18:01:11 #startmeeting uc 18:01:12 Meeting started Mon Jul 17 18:01:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shamail. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:01:14 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:01:17 The meeting name has been set to 'uc' 18:01:32 #chair mrhillsman ShillaSaebi 18:01:32 Current chairs: ShillaSaebi mrhillsman shamail 18:01:52 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee#Meeting_Agenda.2FPrevious_Meeting_Logs 18:02:00 Anyone here for the UC meeting? 18:02:03 hello 18:02:13 Hi ShillaSaebi 18:02:36 o/ 18:03:11 hi mrhillsman 18:03:18 shall we get started or wait a couple of minutes? 18:03:37 we can wait until 5 after in case anyone else shows up 18:03:53 sounds good 18:05:23 Alrighty 18:05:28 let’s get going 18:05:47 We have 3/5 so quorum 18:05:59 #topic Review AUC and Extra-AUC Patch 18:06:12 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479462/ 18:06:43 mrhillsman: I reviewed the patch and I think it captures what we want from the WGs (list of AUC and extra AUC) 18:06:53 cool 18:07:00 A) I think the “Expires-in” field either needs to be in both AUC and Extra-AUC areas or in none 18:07:21 the terms for AUC/extra-AUC will be the same and we will want chairs to review lists every release cycle 18:07:53 +1 18:07:59 B) I looked at the generated page from the gate (http://docs-draft.openstack.org/62/479462/3/check/gate-governance-uc-docs-ubuntu-xenial/e5b8fed//doc/build/html/) 18:08:09 and if you look at the “chairs” section, it broke 18:08:54 What is everyones thought on A and B? 18:09:59 ping mrhillsman & ShillaSaebi 18:10:43 i agree with the expires in, we should either include in both or none 18:11:02 thanks ShillaSaebi 18:11:36 Should we defer this meeting? I think Melvin is multi-tasking too :) 18:11:43 sorry, stepped away for a second 18:11:49 all good 18:12:01 as far as the broken piece, anyone have time to look at it? 18:12:19 I can loom 18:12:22 I wouldn’t know where to begin… 18:12:23 Look 18:12:25 thanks 18:12:44 ok let me know if you need a second set of eyes on it 18:12:48 #agree mrhillsman will look at ways to fix the “chairs” section with the updated YAML files 18:13:06 sweet 18:13:18 I have an idea of what is happening 18:13:35 thank you! 18:13:39 mrhillsman: Can you also update the patch with whichever option you prefer regarding the “expires-in” field? 18:13:48 Thanks 18:14:22 ok anything else on this topic? 18:14:40 #action mrhillsman to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479462/ by either adding “expires-in” to both or none of the sections 18:14:46 I think we’re good 18:14:54 #topic Review addition of WG/Team Requirements as UC reference doc #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484208/ 18:15:35 I took the draft that we had in google docs and posted a patch with the suggested changes 18:15:44 http://docs-draft.openstack.org/08/484208/5/check/gate-governance-uc-docs-ubuntu-xenial/b5e054c//doc/build/html/reference/new-uc-group-requirements.html 18:16:18 #action UC members should review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484208/ and add roll-call vote 18:16:22 okay 18:16:24 ok 18:16:25 will do 18:16:25 Thanks for reviewing the doc! 18:16:45 I think we’re good on this topic too 18:16:47 i reviewed it, some cosmetic stuff, but totally cool with the wording 18:16:50 ++ 18:17:07 thx for taking time to write it up :) 18:17:12 yeah, thanks mrhillsman… you fixed a lot of stuff with the verbiage 18:17:34 #topic SIG Update (Mailing List and Meta SIG Discussion) 18:17:42 mrhillsman: can you give an update on this one? 18:17:45 sure 18:18:21 we created the ML and proposed a Meta SIG initially that helps with onboarding for SIGs and figuring out the governance and what not, basically a SIG for SIGs hehe 18:18:25 getting links 18:18:49 sign up for SIGs ML - #link http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-sigs 18:19:10 meta sig proposal - #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-sigs/2017-July/000000.html 18:19:31 nice work 18:19:38 Awesome 18:19:51 and i started a discussion around how the work of SIGs can actually turn into code per se - #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-sigs/2017-July/000003.html 18:20:23 Nice write up! 18:20:35 Will the Meta SIG have meeting as well or will all business happen on SIG-ML? 18:20:59 I like this discussion mrhillsman, the observation is spot-on 18:21:00 this is the thing that will take time as everyone has an opinion/perspective but i think we should continue to keep the discussion focused on solution rather than hashing out opinions of the why of our current state 18:21:45 * shamail will sign up for SIG-ML and [meta] 18:21:53 ditto 18:22:12 Thanks for the update mrhillsman… a lot of progress! 18:22:12 maybe we can keep all discussions on the ML for now 18:22:16 Anything else? 18:22:16 very welcome 18:22:24 mrhillsman: +1 18:22:27 nothing else from me 18:22:39 #topic Review attendance/agenda for July 19th WG Updates meeting 18:22:51 i will be in attendance 18:22:59 Awesome 18:23:13 I most likely won' 18:23:19 yeah its 1 am our time 18:23:20 won’t be in attendance since its 1AM 18:23:22 usually thats past my bedtime 18:23:27 hehe 18:23:38 i can set an alarm and show up though if you need me there 18:23:38 Same here ShillaSaebi, I us usually out by 12:55A 18:23:42 I am usually* 18:23:47 heheh 18:23:57 we will be in openstack-uc i believe 18:24:01 yeah ^ 18:24:16 and that is all plugged into infra so everyone can catch up l8r 18:24:24 yeah that works 18:24:33 thanks for covering mrhillsman 18:24:39 ++ 18:24:40 very welcome 18:24:51 #topic Discuss sessions submitted for Sydney Summit that require UC assistance (if any) 18:25:00 We don’t have any WG chairs here so not much to this topic 18:25:11 yeah and i think as far as our sessions go, we have 2 in 18:25:16 but I was hoping that we can find out if any WGs need help with their plans for Sydney 18:25:25 ShillaSaebi: thanks for submitting! 18:25:28 ++ 18:25:39 maybe we can send something via ML and ask the wgs 18:25:43 mrhillsman: Can you ask the WG chairs about this on July 19th? 18:25:48 there u go +1 18:26:06 seems like a great opportunity to bring it up 18:26:19 totally 18:26:51 yep 18:27:02 thanks 18:27:10 #topic Open Discussion 18:27:17 Aaaanything else? 18:27:29 1 thing :) 18:27:49 i was wondering about us setting some goals 18:27:57 not necessarily right now 18:28:04 maybe after election 18:28:08 mrhillsman: +1 18:28:20 +1 18:28:24 cool 18:28:34 that's it from me 18:28:40 thanks everyone! 18:28:45 thx! 18:28:48 talk to you soon :) 18:28:52 thanks everyone! 18:28:56 #endmeeting