14:00:00 <marios|ruck|call> #startmeeting tripleo
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14:00:11 <marios|ruck|call> #topic agenda
14:00:11 <marios|ruck|call> * Review last minutes & action items
14:00:11 <marios|ruck|call> * One off agenda items
14:00:11 <marios|ruck|call> * Bugs & Blueprints
14:00:11 <marios|ruck|call> * Projects releases or stable backports
14:00:13 <marios|ruck|call> * Specs
14:00:16 <marios|ruck|call> * open discussion
14:00:18 <marios|ruck|call> Anyone can use the #link, #action and #info commands, not just the moderatorǃ
14:00:31 <marios|ruck|call> hello TripleO good morning afternoon evening o/ who is around today?
14:00:43 <jlarriba> o/
14:00:53 <tkajinam> o/
14:01:18 <marios|ruck> well fantastic then :) hello folks
14:01:19 <slagle> hi
14:01:22 <jbadiapa> hi
14:01:24 <marios|ruck> lets start and folks catch up as always ;)
14:01:33 <marios|ruck> #topic review last meeting logs & action items
14:01:43 <marios|ruck> #link https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tripleo/2021/tripleo.2021-06-08-14.00.html
14:01:50 <ysandeep> o/
14:01:59 <marios|ruck> anyone want to hilight something from the last meeting?
14:02:10 * marios|ruck checks minutes
14:02:45 <marios|ruck> stein/queens thing will be covered again today
14:02:46 <opendevreview> Harald Jensås proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/wallaby: Fix NetworkDeploymentActionValue format  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/+/797455
14:03:03 <marios|ruck> moving on ...
14:03:19 <marios|ruck> #topic one off agenda items
14:03:22 <marios|ruck> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items
14:03:35 <opendevreview> Harald Jensås proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/victoria: Fix NetworkDeploymentActionValue format  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/+/797456
14:03:47 <marios|ruck> not many topics today so feel free to add your stuff in the etherpad
14:03:51 <marios|ruck> taking them in order as always
14:04:01 <marios|ruck> from CI team cc weshay|ruck o/
14:04:07 <marios|ruck> CI team to update containers-multinode and ovb jobs to use
14:04:13 <marios|ruck> https://opendev.org/openstack/tripleo-operator-ansible/src/branch/master/roles/tripleo_overcloud_deploy
14:04:20 <opendevreview> Harald Jensås proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/ussuri: Fix NetworkDeploymentActionValue format  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/+/797457
14:04:31 <marios|ruck> we should use the operator for deploying the overcloud
14:04:38 <marios|ruck> i recall some work around this but it seems it wasn't completed
14:04:44 <opendevreview> Harald Jensås proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/train: Fix NetworkDeploymentActionValue format  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/+/797458
14:04:46 <marios|ruck> is someone aware of a technical reason for that?
14:04:55 <marios|ruck> the ci team will be looking into it (soon) ;)
14:05:22 <marios|ruck> weshay|ruck (or anyone else) : want to add anything here?
14:05:56 <marios|ruck> k moving on to the second item, i believe from arxcruz o/ hello please go ahead?
14:06:20 <eagles> o/
14:06:39 <marios|ruck> #info     Refactoring tripleo-repos     https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-repos/+/794801
14:07:05 <arxcruz> marios|ruck: sure
14:07:10 <marios|ruck> i believe arxcruz added this for information. as part of our work on tripleo-repos arxcruz is looking at converting to use cliff
14:07:20 <marios|ruck> arxcruz: o/
14:07:22 <arxcruz> marios|ruck: so, we are planning to add cliff support on tripleo-repos
14:07:35 <arxcruz> this will enable us to add more commands like the yum module, and the get hash
14:07:53 <arxcruz> so, I ask for cores to take a look, right now, is just a refactor, and it doesn't change the functionality
14:08:10 <arxcruz> but add the layer of compatibility to us have more modules in the future
14:09:17 <marios|ruck> k thank arxcruz anyone have any questions or comments about that?
14:10:05 <marios|ruck> k moving on ...
