17:59:00 #startmeeting trove 17:59:01 Meeting started Wed Jun 4 17:59:00 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:59:06 The meeting name has been set to 'trove' 17:59:11 o/ 17:59:18 o/ 17:59:26 o/ 17:59:32 jumping the gun there SlickNik ? 18:00:26 just giving folks a couple of extra minutes to arrive. :) 18:00:29 o/ 18:00:36 o/ 18:00:41 i know we have a big agenda for today 18:01:11 o/ 18:01:22 o/ 18:01:30 o/ 18:01:31 Yeah, agenda at: 18:01:32 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting#Agenda_for_Jun_4 18:01:38 o/ 18:02:10 Previous meeting summary: 18:02:10 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-05-28-18.00.html 18:02:17 o/ 18:02:20 o/ 18:02:30 o_ 18:02:38 Okay let's get started. 18:02:44 #topic Action Items 18:02:48 o_, 18:02:59 just one here: 18:03:03 yup 18:03:04 cp16net make etherpad for breaking up the modules for log auditing bug 18:03:11 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1324206 18:03:12 Launchpad bug 1324206 in trove "audit logging levels" [Low,New] 18:03:15 couple links 18:03:27 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Juno-Trove-audit-logging-levels 18:03:43 so i wrote this up and dougshelley66 started on some of this 18:04:06 yes - schang, peterstac and I have signed up for some 18:04:06 man that todo person has a lot of work! 18:04:54 Sounds good. Thanks for signing up, dougshelley66, peterstac and changsimon 18:05:08 cp16net - we should make sure we are all on the same page w.r.t. the use of the i18n stuff 18:05:17 thanks for looking at this dougshelley66 and schang and peterstac 18:05:35 I'm going to try and recruit aginghipster to look at some of this too. :) 18:05:55 nice 18:06:09 that is the awesomest handle ever 18:06:44 cp16net: Thanks for the follow up. Anything else to add? 18:06:55 dougshelley66: yeah we should make sure of that 18:07:15 SlickNik: i dont think so 18:07:24 cp16net: should we finalize that discussion here? 18:07:30 so everyone sees it? 18:07:41 dougshelley66: that might not be a bad idea 18:08:07 cp16net: go for it 18:08:09 what is the differences you are seeing? 18:08:15 #Topic i18n discussion 18:08:33 so the logging standards doc talks about the use of _LE(), _LI() etc 18:08:47 but i don't think we believe these are "baked" yet 18:08:50 OH... 18:08:52 right 18:09:14 where are these topics coming from? 18:09:21 so the log translation page was talking about using _LI() _LW _LE _LC 18:09:41 kevinconway: follow up from the follow up of action items from prev meeting 18:09:50 i could not determine yesterday what benifit they have for the translation 18:10:00 kevinconway: they are coming from the common incubator 18:10:12 gettext changes 18:10:25 #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/openstack/common/gettextutils.py#n133 18:10:48 i saw that denis_makogon added a review to pull in these updates 18:10:49 denis_makogon has this change set https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97472/ 18:11:07 which is fine but i dont think its nesseary to make these changes globally 18:11:25 if it comes to be an issue later we can go back and change it 18:11:42 but i dont think there is a precedent set yet for this 18:12:05 i'd just rather not mandate something thats not really used any where 18:12:32 right so the proposal is to continue using _() 18:12:36 yes 18:12:45 cp16net: that sounds good to me. 18:12:47 any concerns about that decision 18:12:49 I have a question related to this ... 18:13:14 in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77551/ (for example) I requested denis_makogon make some changes to localize strings which didn't use _() 18:13:22 I had suggested he use _LE() ... etc., 18:13:34 I'm assuming that reviewers are still to identify strings which aren't localized 18:13:40 and suggest using _() 18:13:43 is that correct? 