02:03:03 <colinmcnamara> #startmeeting training-manuals
02:03:04 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Sep 25 02:03:03 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is colinmcnamara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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02:03:07 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'training_manuals'
02:03:16 <sarob> Thx :)
02:03:16 <colinmcnamara> better?
02:03:21 <sarob> Yup
02:03:27 <colinmcnamara> ok, 2 more min and I'll kick it off
02:03:38 <sarob> I'm on phone with bad reception
02:03:50 <colinmcnamara> no worries
02:03:53 <sarob> So I will phase in and out
02:04:02 <colinmcnamara> it's just you and I right now
02:04:09 <colinmcnamara> 60 second warning
02:04:52 <colinmcnamara> its go time. Kicking meeting off
02:05:03 <colinmcnamara> first topic
02:05:06 <colinmcnamara> #Topic - Proposed Topics
02:05:31 <colinmcnamara> 1. Burn Down Status
02:05:31 <colinmcnamara> 2. Major Blocking issues
02:05:31 <colinmcnamara> 3. RST - Docbooks Status
02:05:33 <colinmcnamara> 4. david kramer log bug standard 70% done
02:05:35 <colinmcnamara> 5. check for prior commit
02:05:48 <colinmcnamara> are there any other topics that anyone would like to propose
02:05:49 <colinmcnamara> ?
02:05:55 <sarob> Nope
02:06:08 <colinmcnamara> #info no additional proposed topics
02:06:15 <colinmcnamara> changing topic
02:06:16 <colinmcnamara> #Topic Burn Down Status
02:06:37 <colinmcnamara> this last week was a very productive week for the project
02:06:37 <sarob> I'm going to be offline for 15min
02:06:40 <colinmcnamara> ok
02:06:46 <colinmcnamara> it's only you and I
02:06:52 <colinmcnamara> I will run through the meeting for the logs
02:07:01 <sarob> If you want to hold I'll be back
02:07:01 <colinmcnamara> on Sept 16 - 43 hours completed
02:07:06 <sarob> Or not
02:07:11 <sarob> Up to you
02:07:26 <colinmcnamara> sure, what time will you return?
02:07:51 <colinmcnamara> 7:20?
02:08:18 <colinmcnamara> #topic meeting break until 7:20 PDT
02:21:10 <sarob> I'm back
02:21:19 <sarob> I'm back
02:21:40 <sarob> Cool thx dude
02:22:32 <colinmcnamara> cool
02:22:45 <colinmcnamara> #topic meeting break end.
02:22:56 <colinmcnamara> #Topic Burn Down Status
02:23:01 <colinmcnamara> ok, back on track
02:23:15 <colinmcnamara> last weeks meeting we had 43 cards completed
02:23:25 <colinmcnamara> as of today we have 59
02:23:32 <colinmcnamara> that is a huge increase
02:23:48 <colinmcnamara> this work brought the estimated burn down date from 12/22 to 12/1
02:23:56 <colinmcnamara> even with 5 cards added
02:24:05 <colinmcnamara> https://BurndownForTrello.com/share/9c3rfd2fu9
02:24:05 <colinmcnamara> 5 extra cards added - not in backlog
02:24:05 <colinmcnamara> 
02:24:06 <colinmcnamara> Total Cards:134Remaining Cards:75Done Cards:59Percent of cards done:Hours at start:80Hours est total:134Hours remaining:75Hours done:59Percent of hours done:--------Days Elapsed54Daily Burndown1.09Est. Days Left68Est. Completion Date12/01/13
02:24:29 <colinmcnamara> Summary stats
02:24:29 <colinmcnamara> Total Cards:	134
02:24:29 <colinmcnamara> Remaining Cards:	75
02:24:30 <colinmcnamara> Done Cards:	59
02:24:32 <colinmcnamara> Percent of cards done:	44.03%
02:24:34 <colinmcnamara> Hours at start:	80
02:24:36 <colinmcnamara> Hours est total:	134
02:24:38 <colinmcnamara> Hours remaining:	75
02:24:40 <colinmcnamara> Hours done:	59
02:24:42 <colinmcnamara> Percent of hours done:	44.03%
02:24:44 <colinmcnamara> ----	----
02:24:46 <colinmcnamara> Days Elapsed	54
02:24:48 <colinmcnamara> Daily Burndown	1.09
02:24:50 <colinmcnamara> Est. Days Left	68
02:24:52 <colinmcnamara> Est. Completion Date	12/01/13
02:24:54 <colinmcnamara> thats better
02:24:58 <colinmcnamara> any questions / comments on our burn down rate?
02:25:15 <sarob> Nope
02:25:27 <colinmcnamara> #topic Major Blocking issues
02:26:07 <sarob> Rst to xml?