14:10:16 <marios|ruck> new item on specs... dvd is that you?
14:10:19 <marios|ruck> please go ahead/
14:10:32 <marios|ruck> #info         libvirt decontainerization feedback     https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-specs/+/797288
14:10:36 <dvd> yes
14:10:48 <dvd> so we have good feedback so far about that spec
14:11:07 <marios|ruck> dvd: so this was posted yesterday?
14:11:09 <dvd> and I just wanted to bring it to the community's attention and get even more feedback
14:11:14 <dvd> yes
14:11:26 <marios|ruck> dvd: i recall the conversation in ptg... can you remind me which session it was in (i.e. that we reached this conclusion)
14:11:45 <dvd> oh that's a good question, I think it was on Wednesday iirc
14:11:57 <marios|ruck> dvd: k i can go look it up we should have links in the spec
14:12:10 <dvd> I have a working PoC where we pull the config_settings into a libvirt base template
14:12:15 <marios|ruck> dvd: main concern before even reading it is the timing ... are you aiming for implementation in X?
14:12:28 <dvd> that base template can be sourced in either a container deployment or non-container
14:12:34 <dvd> marios|ruck, yes
14:13:04 <marios|ruck> dvd: k we should try and get feedback and agreement on the spec asap in this case
14:13:05 <dvd> so it should be pretty easy to switch from either deployment type
14:13:16 <dvd> marios|ruck, yup, that's why I posted here
14:13:24 <dvd> I also need to look into an upgrade path
14:13:31 <marios|ruck> mwhahaha: cloudnull: Tengu: slagle: (deployment framework) please can you add that to your reviews queue https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-specs/+/797288 i see bogdando has already commented
14:13:50 <marios|ruck> oh so has alex
14:13:50 <dvd> should we decontainerize libvirt on upgrade?
14:14:06 <dvd> or we leave it as is
14:14:11 <mwhahaha> it's not a DF thing, squads can do whatever they want
14:14:17 <mwhahaha> you'd want to decontainer on upgrade
14:14:17 <marios|ruck> and have a seperate 'migration' afterwards you mean dvd ?
14:14:53 <dvd> marios|ruck, can you clarify separate migration please?
14:14:55 <marios|ruck> dvd: i guess it ultimately depends on the upgrades team but if there is a way to do it during the upgrade might be OK. Another approach is to do the migration before (with a minor update or even standalone migration) and then upgrade with non containerized
14:15:28 <marios|ruck> dvd: i mean have steps that move it to non containerized - e.g. during a minor update or as a standlone stack update operation
14:15:48 <dvd> ack, ideally that would be during the normal upgrade/update
14:16:12 <slagle> i'll take a look
14:16:16 <dvd> thanks
14:16:42 <marios|ruck> k thanks dvd any other comments or questions about this topic?
14:16:55 <dvd> I'm good with this
14:17:02 <dvd> thanks for your time yall
14:17:24 <marios|ruck> k thanks dvd... moving on
14:17:38 <marios|ruck> couple of community topics both of which were raised in the last 2 irc meetings here
14:17:56 <marios|ruck> as we said at the time, we have proposed the items on the mailing list for further comments and discussion
14:18:02 <marios|ruck> #info [tripleo] Changing TripleO's release model  http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-June/022959.html  Wesley Hayutin Tue Jun 8 15:19:07 UTC 2021
14:18:29 <marios|ruck> that one about moving to the independent release model... there has been some discussion on the list but no-one raised any "blockers" yet far as i can see
14:18:41 <marios|ruck> any comments or questions about this one ?
14:19:55 <marios|ruck> ok, i think we'll leave the discussion open for a few more days, and if there is nothing further we can consider proposing it against the releases repo next week or so...