18:14:01 or do we expect this independent project to go find all strings and periodically _()'ize them? 18:14:07 18:14:36 amrith: i believe we are saying that it is too soon to switch to those _LE etc notations 18:14:40 amrith: there is a script that creates the po files for locaization 18:14:56 and more specifically, that anyone working on the logging audit shouldn't do that 18:15:22 amrith: So reviewers should still look out for string that are localizable and point them out if they're not using _() 18:15:46 amrith: I believe we're saying that we're not mandating to use _LE() though. 18:15:58 ok, thanks SlickNik 18:16:05 SlickNik: what is the short term review verdict if someone uses _LE() etc? 18:16:09 (and dougshelley66 and cp16net ) 18:16:58 I think the short term verdict is that they would need to wait until the oslo gettextutils sync merges. 18:17:26 ok so after that gets merged is it ok for people to start using those new notations? 18:17:32 yeah it would break otherwise 18:17:45 cp16net: ? 18:18:53 I think so. We probably have to verify (as part of the merge, perhaps) that the new way is working. 18:19:00 i think it would be fine but its not something we should -1 about 18:19:09 ok thx 18:19:15 sounds good. 18:19:41 Thanks guys. Let's move on. 18:19:46 ok we beat this one down 18:19:48 #Topic Juno-1 release to be cut next week 18:20:00 seems so soon 18:20:07 So we're gonna be tagging the Juno-1 milestone next week. 18:20:12 yeah, my hangover is just wearing off 18:20:14 aww yea 18:20:34 SlickNik: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/list-datastore-type-and-versions needs to be tagged 18:20:36 lol 18:20:54 So can you guys go through your bugs and bp and make sure things are tagged correctly. 18:21:24 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/juno-1 18:21:28 ok 18:21:36 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-troveclient/+milestone/juno-1 18:21:44 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove-integration/+milestone/juno-1 18:21:54 oh boy 18:21:56 If there's something that should be there and isn't showing up, let me know. 18:22:26 or if you cant change the bug/bp let us know 18:22:38 Beginning next week, I'm going to be bulk moving a lot of the items that are not going to be completed in Juno-1 to Juno-2 18:22:46 i should say let SlickNik know ;-P 18:22:58 Yes, send me a note on IRC :) 18:23:46 SlickNik: when you "next week" is there a day its going to happen? 18:24:03 cp16net: different projects are doing it on different days. 18:24:09 ok 18:24:19 cp16net: sometime between Tuesday and Thursday. 18:24:25 gotcha 18:24:45 I was planing on getting it done early on Tuesday. 18:24:55 ok 18:25:04 thanks for the heads up 18:25:22 Okay, that's all I had on this. 18:25:38 #topic Open Discussion 18:26:30 Anything else? 18:26:38 yes, a quick question 18:26:47 could someone share a link for this new workflow thing? 18:27:07 in review's 18:27:20 I've seen some people set it but I'm not sure what it means 18:27:39 amrith: the -1 on workflow? 18:27:46 cp16net ... yes 18:27:51 and it's twin, the +1 18:28:10 right its used for "work in progress" 18:28:15 amrith: Workflow −1 = Work in Progress, 0 = Ready for review, +1=Approved 18:28:29 there ya go thanks SlickNik 18:28:37 so, if a developer submits a patch set and after review he/she sets it to -1 18:28:43 does it mean not yet ready for review? 18:29:01 right the developer has the control of that 18:29:07 yeah it means you are still working on it 18:29:08 amrith: yes, that means they're aware they still need to make changes to the review, and are working on it. 18:29:15 OK, thanks 18:29:15 useful if u want to show early work on a patch 18:29:27 even though its not ready yet 18:29:32 or make a patch show its age 18:29:34 :-P 18:29:39 ok, cool 18:29:54 I guess one can safely update the search filter to include workflow != -1 ;) 18:30:35 thanks 18:30:37 nothing more from me 18:30:51 Np, thank you! 18:30:55 Anything else? 18:31:17 *crickets* 18:31:19 #endmeeting