14:00:26 <marios> #startmeeting tripleo
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14:00:35 <marios> oh noe no bot :D
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14:00:42 <weshay|ruck> line 8
14:01:07 <openstack> marios: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.
14:01:20 <beagles> heh
14:01:21 <marios> ah maybe a delay in my client... ?
14:01:24 <weshay|ruck> sshnaidm, stay on
14:01:32 <marios> #topic agenda
14:01:32 <marios> * Review past action items
14:01:32 <marios> * One off agenda items
14:01:32 <marios> * Bugs & Blueprints
14:01:32 <marios> * Projects releases or stable backports
14:01:34 <marios> * Specs
14:01:37 <marios> * open discussion
14:01:39 <marios> Anyone can use the #link, #action and #info commands, not just the moderatorǃ
14:01:40 <chandankumar> \o/
14:01:42 <marios> Hey folks! who's around?
14:01:44 <beagles> o/
14:01:44 <marios> o/
14:01:47 <rlandy> o/
14:01:49 <cloudnull> O/
14:01:52 <arxcruz|rover> o/
14:01:55 <ramishra> o/
14:01:57 <tkajinam> o/
14:02:05 <mwhahaha> o/
14:02:11 <rfolco|ruck> o>
14:02:30 <marios> #topic one off agenda items
14:02:31 <marios> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items
14:03:01 <weshay|ruck> 0/
14:03:03 <marios> so there are a few items this week - folks do you want to hilight something in particular? please go ahead
14:03:25 <marios> #info     (beagles) the resurrection of designate is underway. More of an FYI at the moment but the immediate goal is to get things "working enough" so we can enable an actual designate test.
14:03:32 <marios> #info     (fultonj) can we merge? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/723108 + https://review.opendev.org/#/c/757644
14:03:56 <fultonj> o/
14:04:05 <marios> #info     16>17 upgrade (standalone and tripleo-upgrade based)
14:04:07 <dciabrin> o/
14:04:11 <slagle> o/
14:04:34 <marios> #info     container sync to quay Arx has also now posted the log where this sync / copy can be viewed.  If you end up hitting an issue when pulling containers from quay, this log would be a good place to poke at.
14:04:37 <beagles> the designate thing pretty much speaks for itself - there's a bit of work to do on it before it makes sense to move it out deployment/experimental
14:04:53 <marios> #info     stable/victoria upgrade jobs are now voting https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-quickstart/+/763005 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-ci/+/760323
14:04:59 <marios> beagles: any links to add there for reviews?
14:05:09 <marios> #info     trying to remove redundant content providers (from upgrade jobs)  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-ci/+/761188/7//COMMIT_MSG
14:05:19 <marios> #info     https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open please review & authors update specs - M1 is 4th December we should be merged (way before) by then.
14:05:28 <marios> #info     stein extended maintenance http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018680.html
14:05:34 <beagles> marios: nothing of note yet
14:05:38 <marios> thanks beagles
14:05:50 <marios> anyone want to hilight something from that list or add anything else ?
14:05:53 <fultonj> regarding the ceph specs
14:06:09 <fultonj> they've had sufficient +2's for 2 weeks
14:06:29 <fultonj> so if it's ok with everyone i'd like for them to be +w'd
14:06:33 <marios> fultonj: agree i think we can merge those . i was going to propose this friday anything that has enough reviews/+2 and no objections will be merged
14:06:40 <fultonj> we're actually close to having one of the implemented
14:06:41 <marios> wrt specs i mean fultonj
14:07:16 <fultonj> marios: ok, thanks. do you want to +w them or should i?
14:07:25 <marios> fultonj: sure go ahead
14:07:48 <marios> fultonj: i think there has been plenty time for objections
14:07:54 <fultonj> thanks will do
14:08:21 <marios> k anything else? reminder you can use https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items to request reviews or hilight any other tripleo related issue you want to in the next meeting
14:09:03 <marios> #topic Bugs & Blueprints
14:09:05 <marios> #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/victoria-1
14:09:22 <marios> arxcruz|rover: rfolco|ruck: are there any known blocking gate issues currently that are worth hilighting?
14:09:32 <fultonj> fmount: gfidente: fyi ^
14:09:57 <marios> any bugs that folks want to bring attention to. anyone blocked by ci issues?
14:10:16 <arxcruz|rover> marios: besides the regex in tripleo-ansible no
14:10:25 <marios> arxcruz|rover: do we have a bug for that?
14:10:29 <rfolco|ruck> we observed some gate issues, let us know if any consistent one
14:10:54 <arxcruz|rover> marios: no, we don't just a patch, we notice yesterday some jobs did not trigger
14:11:04 <marios> k thank you arxcruz|rover and rfolco|ruck for your sevice :D
14:11:07 <arxcruz|rover> investigating today, we found the wrong regex
14:11:29 <ramishra> marios: that launchpad link probably need to change to wallaby-1?
14:11:44 <marios> #info fyi tripleo the CI squad is operating a weekly ruck rover rotation until the end of the year. so you need to look for |ruck and |rover
14:11:47 <marios> ramishra: yes you are right
14:11:51 <marios> ramishra: thanks will update my copy/pasta
14:12:04 <marios> #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/wallaby-1
14:12:40 <marios> then if nothing else on bugs lets move on
14:12:47 <tkajinam> this is not about bug but it seems that the new gerrit has some limitations about integration with LP
14:12:52 <marios> #topic projects releases or stable backports
14:13:11 <tkajinam> sorry was too late to post it :-P
14:13:21 <marios> tkajinam: sec...