14:20:17 <marios|ruck> second topic is less controversial we have planned it since last cycle when we did the same for rocky:
14:20:22 <marios|ruck> #info [TripleO] moving stable/stein and stable/queens to End of Life http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-June/023115.html Marios Andreou Wed Jun 16 15:19:04 UTC 2021
14:20:32 <marios|ruck> moving stein and queens to EOL
14:20:39 <marios|ruck> meaning we can no longer merge things to those branches
14:20:47 <marios|ruck> if this is a problem for you then please speak up
14:21:03 <marios|ruck> as commented in the email though, both branches have had very low traffic this cycle
14:21:22 <marios|ruck> so we can't justify the resources we spend on them for gate/check/periodics
14:21:34 <marios|ruck> comments or questions or concerns about this one?
14:22:03 <tkajinam> just a note. we should drop tripleo jobs from puppet repos when we EoL TripleO Stein
14:22:24 <marios|ruck> tkajinam: ack thanks - maybe you can help me to remember to do that :)
14:22:54 <tkajinam> marios|ruck, sure :-)
14:23:03 <marios|ruck> tkajinam: and to be clear you mean stein and queens right? i guess you have jobs in both?
14:23:18 <tkajinam> IIRC we don't have tripleo jobs for puppet queens
14:23:31 <tkajinam> tripleo jobs were added during Rocky I guess
14:23:31 <marios|ruck> tkajinam: ah ok
14:23:44 <marios|ruck> tkajinam: ack
14:23:51 <tkajinam> tripleo jobs were already removed from rocky so doing the same for stein would be enough
14:23:59 <tkajinam> unless I have any misunderstanding. I'll double check it
14:24:08 <marios|ruck> tkajinam: ack thank you for mentioning it
14:24:15 <marios|ruck> anything else from anyone on this topic before we move on?
14:24:52 <marios|ruck> k thank you folks moving on the the rest of the agenda at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO looks like we will finish early today ;)
14:25:12 <marios|ruck> #topic Bugs and blueprints
14:25:12 <marios|ruck> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/
14:25:12 <marios|ruck> #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/openstack/tripleo-ansible
14:25:12 <marios|ruck> #link  https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/xena-1
14:25:13 <marios|ruck> #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/xena
14:25:28 <weshay|ruck> 0/
14:25:34 <marios|ruck> so I have to move our xena-1 things to xena-2 :D i missed that from a couple weeks ago
14:25:50 <marios|ruck> i will deal with that today hopefully after this meeting unless some ruck|rover emergency happens ;)
14:26:06 <marios|ruck> any other bugs or blueprints someone wants to mention
14:26:26 <marios|ruck> i don't know of any gate blockers today, except that one https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1933193 but it is blocker for tripleo-ci only
14:26:41 <marios|ruck> otherwise our upstream check/gate is not bad but lets not dwell on that too much ;!
14:26:45 <marios|ruck> moving on...
14:27:04 <opendevreview> Alex Schultz proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Add Ephemeral Heat Images service  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/+/796617
14:27:10 <marios|ruck> #topic Project releases or stable backports
14:27:10 <marios|ruck> #info tripleo wallaby repos https://releases.openstack.org/teams/tripleo.html#wallaby#topic Project releases or stable backports
14:27:17 <marios|ruck> #info tripleo wallaby repos https://releases.openstack.org/teams/tripleo.html#wallaby
14:27:32 <marios|ruck> i made releases of all the branches a couple of weeks ago, so we'll be due for another round in a couple of weeks...
14:27:36 <marios|ruck> unless there are special requests
14:27:41 <marios|ruck> anyone need something released?
14:28:31 <marios|ruck> k moving on ...
14:28:53 <marios|ruck> #topic specs
14:28:54 <marios|ruck> #info https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs
14:29:00 <marios|ruck> #info https://opendev.org/openstack/tripleo-specs/src/branch/master/specs/xena
14:29:18 <marios|ruck> apart from the libvirt spec that dvd already mentioned i see another new one
14:29:27 <marios|ruck> from ramishra https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-specs/+/796619
14:29:57 <marios|ruck> anyone have any information about that? ramishra want to highlight somethign about the spec?
14:30:07 <marios|ruck> ramishra: again same concern as the one from dvd regarding time for X
14:30:47 <marios|ruck> also that one from Tengu https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-specs/+/733652
14:31:44 <marios|ruck> well please try and review those specs folks asap ^^^
14:31:55 <marios|ruck> anything else about specs someone wants to bring up?
