18:01:01 #startmeeting Trove 18:01:02 Meeting started Wed Oct 15 18:01:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:01:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:01:05 The meeting name has been set to 'trove' 18:01:11 o/ 18:01:14 o/ 18:01:15 o/ 18:01:18 o/ 18:01:31 I'll give folks a couple of minutes to filter in. 18:01:36 o/ 18:01:38 expect to start at :02 18:02:14 . 18:03:58 ok, let's get started 18:04:00 seems like waiting for Robert to appear 18:04:11 SlickNik isn't here today and I offered to run the meeting 18:04:29 Meeting agenda at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting 18:04:40 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting 18:04:42 o/ 18:04:54 and since robert is here now, let's get on with the first item 18:04:58 sorry 18:05:04 forgot to join 18:05:10 #topic Discuss the timing of trove-guestagent refactoring. 18:05:18 robertmyers, the floor is yours 18:05:20 o/ 18:05:28 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119425/ 18:05:46 so basically the idea to move the guest to its own module 18:06:02 that will cause problems with reviews in flight 18:06:23 so I wanted to talk about priorities 18:06:38 what should we merge first/second 18:06:40 etc 18:07:07 there's a problem 18:07:14 robertmyers, do you have a recommendation? 18:07:24 we still don't know actual road map for this release 18:07:44 amrith: merge the move first :) 18:08:07 so we can only predict about priorities taking into account Nikhil's PTL letter 18:08:08 OK, is this part of the change or the whole change (I assume it is part of the change) 18:08:09 but that is selfish of me 18:08:09 o/ 18:08:42 amrith: this is just the first part 18:08:49 making a new module 18:08:58 so, this change, at this stage, is not ready to merge. 18:09:05 it (at least) needs a rebase 18:09:15 true 18:09:21 * nikhil_k finds name tagged. Hoping is not the Nikhil in question. 18:09:33 but the more we merge the harder it will be to mantain it 18:09:35 nikhil_k, sorry, no 18:09:37 I feel like this is one of those changes that will always need a rebase until the day it gets merged. :p 18:09:38 different nikhil 18:09:42 :) 18:09:46 I did a rebase this morning, and now the int test fails. Working on the issue now. 18:10:10 yes it will have a lot of rebase issues 18:10:22 robertmyers, I think the approach you are advocating is one where you get close enough and want all other merges to hold for a bit while you drop this, yes? 18:10:24 So rather than just continually doing that 18:10:27 I think that is workable. 18:10:33 amrithyes 18:10:50 I think we all agree we should do this. I think now its just about messaging to everyone when to expect the pain. :) 18:10:57 when do you anticipate being at that point? are all review comments done at this point, is it at the point where you think it is good to go. 18:11:16 modulo fixing whatever ails int tests now 18:11:28 amrith: I think after the tests pass it should be good 18:11:38 unless someone finds a big issue 18:11:58 Could I get a couple of core reviewers to take a crack at it. it should be straightforward but having you look at it would be good. 18:12:02 grapex, have you reviewed it? 18:12:12 I'm assuming yes? 18:12:25 robertmyers: can you provide the link to the review for this? Would like to take a look 18:12:33 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119425/ 18:12:40 amrith: I only looked at its last incarnation 18:12:44 I can review 18:12:47 grapex, that's fine 18:12:51 oh yes you already did. thank you 18:12:53 I assumed you had 18:13:02 and were working with robert and simon on this 18:13:14 I'll look at it as well, it seems like just a move at this point 18:13:14 I did, months and month ago. But there's no point unless we all agree we're ready to do this 18:13:32 Yeah we sort of tabled it waiting for kilo 18:13:44 as this is a big change :) 18:13:45 rmyers: and you're pinky-swearing to us that you aren't also added a bunch of tiny refactorings that you've always wanted, right? ;) 18:14:04 grapex: maybe 18:14:12 robertmyers: Oh you 18:14:15 :) 18:14:19 so, here's a proposal. Let's all take a look at the change and put our comments in. 18:14:33 schang, robertmyers you'll handle the current issues with gte 18:14:35 gate 18:14:39 sure 18:14:45 o/ Sorry folks, on the road today, so will be on and off IRC. 18:14:54 * SlickNik reads scrollback 18:15:06 amrith: yes I will 18:15:07 at the point where this is approaching touchdown, I'm ok with the notion of giving you a clear window to merge this change. 