02:26:19 <colinmcnamara> I don't see any current issues blocking work, though I do forsea the RST to XML becoming an issue in 2 weeks
02:26:34 <colinmcnamara> I think that we need to figure it out in relatively short order
02:27:04 <colinmcnamara> I would say that it needs to be a status topic on next weeks meeting. and if there isn't forward process that we set a date the week after to do something ghetto
02:27:08 <colinmcnamara> but I do think we are close
02:27:22 <sarob> Aren't the dev rst docs where roles info should come from?
02:27:32 <colinmcnamara> roles info?
02:27:46 <colinmcnamara> I've been mining them for the concepts and technology overview
02:27:48 <colinmcnamara> sections
02:27:53 <colinmcnamara> they are a gold mine
02:28:26 <sarob> I'm going to do a sample run of pandoc tomorrow
02:28:34 <colinmcnamara> good, let's multi-thread it
02:28:52 <colinmcnamara> i'm at home all week, (no airplanes or cars) so I should make progress too
02:28:58 <sarob> Any advice on tags to convert to
02:29:05 <sarob> Sections?
02:29:06 <colinmcnamara> I suggest let's over communicate if either finds something interesting
02:29:20 <sarob> Sounds good
02:29:30 <colinmcnamara> so, the output is article - section -section - section
02:29:39 <colinmcnamara> lots of work, won't get solved tonight
02:30:04 <colinmcnamara> but I suggest that we both work on it, and then when kramer gets done with the bug link we rope him in
02:30:10 <sarob> Hmm, if I can just parse the article
02:30:40 <colinmcnamara> I suggest we both try alternate methods, and then compare our findings and communicate
02:30:47 <sarob> Sure, new bug file cool
02:30:48 <colinmcnamara> it might just take a second set of eyes
02:30:58 <sarob> Sure
02:31:10 <colinmcnamara> moving on
02:31:12 <colinmcnamara> #topic - david kramer log bug standard 70% done
02:31:26 <sarob> Very nifty
02:31:33 <colinmcnamara> have you been following david's work on auto bug creation?
02:31:38 <sarob> Yup
02:31:52 <colinmcnamara> me too
02:31:53 <sarob> I'm ready to replace ours with his
02:32:01 <sarob> When it's ready
02:32:15 <colinmcnamara> is it added at post, or in the xml?
02:32:53 <sarob> Xml I believe
02:32:54 <colinmcnamara> I would agree that we should go and edit our XML, though I want to discuss whether that should be added to the backlog and we just change the example
02:33:15 <colinmcnamara> just being aware of adding work that does not get us to an alpha
02:33:58 <colinmcnamara> your perspective?
02:34:57 <colinmcnamara> sarob: ?
02:35:00 <sarob> If it's easy replacement of a few lines, then it's okay with me
02:35:16 <sarob> Otherwise it cab wait
02:35:21 <sarob> Can
02:35:31 <colinmcnamara> let's see what it looks like.
02:35:38 <sarob> Yup
02:35:44 <colinmcnamara> #topic check for prior commit - rebase / merge
02:36:20 <colinmcnamara> so, last week I merged some code
02:36:37 <colinmcnamara> that overwrote bk001-ch003...
02:36:55 <colinmcnamara> that was my bad for not reviewing with a diff the chapter file
02:37:10 <sarob> Ah, right
02:37:15 <colinmcnamara> I worked out the proper procedure for dealing with that, and it is kind of complicated
02:37:29 <colinmcnamara> involves a git rebase
02:37:36 <sarob> So you rebased?
02:37:40 <colinmcnamara> yup
02:37:53 <colinmcnamara> it was a pain, but I think I can get it down to not a pain
02:38:19 <sarob> Yeah, had to rebase
02:38:26 <sarob> Once last week too
02:38:46 <colinmcnamara> I think it will become second hand. but we may want to update the primary docs to have people check for a commit ahead of them
02:38:54 <colinmcnamara> most likely documented with treeview
02:39:02 <colinmcnamara> and then document the rebase procedure
02:39:26 <sarob> Sounds great
02:39:39 <colinmcnamara> and .. I think both of us need to make sure to take a close look at bk001-ch003... each time we merge in the review site to make sure lines aren't deleted
02:39:49 <sarob> Yup
02:40:42 <colinmcnamara> oh, think I should add one more topic
02:41:00 <sarob> Okey dokey
02:41:00 <colinmcnamara> #topic - sfbay meetup goal for next week
02:41:38 <colinmcnamara> I'm assuming the goal is to get contributors, I think we will be at a point by mid next week that we should be able to get a bunch of commits
02:42:09 <colinmcnamara> to keep focusing on increasing the average card rate
02:42:22 <colinmcnamara> which will bring in our date
02:42:35 <sarob> Sounds good
02:43:06 <colinmcnamara> oh, and I have a couple new team members coming on line in the next few weeks. So expect increasing commits from NexusIS
02:43:12 <sarob> Sweet
02:43:42 <colinmcnamara> any other business ?
02:44:12 <sarob> Nope
02:44:18 <colinmcnamara> k, meeting adjuourned
02:44:21 <sarob> Good stuff
02:44:22 <colinmcnamara> #endmeeting