14:00:03 <dkrol> #startmeeting trove 14:00:04 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Feb 13 14:00:03 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkrol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:05 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:08 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'trove' 14:00:12 <dkrol> Hello All 14:08:50 <bzurkowski> Hello 14:08:54 <bzurkowski> Sorry for late 14:09:03 <mpiwowarczy> hi 14:09:25 <bzurkowski> dkrol: Are you there? :) 14:09:25 <mpiwowarczy> sorry for being late :) 14:09:38 <mpiwowarczy> hi bzurkowski 14:10:47 <bzurkowski> Let's wait a short while 14:11:00 <dkrol> Hello, I'm very happy you found time to come 14:11:12 <bzurkowski> dkrol: Hello Dariusz 14:11:29 <bzurkowski> Great to have you in the meeting 14:11:32 <mpiwowarczy> nice to see you Dariusz :) 14:11:49 <dkrol> Are we waiting for anyone else? 14:11:58 <cezary_zukowski> Hi 14:12:08 <dkrol> Hello 14:12:15 <bzurkowski> I think we can start 14:12:46 <dkrol> Ok 14:12:50 <dkrol> #topic documentation 14:13:26 <dkrol> We can start with documentation 14:14:05 <cezary_zukowski> no update from my side, I will try to spend some time next week 14:14:45 <dkrol> Ok, in the meantime I've made two commits regarding documentation 14:15:31 <dkrol> But it seems you didn't see it 14:16:09 <dkrol> They are related to existing documentation 14:16:28 <dkrol> Please take a look in the spare time 14:16:31 <mpiwowarczy> dkrol: I was starting reviewing this change but I was interrupted by something 14:16:34 <cezary_zukowski> I only noticed their existence :) create-db and user management 14:16:44 <mpiwowarczy> I will back to the topic once I will found some time 14:17:13 <dkrol> It would be nice since there is not so much progress lately 14:17:42 <dkrol> #topic vagrant trovestack 14:17:44 <mpiwowarczy> as I saw there are just some minor issues like typos 14:17:57 <mpiwowarczy> I will try send my remarks in this week 14:18:03 <dkrol> What did happen with this topic? 14:18:15 <dkrol> This would be great 14:18:55 <mpiwowarczy> I want to create Vagrant file for newcomers 14:19:12 <mpiwowarczy> it is almost done, I have created new change 14:19:28 <dkrol> I remember we had this discussion some time ago 14:19:38 <mpiwowarczy> yeah 14:19:42 <mpiwowarczy> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove+status:open 14:19:57 <mpiwowarczy> sorry, this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636435/ 14:20:25 <mpiwowarczy> it is working but I still need some time for improvements and tests 14:20:54 <mpiwowarczy> I'm expecting it will be finished soon 14:20:55 <dkrol> Sure thing 14:21:11 <dkrol> I'm happy you decided to release it 14:21:36 <mpiwowarczy> any comments even on this stage are wolcome 14:21:42 <dkrol> Ok 14:21:50 <dkrol> #topic plans 14:22:01 <dkrol> My last topic today are plans 14:22:45 <dkrol> From stackanalytics it seems we didn't have so much work done this year 14:23:50 <dkrol> I had some discussions with people interesting in trove but they are worried about secuiryt and ddos when using shared abbitmq 14:24:29 <dkrol> I would like to say we can work on it and investigate the Octavia way of communication 14:25:09 <dkrol> But I'm not sure if we will be able to do it based on activity in the project 14:25:33 <dkrol> So I'm wondering what are your thoughts about this? 14:26:01 <mpiwowarczy> do we know how much work it is? 14:26:16 <dkrol> No we don't 14:26:39 <bzurkowski> Did you watch the video about guest communication I sent some time ago? 14:26:50 <mpiwowarczy> lets start investigate how much time we need spend 14:27:00 <dkrol> Which one? 14:27:05 <mpiwowarczy> based on this knowagle we can decide abut future steps 14:27:24 <bzurkowski> #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvcKlt3Lx8 14:27:30 <bzurkowski> "OpenStack Message Bus Security with Trove Database-as-a-Service" 14:27:57 <dkrol> Yes, I've shared it with you 3 meetings ago :) 14:28:34 <bzurkowski> No 14:28:38 <bzurkowski> I shared it with you :) 14:29:11 <bzurkowski> But still haven't found time to watch it 14:29:19 <bzurkowski> Have you? 14:29:21 <dkrol> Investigation sounds great 14:29:59 <dkrol> I'm just worried there is not so much going on in the project right now 14:30:26 <dkrol> And I'm not sure what is the future of the project in 3 months 14:31:19 <dkrol> So I would like to ask what plans do you have regarding trove? 