18:15:52 amcrn, you here? 18:15:56 ok, so maybe we should look and see if any other reviews should go in soon 18:16:02 SlickNik: Don't IRC and drive 18:16:03 yes, there is one 18:16:10 like log messsages 18:16:13 and that is one of amcrn's that is sitting around 18:16:19 and I have one (log messages for redis) 18:16:30 SlickNik: Just say no to FreeNode on the open road 18:16:31 a quick look at outstanding reviews pointed me to those. 18:16:42 maybe we can approve those to clear the way for this change 18:16:49 ++ I think this is repaying valuable technical debt, so if we need to quiesce reviews for a little bit to get this in, I'm all for it. 18:16:50 I'll work with amcrn to get the clustering one in; his needs a rebase 18:17:01 my redis change is pending CI 18:17:05 otherwise good to go. 18:17:20 We will give you a clear running room to merge this change after those. 18:17:23 ok? 18:18:07 schang, robertmyers, please keep me in the loop on the progress and we'll make this work. 18:18:16 amrith: will do 18:18:17 amrith: ok 18:18:26 all: please take a minute to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119425/ 18:18:28 tite 18:18:31 get your comments in soon 18:19:07 . 18:19:25 . 18:19:32 ok, hearing nothing further 18:19:39 #topic Open Discussion 18:20:22 anyone ... 18:20:27 if there's nothing more, i'd like to remind, again, about reviewing specs 18:20:33 Amrith: do we we have a list of topics for the summit. 18:20:44 I dont see anything on the etherpad yet 18:21:12 johnma, I will follow-up with SlickNik on the topics for summit 18:21:21 ok, thanks. 18:21:31 Folks need to start adding proposals that they have. 18:21:33 johnma, we're free to propose topics and core team will decide what to take 18:21:59 I have a couple I plan to add to the etherpad, and will do that by this weekend. 18:22:00 ... see, I told you I'd follow-up with SlickNik ... 18:22:08 :) 18:22:42 i'd like to ask core team to review specs, since they are hanging already too long 18:22:46 But let's plan on going through the proposals during next weeks meeting. 18:22:57 so the topic that we propose, can they be topics we are interested in hearing more about or are they more in the line of topics we want to present 18:23:21 johnma, I'd say both 18:23:28 ok, sounds good 18:23:31 please indicate which is which 18:23:39 sure 18:23:46 johnma: Yes, if you're planning on driving a session please mention your name / nick as the driver. 18:24:09 sure, will do. 18:24:15 or if you want to put someone else on the spot put their name 18:24:18 :-P 18:24:18 SlickNik, I'm adding this review of proposals to next weeks meeting 18:24:37 amrith: ++ Thanks! 18:25:38 on the side I have couple of blueprints I need to write. When I have them ready, I guess I need to bring it up during the Monday meetings, am I right. I am not sure whether I have been missing those or whether we havent been having them lately 18:25:41 #action ALL update etherpad for summit sessions, indicate which ones you'd like to lead or listen. (nominate cp16net for all other sessions) 18:26:33 does anyone have a link to the etherpad handy 18:26:45 lol 18:26:47 yes https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-trove-summit-topics 18:26:51 amrith: <3 18:26:53 johnma, re: bp's yes. please put them on the monday meeting agenda 18:27:14 i like the topic of '<' 18:27:39 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-trove-summit-topics 18:27:51 johnma, please note that the BP process is subtly different from last cycle 18:28:13 for an example, please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123571/ 18:28:25 or ping me after the meeting and I'll give you more details 18:28:30 Amrith: ok, I will take a look at it 18:28:35 sure, sounds good 18:29:29 . 18:29:32 johnma: Be wary of the template.rst in the root directory if it's still there - you want to start with the one in the specs directory. 18:29:50 vgnbkr, ++ 18:30:21 ok, sure. Thanks alot. appreciate the feedback 18:30:52 vgnbkr, it appears to have been deleted 18:31:22 . 18:31:43 anyone have other topics for open discussion ... 18:32:16 . 18:32:33 . 18:32:49 ... going once ... 18:33:11 ... going twice ... 18:33:27 #endmeeting