14:00:08 <zhaochao> #startmeeting trove
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14:00:19 <zhaochao> #topic roll call
14:00:37 <gang> hi
14:00:43 <zhaochao> gang: hi
14:02:14 <zhaochao> let's wait a few more minutes for others to join us
14:02:22 <fanzhang> o/
14:02:37 <fanzhang> long time no see:)
14:02:40 <zhaochao> fanzhang: hi
14:02:57 <wangyao> hi
14:03:07 <zhaochao> wangyao: hi
14:04:14 <zhaochao> :) today we're having a bigger gathering, let's start
14:04:34 <zhaochao> #topic Rocky goal updates
14:05:12 <zhaochao> we still don't have many new patches last week
14:05:38 <zhaochao> for the trove repo, we have one backport to the queens branch
14:05:46 <zhaochao> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580584/
14:06:48 <zhaochao> we also have 5 different issues for the queens branch, and 3 of them should be squashed into one commit to satisfy the CI
14:07:22 <zhaochao> and it's finally working now, please also help to review on that patch
14:07:44 <zhaochao> I'll add the stable-maint group to the reviewers list later
14:08:21 <fanzhang> I saw some patches of you guys,but got no time to review in the past two weeks. Will try tomorrow:)
14:08:22 <zhaochao> troveclient
14:08:45 <zhaochao> fanzhang: good news, thanks, :)
14:09:38 <zhaochao> troveclient, I just found wangyao_ has submit a new patch for OSC, thanks, I'll help review on that
14:09:53 <zhaochao> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581710/
14:10:40 <zhaochao> and the Zuul v3 migration which has been there for about 3 months
14:11:13 <zhaochao> so I add a wf+1 last week(or the week before last)
14:11:25 <zhaochao> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561936/
14:11:26 <wangyao_> zhangchao thanks, Because there is no test environment, the correctness is not known. Please help review it
14:11:37 <wangyao_> zhangchao-->zhaochao
14:12:08 <zhaochao> however there is a new issue in troveclient py27 test
14:12:34 <zhaochao> wangyao_: thanks for the work, will review asap
14:13:04 <zhaochao> and I also got a patch for the troveclient py27 test
14:13:09 <gang> Today, I try to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581210/ , but not familiar with buildins (:
14:13:11 <zhaochao> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581210/
14:13:39 <zhaochao> gang: thanks, did you reproduce the problem
14:14:27 <gang> zhaochao: no, I did't do the reproduce work
14:14:52 <wangyao_> I got that problem about 'test_module_create' when did tox
14:15:54 <zhaochao> gang: for simple test, would just install the python-future package and test to import builtins module
14:16:23 <zhaochao> gang: and then try to mock 'builtins.open', just simulate how the test_module_create test runs
14:17:00 <zhaochao> wangyao_: yes, the problem will be fixed by the 'correctly mocking builtin open ...' patch
14:17:40 <zhaochao> OK, that's what'new in our main repos
14:17:41 <gang> zhaochao: OK, tomorow I will try. I could just use the tox just wangyao said.
14:17:44 <wangyao_> so we should merge this patch as soon as possible
14:17:55 <zhaochao> gang: thanks
14:18:17 <zhaochao> wangyao_: yes, please help review the patch if you have time
14:18:39 <wangyao_> will do
14:19:02 <zhaochao> for the python3 first patches, I did some first investigations before
14:19:08 <zhaochao> wangyao_: thanks
14:19:38 <zhaochao> and it turns out that we may have to do some 'not small' changes to troveclient to get things work
14:20:26 <zhaochao> however I'm afraid I don't have much time on that, if the bandwith permits, I'll continue on that
14:21:39 <zhaochao> but for python 3 first in troveclient repo itself, the patch looks like simple, I'll try to got that one merged recently
14:22:43 <zhaochao> OK, that's all about the updates in the last week from my side
14:23:03 <zhaochao> we have 2 weeks left for the rocky-3
14:23:15 <zhaochao> do you have any updates?
14:24:24 <zhaochao> fanzhang: do you have time to continue on the file injection bp?
14:25:11 <fanzhang> Seems like the bp could not be finished in this cycle. I could do some framework things, but it may be little rough
14:26:32 <wangyao_> I will try submit two or three patches about ocs
14:27:13 <zhaochao> fanzhang: OK, I think that's fine, if you think it's ready to submit the patches for review, please do, but I think we can wait for more time
14:27:32 <zhaochao> wangyao_: that will be great, thanks
14:28:33 <gang> Recently I try to take advantage of extended_properties to update my previous commit about mongodb configserver volume size and qutoas volume size. Maybe this can be as a part of cluster supoorting job.
14:31:23 <zhaochao> gang: I recalled about that patch, this?
