07:04:35 <marios> #startmeeting  TripleO Weekly
07:04:36 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Aug  6 07:04:35 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is marios. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
07:04:37 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
07:04:39 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo_weekly'
07:04:52 <marios> can someone help with the meetbot?
07:04:54 <marios> shadower: ?
07:05:00 <marios> #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO
07:05:09 <marios> OK.
07:05:13 <marios> #topic Bugs
07:05:36 <lsmola> marios: you have tamed the bot :-)
07:05:50 <marios> lsmola: srsly, feel free to add links/notes esp if you know meetbot
07:05:53 <tchaypo> Going well so far :) I think only you can use the topic and startvote commands, but anyone can use note, link, info
07:06:11 <tchaypo> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/
07:06:13 <tchaypo> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/
07:06:15 <tchaypo> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config
07:06:17 <tchaypo> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config
07:06:19 <tchaypo> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config
07:06:21 <tchaypo> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config
07:06:23 <tchaypo> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar
07:06:25 <tchaypo> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient
07:06:27 <marios> thanks tchaypo
07:06:38 <marios> OK bunch of criticals for tripleo
07:06:40 <tchaypo> tripleo has 8 criticals
07:06:47 <lsmola> marios: unfortunately I don't know it :-)
07:06:53 <tchaypo> I'm seeing 4 with no assignee
07:07:19 <marios> anyone looked at any of these? updates? questions? discussion
07:07:31 * marios hasn't looked at bugs for a few days
07:07:35 <tchaypo> one of those is fixed, I'm assigning to bnemec as he added the update to say it's fix committed
07:07:44 <marios> tchaypo: remember which?
07:08:18 <tchaypo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1352336
07:08:20 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1352336 in tripleo "init-keystone fails with ConnectionRefused" [Critical,Fix committed]
07:09:01 <marios> #info https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1352336 critical tripleo will be updated to fix-committed by tchaypo
07:09:07 <marios> anything else?
07:09:30 <tchaypo> not that I can see can be fixed right now.
07:09:43 <marios> #topic reviews
07:10:06 <marios> #link http://www.stackalytics.com/report/reviews/tripleo-group/open
07:10:21 <marios> http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/tripleo-group/30
07:10:28 <marios> probably don't need link for these
07:10:36 <tchaypo> marios: there's a chunk to copy/paste on the wiki page under https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO#reviews
07:10:46 <marios> ah thanks
07:10:53 <marios> #info There's a new dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard"
07:10:57 <marios> #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html
07:10:59 <marios> #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt
07:11:02 <marios> #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt
07:11:18 <marios> is it 3rd quartile we look at
07:11:40 <marios> anyone?
07:11:42 <tchaypo> Yes, usually
07:11:55 <marios> 3rd quartile wait time: 12 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes
07:12:05 <tchaypo> Under Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2 :
07:12:16 <marios> AH in which case
07:12:18 <marios> 3rd quartile wait time: 15 days, 13 hours, 47 minutes
07:12:20 <marios> ouch
07:12:31 <tchaypo> #info 3rd quartile of Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2  has slipped to >15.5 days
07:12:53 <tchaypo> #info median is 7 days, but average is 11. We are developing a nasty long tail.
07:12:58 <shadower> vacation + conferences + the sprint?
07:13:00 <marios> everyone doing their 3-a-day?
07:13:03 <shadower> could be just a summer outlier
07:13:06 <marios> yeah was about to ask about holidays
07:13:18 <marios> but still its the highest number i can remember recently anyway
07:13:35 <tchaypo> I think vacation + conferences + midcycle probably explains it
07:13:40 <lsmola> marios: I've been OOO for month, I hope we don't have to do reviews on vacation :-D
07:13:42 <marios> yeah forgot about midcycle
07:13:50 <marios> lsmola: OF COURSE YOU DO!
07:13:51 <tchaypo> I know I haven't had time to look at reviews since before the midcycle..
