20:15:58 <lifeless> #startmeeting tripleo
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20:16:02 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo'
20:16:09 <lifeless> #topic agenda
20:16:16 <lifeless> bugs
20:16:16 <lifeless> Grizzly test rack status
20:16:16 <lifeless> CI virtualized testing progress
20:16:16 <lifeless> open discussion
20:16:17 <SpamapS> is it enough to just do ^^ ? ;)
20:16:24 <lifeless> #topic bugs
20:16:31 <lifeless> Discussed earlier, see actual logs.
20:16:38 <lifeless> #topic Grizzly test rack status
20:16:44 <lifeless> end of september this becomes free
20:16:47 <lifeless> I might ask our users if we can cannablise part of it earlier
20:16:54 <lifeless> 08:15 < SpamapS> Yeah it would be nice to have some hardware for the sprint
20:16:57 <lifeless> ok
20:17:00 <lifeless> 08:15 < SpamapS> (hardware whose network configuration we know actually works I should say ;)
20:17:06 <lifeless> sorry for mootbot protocol fail there
20:17:24 <lifeless> SpamapS: yeah, thats a major aspect for me
20:17:34 <lifeless> #topic CI virtualized testing progress
20:17:55 <pleia2> so, I have an lxc config file that seems to work and the seed node running in lxc
20:18:24 <pleia2> process list shows I should have everything I need, but working to get over some hurdles actually accessing keystone (and so nova, glance, etc)
20:18:43 <lifeless> would you like some interactive debugging assistance?
20:18:46 <pleia2> notes still being tracked in the etherpad
20:18:49 <pleia2> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/tripleobaremetallxc2013
20:18:54 <pleia2> I might need some, yeah
20:20:48 <pleia2> but once I get this done, I'll be patching boot-seed-vm and a few other scripts that need some tweaks to support lxc
20:21:13 <pleia2> that's pretty much it for now
20:21:35 <lifeless> cool
20:21:45 <lifeless> #topic open discussion
20:22:10 <SpamapS> lifeless: you mentioned we're assured 5 slots for tripleo at the summit..
20:22:24 <lifeless> yes
20:22:27 <SpamapS> lifeless: what about Tuskar? Seems like we are all related
20:22:59 <lifeless> good question!
20:23:08 <shadower> slots?
20:23:16 <SpamapS> shadower: sessions
20:23:46 <lifeless> shadower: there are a fixed number of rooms, with blocked out time periods for programs
20:23:58 <SpamapS> ~1hour discussions in rooms with projectors and smartish people :)
20:24:28 <lifeless> so, Tuskar doesn't get any time window as it's neither an official program, nor an incubated one.
20:24:48 <lifeless> I think it's entirely reasonable for us to share our 5 slots amongst all deployment discussions
20:25:14 <SpamapS> I thought it had a perliminary go-ahead on incubation.
20:25:23 <SpamapS> prelim even
20:25:27 <lifeless> so - Tuskar sessions proposals should be put in the tripleo stream
20:25:52 <SpamapS> Ok agreed, particularly I think it is reasonable to devote a session to "what other programs need from tripleo"
20:26:22 <lifeless> SpamapS: no, Tuskar have self-organised to elect a PTL, but no request has been made of the TC to consider them.
20:26:40 * shadower wondered if he missed something
20:27:00 <lifeless> SpamapS: (and that would provoke substantial discussion given the current wording they put forward as a mission, since it's 99% overlap with the OpenStack Deployment program - tripleo - wording
20:28:24 <lifeless> SpamapS: which Monty alludes to in his email in the Savanna Incubation Request thread.
20:28:48 <lifeless> shadower: Missed something ?
20:29:10 <shadower> lifeless: re: premilinary incubation go-ahead
20:29:50 <SpamapS> do we have interest from any of the other programs in feeding requirements/features into tripleo?
20:30:12 <SpamapS> Thats kind of what I'm getting at. I understand that tuskar is built on top.
20:30:23 <lifeless> SpamapS: yeah, - propose a session :)
20:30:34 <SpamapS> But like, we had trove using our dib tools, and Heat could potentially start relying on o-c-c .. etc. etc.
20:30:42 <SpamapS> lifeless: I will, wanted to hash it out here :)
20:31:03 <lifeless> SpamapS: it seems like a reasonable thing, but perhaps having tuskar specific sessions would be more productive
20:31:25 <lifeless> SpamapS: I worry that a 'come tell us your needs' session will be 10m of discussion and 40m of crickets
20:31:48 <SpamapS> me too, hence my thinking Tuskar lumped in there would provide a forum but not waste our time
20:31:51 <lifeless> SpamapS: vs a 'lets work with Tuskar on the bootstrap / user admin / management stories'
20:32:12 <lifeless> shadower: I haven't seen an incubation request for Tuskar
20:32:46 <lifeless> shadower: the summit time allocation process is based on the programs & [legacy model] projects approved by the tc
20:32:52 <shadower> lifeless: yeah, me neither and I'm not aware of any preliminary talks either
20:32:57 <shadower> right
20:33:07 <lifeless> shadower: so this came up here in context of 'what about time slots to discuss tuskar things'
20:33:11 <lifeless> shadower: ack cool - same page.
20:33:16 <shadower> yup
20:33:33 <lifeless> shadower: so I'm proposing that we advise folk interested in Tuskar sessions to submit them and put them in the TripleO stream.
20:33:44 <lifeless> I might see if ttx can rename that 'Deployment' as thats the actual program name.
20:33:51 <lifeless> And would avoid confusion.
20:34:00 <SpamapS> Yeah, I'm not going to put one in myself.
20:34:12 <lifeless> shadower: what do you think?
20:34:21 <shadower> lifeless: sounds great, thanks
20:34:28 <SpamapS> The ones already in there are all the stuff I think we need to discuss internally to our program anyway.
20:34:37 <SpamapS> (there are plenty of other things outside us that need discussing)
20:34:41 <lifeless> shadower: we only have 5 session slots, but we should be picking from the full set of sessions that would fit there.
20:34:51 <shadower> lifeless: is this related to the talks whose abstract deadline was several weeks ago or is this something else? (the sessions)
20:34:57 <lifeless> shadower: something else
20:35:07 <lifeless> shadower: the technical design portion of the summit
20:35:26 <lifeless> shadower: http://summit.openstack.org/
20:35:27 <shadower> lifeless: right. Sorry, I've never been on one and didn't read up on it yet
20:35:52 <shadower> lifeless: I'll bring it up on Tuskar's meeting tomorrow (hopefully more informed by then)
20:37:47 <lifeless> shadower: np; I've mailed thierry about changing the label for now
20:37:56 <shadower> cool
20:38:28 <lifeless> ok
20:38:32 <lifeless> timing out the meeting in 1m
20:38:42 * SpamapS would like to get going actually
20:38:56 <SpamapS> as in 'motion to end meeting early seconded'
20:39:07 <dkehn> thrid
20:39:10 <dkehn> third
20:39:55 <lifeless> #endmeeting