14:32:23 <opendevreview> Jiri Podivin proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Restoration of the 'export_passwords' exclusion  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-tripleoclient/+/797461
14:32:56 <marios|ruck> ok then finally
14:32:57 <marios|ruck> #topic open discussion
14:32:57 <marios|ruck> Anything else that folks want to bring up to the meeting?
14:33:37 <marios|ruck> one thing on my mind is that we are almost at mid X and I think it would be a good time for folks to start thinking about stepping forward to be PTL for the Y cycle
14:33:50 <marios|ruck> X is my second PTL cycle, i think we have a lot of folks around that could do this
14:34:00 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Neutron: Remove unused NeutronMechanismDrivers from dhcp-agent template  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/+/795316
14:34:02 <marios|ruck> and it isn't healthy for the same person to do it too many cycles in a row
14:34:16 <marios|ruck> so if anyone is interested please feel free to reach out to me with any questions.
14:34:26 <marios|ruck> i'll bring this up again obviously and on the list, but mentioning it now it is a bit 'early'
14:34:39 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Simplify libvirt/qemu ssl certificates  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/+/789718
14:34:46 <jbadiapa> marios|ruck: I have a question. Does anyone try to restart overcloud nodes recently?
14:34:56 <marios|ruck> my intention is not to run again for Y to be clear
14:35:41 <marios|ruck> jbadiapa: i'm sure someone has ;) but i guess you are having some specific issue - do you have a bug or somethign to point to?
14:35:53 <jbadiapa> I saw that the overcloud nodes does get the network properly
14:36:07 <jbadiapa> yes, give me a sec
14:36:20 <jbadiapa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1932143
14:36:27 <slagle> marios|ruck: thanks for stepping up as ptl!
14:36:40 <marios|ruck> jbadiapa: is it master? looking at bug
14:36:44 <marios|ruck> thank you slagle :)
14:37:35 <jbadiapa> yes, it's master
14:37:51 <marios|ruck> jbadiapa: bit hard to tell what the error is but you are saying some config is missing after reboot i think
14:37:56 <jbadiapa> -R tripleo-master-ci when I deployed with tripleo-quickstart
14:38:03 <opendevreview> Shnaidman Sagi (Sergey) proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Add github PR change from commit message  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras/+/797463
14:38:20 <marios|ruck> jbadiapa: so it might be related to the recent network v2 and/or ephemeral heat work
14:39:22 <marios|ruck> hjensas: and slagle can you please check https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1932143 and see if something comes to mind? after reboot the overcloud nodes one of the interfaces is down
14:39:25 <jbadiapa> my question was a little bit ahead of that...because there is no jobs that are checking the restart of a overcloud node as far as I know
14:40:14 <jbadiapa> I'm not sure whether would be interesting to have
14:40:23 <mwhahaha> we can't do reboots in upstream ci
14:40:30 <marios|ruck> jbadiapa: yeah we don't have such jobs upstream and i don't know if we *can* have them ie. if we can reboot one of the nodepool machines and have it keep that state
14:40:43 <mwhahaha> we do test reboots downstream and i think it might be a quickstart specific thing
14:41:37 <marios|ruck> k any other comments or questions about this or any other topic?
14:41:51 <slagle> doesn't look familiar to me. cloud-init is causing the issue
14:42:00 <marios|ruck> thanks for checking slagle
14:42:35 <jbadiapa> thanks, nothing else from my side
14:42:41 <marios|ruck> k closing it out if there is nothing else in 1 minute ;)
14:42:45 <marios|ruck> thank you jbadiapa
14:43:26 <marios|ruck> thanks folks, next meeting in 2 weeks
14:43:42 <marios|ruck> #info next meeting tuesday 06 July @1400 UTC
14:43:50 <marios|ruck> #endmeeting tripleo
14:43:59 <marios|ruck> ah do i have to be the same nick :)
14:44:04 <marios|ruck|call> #endmeeting tripleo