07:13:54 <lsmola> marios: hehe
07:14:04 <marios> OK
07:14:09 <tchaypo> So in summary, how about we say:
07:14:33 <tchaypo> we've had a lot of people away with vacation/conferences/mid-cycle but we really need cores to start picking up the slack and knocking out some of the older reviews
07:14:48 <shadower> yep
07:14:50 <marios> thanks tchaypo that sounds fine
07:15:00 <marios> would we note that?
07:15:01 <lsmola> tchaypo: sounds reasonable
07:15:11 <tchaypo> FWIW http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt still shows 13 people with 60 reviews in the last 30 days
07:15:17 <marios> #note tchaypo> we've had a lot of people away with vacation/conferences/mid-cycle but we really need cores to start picking up the slack and knocking out some of the older reviews
07:15:36 <tchaypo> marios: thanks :)
07:15:45 <marios> anything else here?
07:15:59 <marios> #topic CI
07:16:06 <marios> anyone around for a summary/status?
07:16:08 <marios> derek?
07:16:25 <tchaypo> http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/s_tripleo-jobs.htmlk has a summary
07:16:28 <marios> http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/s_tripleo-jobs.html
07:16:33 <marios> thanks :)
07:16:47 <marios> #link http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/s_tripleo-jobs.html
07:17:04 <tchaypo> I'd love to get some graphs on that so we have some idea how that compares historically
07:17:07 <marios> so 29.5% sounds bad, but i don't know what it ususally is
07:17:09 <marios> right
07:17:25 <tchaypo> My understanding from discussion at the mid-cycle is that we expect a lot more capacity to come online soon
07:17:52 <tchaypo> we're almost getting hp1 back, we should have hp2 before long, another vendor is getting close to having a region available for us
07:18:32 <tchaypo> so we expect that not only will we see things moving a *lot* faster, we'll be able to add more tests and still see things move faster
07:18:53 <marios> right, was about to ask about the correlation (i.e. more capacity --> more jobs faster?)
07:19:02 <marios> greatstuff
07:19:05 <tchaypo> more jobs in parallel at least
07:19:21 <marios> OK. anything else here?
07:19:31 <tchaypo> specs seems to have been removed from the agenda
07:19:32 <marios> i notice release isn't on the agenda
07:19:36 <marios> and that
07:19:41 <marios> #topic release
07:19:46 <tchaypo> I'm not sure why; I got the impression from the mid-cycle that folk found it handy to have around
07:19:46 <marios> i'd like to volunteer this week
07:19:56 <tchaypo> marios: I accept your vonunteerism
07:19:57 <marios> unless someone else wants to
07:20:02 <tchaypo> s/vonun/volun/
07:20:14 <marios> cool, shadower i may bug you a bit... only had one question really about it
07:20:32 <marios> who is an OpenStack release manager for stable branches
07:20:37 <marios> (of a given project)
07:20:44 <marios> from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO/ReleaseManagement
07:21:03 <marios> OK will resolve offline
07:21:29 <marios> #topic tuskar
07:21:54 <marios> lsmola: quick summary? or shadower dougal?
07:22:15 <marios> lots of work on the heat templates
07:22:27 <d0ugal> We have made great progress with Tuskar development tasks.
07:22:53 <d0ugal> I think we are getting close to having something working which will cover the majority of features in the Tuskar specs
07:23:11 <d0ugal> jdob was working on integration yesterday and seemed to be making decent progress.
07:23:19 <d0ugal> Integration of the different pieces that is.
07:23:40 <marios> anything the wider group can help with at the moment?
07:24:08 <marios> d0ugal: great thanks for the summary
07:24:14 <marios> moving on unless there is anything else
07:24:17 <d0ugal> I think we are good but code reviews are always useful.
07:24:21 <d0ugal> That's all from me :)
07:24:38 <marios> OK so the agenda ends here guys
07:24:45 <marios> is there anything else we want to talk about? specs?
07:25:00 <lsmola> I have a spec you can review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111985/
07:25:18 <marios> lsmola: what is this in relation to?
07:25:18 <lsmola> that should finally solve the overcloud keystone init
07:25:38 <tchaypo> marios: can you set the topic to specs?
