20:00:31 #startmeeting training-manuals 20:00:31 Meeting started Mon Aug 26 20:00:31 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:32 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:00:35 The meeting name has been set to 'training_manuals' 20:00:56 roll call 20:01:39 Colin - Present 20:02:09 mestery, tristan? 20:02:48 oh well, lets go 20:03:01 going 20:03:11 I have a hard stop at 1:30 20:03:12 going? 20:03:18 lets get going 20:03:26 please, begin. 20:03:30 #topic review action items from last meet 20:03:54 two week sprint announcement 20:04:26 i got some feedback, but no takers 20:04:34 to contribute and sign on 20:04:44 not too surprising 20:05:08 I just recorded a spot at VMworld that should come out this week 20:05:20 cool, about? 20:05:33 describing what we are doing in openstack-trainking 20:05:36 err training 20:05:41 and calling people to participate 20:05:48 sweet 20:05:59 I'm also giving a vBrownbag at VMworld on wednesday 20:06:12 OpenStack for VMware admins, and doing a call to action at the end 20:06:17 call for participation 20:06:33 #info colinmcnamara vmware openstack training spot and brownbag, calling for participation 20:06:38 nifty 20:06:43 thanks for doing that 20:06:46 no worries 20:06:58 I'm also helping people through merges and workflow in the hang space 20:07:00 during the week 20:07:13 #info sarob send out community email requesting contributors 20:07:22 arg 20:07:26 one feedback I got 20:07:33 #info sarob sent out community email requesting contributors 20:07:37 yeah 20:07:38 was that people are participating via the webex hackathon 20:07:44 Whats "the hang space"? 20:07:52 its a meeting space at VMworld 20:07:57 an event that is going on righ tnow 20:08:24 got it 20:08:26 one, thought (proposed action) is that we put some focus on using the webex to organize particpation 20:08:54 hmm, i want to start using hangouts 20:08:55 also, Brocade tech marketing approached me with questions on how to get involved. I'm going to see if they can dedicate a portion of an FTE 20:09:02 cool 20:09:04 webex, hangout.. no preference on the tech 20:09:24 just saying I think we should try to expand our hackathons (mini sprints) beyond the geo 20:09:40 re: WebEx if you plan to ue it "we" need to manage it better. I get the feeling the folks online on Tuesday are not getting "full Value" 20:09:46 yeah, im just thinking about the req of g_acct and getting auto recorded to openstack channel 20:10:17 everyone needs to use the conf for it to work for the remotes 20:10:27 otherwise it sucks 20:10:31 s/Tuesda/Thursday Hackathon/ 20:10:31 yes 20:10:48 rev: I agree with that statement 20:11:09 #action sarob setup reoccuring hangout for thurs sfbay hackathons 20:11:12 contrary to common conception: A/V is hard. 20:11:27 is there any experts in the community that we can leverage for guidance? 20:11:37 and after we figure it out, maybe something we can document for the infra team 20:11:48 or, in meetup group guidance 20:11:53 hangouts are the solution i believe 20:11:54 I'd be willing to docuement it ... but I am no expert 20:12:00 everyone has diff ideas 20:12:14 exactly. I have no preference to method of implimentation 20:12:20 i just want to setup it up, use it, and get the video to the channel 20:12:29 I agree with that goal 20:12:30 hangout is the only thing that can do that 20:12:38 sadly 20:13:17 I also suspect that "we" could make better use to the A/V equipment in the Yahoo conference rooms. 20:13:35 i think that has been the problem 20:13:36 is that an Action? 20:13:46 (filling out kanban cards right now for actions) 20:13:53 If you can arrange a meeting/training with A/V staff at Yahoo, I'd be willing to work with them to docuement hte process. 20:13:55 see above 20:14:13 just scrolled 20:14:15 braindead 20:14:15 roger that 20:14:29 question 20:14:36 drainbead 20:14:39 is there any contacts at google that help with things like this 20:14:39 ? 20:14:47 for? 20:14:53 using hangout? 