matjazp> #info we use Docs ML http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs
17:32:01 <matjazp> we're a Docs Speciality team, so we use all the Docs infrastructure
17:32:56 <matjazp> anything else about Training slides?
17:33:43 <madorn> nope..
17:33:59 <matjazp> ok, moving on
17:34:06 <matjazp> #topic AOB
17:34:20 <matjazp> stage is yours :)
17:35:38 <matjazp> if you like, you can introduce yourself, if you're new here
17:36:10 <madorn> my name is Matt Dorn and I work on the Rackspace Training Team :)
17:36:37 <madorn> currently contribute to openstack-manuals and goign to start contributing to training guides
17:36:44 <matjazp> welcome Matt :)
17:36:47 <madorn> thanks!
17:37:14 <cloudtrainme> Welcome madorn:
17:37:28 <madorn> thanks
17:37:44 <cloudtrainme> matjazp: do we have an outline for the Training Slides
17:38:10 <matjazp> cloudtrainme: yes, hidden at the bottom of the wiki :/
17:38:14 <cloudtrainme> outlining topics we want to cover
17:38:23 <matjazp> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Training-guides#Training_slides_-_Modules
17:38:38 * matjazp needs to update the wiki, but has no time to do it
17:38:46 <spotz> Amy Marrich, also at Rackspace as a Linux Ops Admin. Current contributing to Barbican project
17:38:57 <matjazp> welcome Amy!
17:38:58 <spotz> err ops engineer but same thing:)
17:39:00 <cloudtrainme> Welcome spotz:
17:39:12 <madorn> hi spotz.
17:39:39 <spotz> Hey matjazp, madorn and cloudtrainme:)
17:41:50 <matjazp> should we wrap it up?
17:42:19 <cloudtrainme> all good here
17:42:29 <madorn> sure, think im good right now, gonna take some times to see if i can tackle the bugs.
17:42:46 <matjazp> madorn: just ping me (IRC or ML)
17:42:50 <madorn> sounds good, thanks
17:43:29 <spotz> thanks for all the info:)
17:43:56 <matjazp> glad to help
17:44:08 <matjazp> spotz: if you need anything just ping me or the ML
17:44:20 <spotz> Will do thanks matjazp
17:44:36 <matjazp> thanks all for you time
17:44:42 <matjazp> see you next week
17:44:46 <matjazp> bye!
17:44:49 <madorn> matjazp, bye thanks!
17:44:52 <cloudtrainme> bye
17:44:56 <jmckind> bye all
17:45:23 <spotz> bye
17:45:49 <matjazp> #endmeeting