07:25:40 <marios> OK... sec
07:25:43 <lsmola> It has been big pain in the ass for the UI for a long time :-)
07:25:43 <marios> yeah tchaypo just realised
07:25:45 <marios> thanks
07:25:48 <marios> #topic specs
07:25:59 <marios> so lsmola> I have a spec you can review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111985/
07:26:28 <marios> #note: review request for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111985/
07:26:33 <tchaypo> :)
07:26:39 <lsmola> :-) thank you
07:26:58 <marios> #topic open discussion
07:27:11 <marios> geez you guys are chatty today
07:27:14 <marios> too much coffee?
07:27:21 <marios> unless there is anything else
07:27:24 <marios> we can move on with our lives
07:27:30 <lsmola> yes, my fingers are shaking :-)
07:27:30 <shadower> marios: grumble grumble morning grumble
07:27:40 <tchaypo> There was one thing I wanted to say
07:27:45 <tchaypo> If I could remember what it was ....
07:27:52 <lsmola> tchaypo: lol
07:27:54 <marios> srsly :)
07:28:10 <marios> #note tchaypo was going to say something important but forgot what it was
07:28:15 <d0ugal> lol
07:28:15 <tchaypo> I think it was that I checked the 90-day reviewer stats, and we have 14 who have made 180 reviews there (3x 60 work days)
07:28:18 <lsmola> lol :-D
07:28:34 <marios> #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt
07:28:37 <tchaypo> so compared against 13 who have made 60 in the last 30 days, that sounds like the problem is not cores not doing enough
07:28:50 <d0ugal> tchaypo: Doesn't that include weekends tho'?
07:28:54 <tchaypo> but probably we're getting a higher volume, and/or some tricky reviews are hanging around longer
07:29:03 <d0ugal> oh wait, nm
07:29:08 <tchaypo> :)
07:29:16 * d0ugal hasn't had enough coffee
07:29:33 <StevenK> marios: lifeless, tchaypo, anteaya, jogo and I were all at PyCon AU last week. Takes a few days to get brain space back :-)
07:29:35 <shadower> tchaypo: I've seen a lot of reviews that were being held up because of the CI
07:29:56 <d0ugal> StevenK: I'm still recovering from EuroPython :)
07:29:59 <marios> StevenK: yeah i caught you guyz mid curry negotiations with lifeless
07:30:08 <StevenK> Haha
07:30:12 <marios> StevenK: it was morning and i was craving a vindaloo at 9 am
07:30:21 <StevenK> Ah yes, I remember that
07:30:29 <marios> OK thanks all unless there is antying else?
07:30:30 <StevenK> tchaypo and I are considering PyCon NZ
07:30:31 <lifeless> anyone tripleo-cd-admins wanting to help with CI rollout your help would be massively appreciated
07:30:32 <d0ugal> shadower: +1, I've noticed that too.
07:30:43 <marios> lets continue in #tripleo
07:30:46 <lifeless> derek has documented the bighammer burning script on the etherpad
07:31:05 <tchaypo> StevenK: considering? I'm in the middle of booking
07:31:06 <marios> lifeless: is that re the build fail rate
07:31:22 <lifeless> marios: well, capacity
07:31:25 <lifeless> marios: and coverage
07:31:44 <marios> lifeless: tchaypo updated us about hp2 coming soon + other vendor
07:31:53 <tchaypo> #note Any tripleo-cd-admins http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/s_tripleo-jobs.html - lifeless notes that derek has documented the bighammer burning script on the etherpad
07:32:01 <marios> thanks :)
07:32:06 <lifeless> tchaypo: *and tat we need help*
07:32:33 <marios> anything else for discussion?
07:32:44 <marios> otherwise we get an extra half hour for reviews
07:32:46 <marios> :)
07:32:51 <lsmola> yaay :-)
07:33:02 <marios> thanks all for your 'input' ;)
07:33:08 <marios> tchaypo: thanks
07:33:12 <marios> #endmeeting