20:15:00 using google hangout / apps for community stuff 20:15:05 its pretty straight forward 20:15:22 i was tryn to not use g_accts 20:15:23 ... not from my experience. 20:15:41 hangouts always breaks bad when I use it. 20:15:42 it actually pretty easy 20:15:51 really? using what? 20:16:00 I'm unlucky... techolgically cursed 20:16:10 hangouts 20:16:12 its been solid using osx and chrome for me 20:16:25 Oh. well yah... if you use a mac. ;-) 20:16:33 ahh, welll 20:16:54 #info sarob created sprintday eventbrite event 20:17:09 Note to self. Pack up macbook the morning before going to hackathon 20:17:19 right ;) 20:17:34 that macbook should be with you always 20:17:47 agenda items for today 20:17:52 er... not PC (Politically correct) at HP. 20:18:03 work on that! 20:18:07 :-) 20:18:12 some things cannot be changed 20:18:32 #topic we need community contributors from the user groups 20:18:40 ... unless you are lucky enough to work on printer drivers. Then Mac is cool. 20:19:35 i think i need to document a bit of how we have been operating hackathons for the past few times 20:19:41 I agree 20:19:53 I think the format we have come to, is reproducable 20:19:57 and that can be the script plus wiki for other user groups 20:20:05 agreed 20:20:13 agreed 20:20:30 1-2 experienced with git, mvn, launchpad, gerrit 20:20:45 lead the group with the training materials as source 20:20:56 rinse, repeat 20:21:29 ny, boston, seattle, la, denver, dc 20:21:37 minn 20:21:41 so, my gut feel 20:21:50 is that lots of the meetup group organizers are interested 20:21:51 on my short list to hit up 20:21:53 austin 20:21:59 RTP 20:22:15 everyone has expressed interest. I think we need to get the format, and action down 20:22:21 BTW, hint: training works better if you show the end result FIRST. Like how you'd show a magic trick. You would never think to teach a magic trick by showing the process first, you show the end first, then the steps 20:22:21 this is also a very crazy idea 20:22:26 that if we do one virtually 20:22:31 so lets create a list of user groups, contacts, and status 20:22:45 agreed 20:22:49 wiki page for location? 20:23:10 add it to the training wiki? 20:23:15 agreed 20:23:17 at the end 20:23:29 you want to take that colinmcnamara? 20:23:44 yes, I'll take that action 20:24:37 #action colinmcnamara will write up user groups, contacts, and status for reproducing sfbay training focused hackathons 20:25:05 #action sarob will write up page of training focused hackathon using sfbay as example 20:25:40 rev magic trick explained? 20:26:29 #topic sprint day 11sep 20:26:54 i created the eventbrite event 20:27:02 any feedback? 20:27:27 yes. show example of submitted page, then show submitting page 20:28:00 for the training materials? 20:28:05 is there a reserve / ticket function available on eventbrite? 20:28:13 yes 20:28:15 I would like to verify the count of attendees 20:28:16 ok 20:28:18 cool 20:28:43 three signed up so far 20:28:59 I should probably sign up for it huh? 20:29:01 pranav, tristan, mestery 20:29:05 is the link on the wiki? 20:29:22 openstack-training.eventbrite.com 20:30:35 ticket information say no tickets are available? 20:30:55 you need the registration code i sent out 20:31:28 can you resend the code. I'd like to document it on the wiki and lower the barier to entry 20:32:15 just got the mail 20:32:21 i was attempting to limit the people to show up that have contributed a page 20:32:52 up to you, its your space 20:32:59 gotcha 20:33:07 probably good 20:33:17 I'm going to reach out through the SFbay meetup meembers 20:33:24 some of the active ones 20:33:24 Weird. I just got an EventBrite invitation for an HP OpenStack event. Please send one to revasn@hp.com 20:35:17 oopd misspelt my own name: revans@hp.com 20:35:30 Sean, do you have that action? 20:36:09 already sent 20:36:13 awesome 20:36:25 to the wrong email address ;) 20:36:38 my bad 20:38:12 resent 20:38:37 thx 20:38:42 #topic any other business 20:40:14 bueler, bueler, bueler.... 20:40:57 okey dokey, its a wrap 20:41:16 #endmeeting