14:31:34 <bzurkowski> I am also worried 14:31:49 <bzurkowski> For the last couple of weeks I didn't have time to work on the project 14:32:03 <bzurkowski> Even doing reviews was troublesome 14:32:20 <bzurkowski> But there is a good news from my side 14:33:36 <bzurkowski> We promised to upstream our internal changes 14:34:17 <bzurkowski> Many months ago 14:34:28 <dkrol> We? 14:35:00 <bzurkowski> I mean, Samsung :) 14:35:22 <dkrol> I saw you didn't have time and this is troublesome for me as you are core contributors 14:36:09 <bzurkowski> It seems that finally the time has come to start upstreaming the changes 14:36:21 <dkrol> So what will happen with that promise? 14:36:54 <dkrol> Any road map for it? 14:37:01 <bzurkowski> From the middle of February we will have the first person to upstream the changes full-time 14:37:17 <bzurkowski> It is already approved 14:38:01 <bzurkowski> And near that time I will manage to find more time on contribution 14:38:49 <bzurkowski> However, we must take into account that the person is new in the project and must be introduced 14:38:57 <dkrol> This is good news indeed but how about your involvement in community work? 14:39:50 <bzurkowski> For now I can only handle reviews 14:40:26 <dkrol> Stein release is in April. Do you have any plans for continuing to trove afterwards? 14:41:24 <bzurkowski> Well 14:42:00 <bzurkowski> Recently I spend much time on writing a scientific paper for my PhD 14:42:05 <bzurkowski> It is time consuming 14:42:06 <bzurkowski> You know ;) 14:42:37 <bzurkowski> But after I publish it I hope to find more time on the contribution 14:43:16 <dkrol> I know it too well and I know how important it is. That why I'm worried about the project :) 14:43:28 <bzurkowski> What is worth mentioning 14:43:53 <bzurkowski> Trove takes a part in the paper 14:44:06 <dkrol> Fingers crossed 14:44:22 <dkrol> How about the rest of the team? 14:44:58 <mpiwowarczy> hard to say how will look next weeks 14:45:47 <mpiwowarczy> internally we will be involved in other project which is not related to Trove 14:45:58 <dkrol> Hmmm.... I see 14:46:28 <mpiwowarczy> but I want to stay in with Torve upstream and help with development 14:46:34 <dkrol> And Cezary? 14:46:55 <mpiwowarczy> Cezary has been moved to this project with me 14:47:04 <cezary_zukowski> dokrol: I am also involved in the project mpiwowarczy mentioned :) 14:47:08 <mpiwowarczy> only Bartosz stays with trove 14:47:51 <cezary_zukowski> the problem is time, not wishes, unfortunatelly :) 14:48:15 <dkrol> So you will not work on trove anymore? 14:48:35 <dkrol> Time is always the biggest problem :) 14:49:33 <cezary_zukowski> I would not declare yes/no, but due to priorities, "you know" :)... 14:50:08 <dkrol> :) 14:50:14 <dkrol> Thanks for the info 14:50:28 <dkrol> That way all from my side 14:50:39 <dkrol> Do you have anything else to add? 14:50:47 <bzurkowski> What are your plans Dariusz? 14:50:59 <bzurkowski> What do you think about project future? 14:51:55 <dkrol> In the last months I had more time to work on trove then before 14:52:26 <bzurkowski> Yes, we all saw your activity 14:52:36 <dkrol> So I was very happy with new contributions, even if they were related to doxumentatir 14:53:28 <dkrol> As I said before, continuous contribution is the key to the project success 14:53:50 <dkrol> Without it is will not survive 14:53:56 <bzurkowski> Let's do not lose hope 14:54:11 <bzurkowski> The next 3 months will clarify what the future is 14:54:45 <bzurkowski> One person upstreaming full-time from mid-February is very promising 14:54:47 <dkrol> I hope for the best 14:54:56 <dkrol> Thanks for coming today 14:55:00 <bzurkowski> One more thing 14:55:02 <bzurkowski> Dariusz 14:55:08 <bzurkowski> There is a new contributor in the project 14:55:08 <bzurkowski> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/635705/ 14:55:10 <dkrol> Please 14:55:30 <bzurkowski> What about contacting him and inviting to IRC meeting? 14:55:36 <bzurkowski> He seems to be involved 14:55:49 <bzurkowski> And experienced in development in other projects 14:55:52 <dkrol> Yes, he contacted me and he would like to be core contributors 14:55:58 <bzurkowski> Great 14:56:16 <bzurkowski> You are telling us now?! 14:56:18 <dkrol> Let's vote next week 14:56:52 <bzurkowski> Let's invite him next week 14:56:58 <bzurkowski> But voting is too soon I guess 14:57:04 <dkrol> I already did it 14:57:08 <bzurkowski> Your call 14:57:16 <bzurkowski> All from my side 14:57:30 <dkrol> Let's talk about it next week or via email 14:57:34 <bzurkowski> Sure 14:57:36 <bzurkowski> Thank for the meeting 14:57:48 <dkrol> My pleasure 14:57:52 <dkrol> See you 14:57:56 <mpiwowarczy> bye 14:57:56 <bzurkowski> Bye 14:58:05 <dkrol> #endmeeting