14:31:28 <zhaochao> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536684/
14:32:24 <gang> Yes, this patch.
14:33:04 <gang> And also intend to add extended_properties into trove cluster-create  in troveclient repo, well, if possible
14:33:56 <gang> Since we have support this parameters but never used before.
14:34:27 <zhaochao> gang: that would be great, it's great to see we could make progress on that, :)
14:34:43 <wangyao_> Sounds great. Come on gang
14:35:05 <fanzhang> 👍🏼
14:35:32 <gang> :) hope could make some progress under this cycle.
14:36:01 <zhaochao> o, that's a sad topic
14:36:28 <zhaochao> I think we may have finished the updates topic, let's move to the open discussion
14:36:43 <zhaochao> #topic Open discussion
14:37:59 <zhaochao> it's now near the end of rocky cycle, we have 60~70 commits for all trove repos
14:38:50 <zhaochao> comparing to queens, the number was 240+
14:39:44 <wangyao_> Major general nearly four times:(
14:40:22 <wangyao_> Nearly four times less
14:40:35 <fanzhang> Em, there are lots of reasons, we cannot blame on ourselves.
14:40:46 <zhaochao> yes
14:41:01 <zhaochao> many OpenStack projects have similar problems
14:41:30 <gang> The number of contributers is less than Queens.
14:41:56 <zhaochao> so the question is, do you have some thoughts about the direction of Trove under the current situation
14:42:54 <wangyao_> remain stable, reduce new feature development~
14:42:56 <zhaochao> gang: yes, I did draw some charts about these numbers in the Openinfra speech
14:44:28 <zhaochao> wangyao_: in some way, trove is quite 'stable', no many big features were brought in for several years now
14:44:50 <fanzhang> It seems nova, cinder and neutron is still active, some other pals and Saas projects are losing contributions. because we don’t have users’ requirements , I don’t have a clear direction what we should be working towards
14:45:09 <fanzhang> Paas
14:46:05 <zhaochao> I found the main features all came out before Kilo, cluster was latest(Juno)
14:46:43 <zhaochao> after that the main development is about supporting more datastore engines, and fixing existing problems
14:47:18 <zhaochao> fanzhang: yes, that's may be the biggest problem
14:47:52 <fanzhang> There are many use cases I think somewhere in the whole world, but we may not ever hear some. So what should and what can we bring up? It’s hard.
14:48:24 <fanzhang> Have you ever talked to TC?
14:48:53 <zhaochao> gang was talking about improving clustering, I also agree on that, however as none of us are now focusing on the databases themselves
14:49:02 <zhaochao> so this could also be hard
14:49:04 <gang> There also has a sound that openstack should just focus on IaaS, and drop all of Paas and Saas.
14:49:43 <zhaochao> fanzhang: yes, TC did reached me, and exchanged the situation about the project
14:50:04 <fanzhang> Do they have some visions for projects like us? Or maybe on pig, we may have some users interested in trove.
14:50:18 <fanzhang> On PTG
14:50:36 <zhaochao> and TC was saying would talk to more interested users and companies to help on the project
14:51:31 <zhaochao> gang: it may be related to the big tent discussion
14:51:48 <fanzhang> some people recently post some patches in trove, that may be a good starting I guess?
14:52:47 <fanzhang> And IMHO, we should try to organize a PTG gathering to collect users voices.
14:53:11 <fanzhang> Even just by emails, and seek some help from tc
14:56:32 <fanzhang> So what do you say...
14:57:06 <zhaochao> fanzhang: do you mean we should organize a dicussion about Trove on the mailinglist?
14:57:55 <fanzhang> Yeah, that could work.
14:58:44 <zhaochao> OK, I'll consider about it. Arimth did that before, but the result seems not good...:(
14:59:44 <zhaochao> and comparing the Arimth, we don't have more user cases to support the discussion
14:59:47 <fanzhang> Join a tc meeting, have some discussions and try to find some use cases, and collecting opinions about trove, we don’t have other ways besides these
14:59:51 <zhaochao> O, time is up
15:00:10 <fanzhang> Just one more thing
15:00:31 <fanzhang> If you show up in PTG, that would be great
15:00:36 <fanzhang> :)
15:00:56 <fanzhang> Ok, that’s all
15:01:59 <zhaochao> fanzhang: thanks, for the PTG, I didn't prepare for that...
15:02:10 <zhaochao> thanks, everyone
15:02:20 <wangyao_> good night
15:02:22 <zhaochao> and sorry for the horizon team meeting...
15:02:25 <fanzhang> Bye
15:02:25 <zhaochao> good night
15:02:31 <gang> night
15:02:42 <zhaochao> #endmeeting