14:13:28 <marios> #topic Bugs & Blueprints
14:13:32 <marios> tkajinam: go ahead :D
14:13:58 <tkajinam> AFAIK it doesn't update bug assignee automatically when we submit a fix to gerrit
14:14:05 <tkajinam> and it doesn't put patch link to blueprints
14:14:15 <marios> tkajinam: yes you're right, i saw something on openstack-discuss this morning worth hilighting here
14:14:18 <marios> tkajinam: thanks
14:14:22 <tkajinam> I think the detail is shared in openstack-discuss ml but the above two is worth noting
14:14:29 <marios> tkajinam: apparently it will only update on patch merge
14:14:29 <tkajinam> marios, yeah I saw that mail
14:14:57 <marios> tkajinam: so we have to manually update launchpad until this bug is fixed
14:15:26 <tkajinam> marios, of you fix the bug quickly, before any other guys start working on it ;-)
14:15:28 <marios> #info we need to manually update launchpad on updates to gerrit changes (fixes-bug/related-bug etc) due to bugs in the recent upgrade
14:15:38 <openstackgerrit> Harald Jensås proposed openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Introduce role/instance 'networks' key  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-ansible/+/762160
14:15:50 <marios> thanks tkajinam
14:15:52 <tkajinam> s/of/or/
14:15:53 <tkajinam> np
14:16:00 <marios> anything else folks want to mention re bugs?
14:16:55 <marios> #topic projects releases or stable backports
14:17:15 <marios> as mentioned earlier we have transitioned stein branch to extended maintenance http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018680.html
14:17:34 <marios> the relevant patch merged yesterday https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/762411
14:18:10 <marios> weshay|ruck: and i were discussing the posibility of moving queens and rocky, probably rocky first, to unmaintained
14:18:22 <marios> but i haven't yet put anything into motion
14:18:23 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/tripleo-specs master: Introduce tripleo-ceph-client spec  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-specs/+/757644
14:18:37 <marios> just socialising this for now so folks can shout if they have violent disagreements at this stage
14:18:57 <marios> anything else release/stable related. does anyone need a release for something?
14:19:57 <marios> k then we can move on ...
14:20:08 <marios> #topic specs
14:20:08 <marios> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open
14:20:32 <marios> so m1 is next week and we should merge anything we expect to do in wallaby before then
14:20:50 <marios> i think there have been good reviews on many of the specs at least the ones I saw.
14:21:03 <weshay|ruck> aye.. IMHO it looks like rocky can go
14:21:13 <marios> i propose that we merge anything with enough reviews by this friday. Are there any objections?
14:21:19 <fultonj> cloudnull: planning to merge https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-specs/+/752078 ?
14:21:20 <weshay|ruck> queens tbd
14:21:41 <marios> weshay|ruck: ack we can bring more on that in the open discussion momentarily?
14:22:21 <marios> dsneddon: o/ are you planning on updating https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-specs/+/758249
14:22:26 <marios> dsneddon: there are a few comments there
14:22:59 <marios> so reviewers please update your specs if you want to get them merged by this week? and reviewers please spend some time before friday to review
14:23:22 <marios> #info reviewers please update your specs if you want to get them merged by this friday https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open
14:23:36 <marios> oops i meant proposers :D but i hope you get what i mean
14:23:49 <beagles> :)
14:24:21 <marios> #info please update your specs if you want to get them merged by this friday https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open
14:24:34 <marios> k ... anything else about specs
14:25:08 <marios> fultonj: does this friday work for you?
14:25:21 <fultonj> this friday is a holiday in the US
14:25:31 <marios> fultonj: unless you already +A i mean up to you its OK to just go ahead imo since we have brought up the ceph specs many times
14:25:36 <marios> fultonj: good point forgot about thanksgiving
14:25:51 <marios> fultonj: ack well i will merge what i can if it isn't by friday ... hows that :D
14:25:52 <fultonj> marios: as per our conversation i did the +w
14:25:57 <marios> fultonj: ack
14:26:10 <marios> k moving on then
14:26:25 <openstackgerrit> amolkahat proposed openstack/tripleo-ci master: Removed ubi-8 based jobs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-ci/+/760426
14:26:27 <marios> #topic open discussion
14:26:37 <marios> so anything else folks want to bring up?
14:26:53 <marios> 16:21 < weshay|ruck> aye.. IMHO it looks like rocky can go
14:27:04 <weshay|ruck> aye
14:27:14 <marios> as we discussed weshay|ruck i think we are free to propose rocky tripleo-* things to move to unmaintained or even EOL if we want to
14:27:26 <marios> because we don't use the stable:follows-policy tag anwhere on tripleo repos
14:27:44 <marios> so there shouldn't be a foundation reason to stop us if we decide as a community that is what we need to do
14:27:50 <marios> but i may be wrong about that
14:27:51 <marios> :D
14:27:56 <weshay|ruck> right.. we're saying this because upstream policy allows for it.. for rocky, and there are 0 imports from upstream for rocky
14:28:08 <marios> i guess we will find out once we try to do it
14:28:29 <weshay|ruck> which is a contrast to queens where upstream may be imported again
14:28:32 <weshay|ruck> marios, aye
14:28:32 <marios> so we can socialise it here for now and obviously it will be sent to the openstack-discuss list for discussion objections etc
14:28:38 <weshay|ruck> ++ from me
14:29:28 <marios> fyi if interested https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#maintenance-phases
14:29:55 <beagles> ack there are some plans to get some fixes in to octavia/queens before it closes down but ditching rocky would be a good thing afaiac
14:29:56 <marios> #info possibly moving all tripleo-* stable/rocky to unmaintained or even EOL to be determined
14:30:23 <marios> thanks beagles
14:30:29 <marios> thanks weshay|ruck
14:30:43 <marios> any other topics folks want to bring up
14:30:44 <marios> ?
14:31:30 <marios> then all that remains is to say thanks to all for participating
14:31:37 <marios> #endmeeting tripleo