18:02:12 <VW> #startmeeting uc 18:02:13 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Jan 22 18:02:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:02:14 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:02:16 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'uc' 18:02:25 <VW> #chair mrhillsman 18:02:26 <openstack> Current chairs: VW mrhillsman 18:02:35 <zioproto> hello 18:04:13 <VW> as a reminder, the agenda is published here: 18:04:15 <VW> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee 18:04:23 <VW> #chair zioproto 18:04:24 <openstack> Current chairs: VW mrhillsman zioproto 18:04:29 <VW> #topic Roll Call 18:04:34 <mrhillsman> o/ 18:04:41 <VW> besides, mrhillsman, zioproto and myself, who's here 18:05:06 <VW> #chair shamail_ 18:05:07 <openstack> Current chairs: VW mrhillsman shamail_ zioproto 18:05:45 <shamail_> Hi 18:06:26 <VW> ok - looks like it's mainly us four :) 18:06:40 <VW> Let's get rolling, shall we 18:06:48 <VW> #topic Update on election process 18:07:05 <VW> So, I was behind, but I did get the email out today for election officials 18:07:37 <VW> we still need to make and equivalent for this for the election - https://governance.openstack.org/uc/reference/uc-election-aug2017.html 18:07:48 <VW> preferably before Next Monday 18:08:37 <mrhillsman> i can do that today 18:09:00 <VW> awesome - thanks mrhillsman 18:09:13 * VW needs to practice updating documentation the git way 18:09:24 <mrhillsman> ;) 18:09:40 <VW> #action mrhillsman update documentation for Winter 2018 election 18:10:55 <mrhillsman> i added a few items to the google drive folder as well 18:10:58 <mrhillsman> #link https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cfXkCE1T1zYJLnkY9Heeupbpebo_Pysx 18:11:17 <mrhillsman> actually specific to elections - #link https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15xIfqTxaB7lnhjVa2SO-vIlR_AqRWKD5 18:11:32 <mrhillsman> feel free to comment/modify 18:11:42 <mrhillsman> should be accessible by all UC members 18:11:49 <mrhillsman> at a minimum 18:11:53 <mrhillsman> let me know of not 18:11:57 <mrhillsman> s/of/if 18:12:32 <VW> will do 18:12:54 <VW> Shilla already volunteered to help officiate. And she caught copy/paste date error I had 18:13:19 <zioproto> I confirm I can see the documents 18:13:31 <zioproto> I opened general notes, it is empty so far 18:14:47 <VW> I only have read access to the docs 18:15:13 <mrhillsman> fixing VW 18:15:41 <mrhillsman> zioproto i added general for stuff that does not go under what is currently there 18:16:05 <mrhillsman> hope is that it can be filled with stuff that could potentially end up being a standalone doc 18:16:18 <mrhillsman> like the auc implementation details and running an election docs 18:16:28 <zioproto> ok 18:17:44 <mrhillsman> i created the patches for winter and spring 2018 too 18:17:58 <mrhillsman> VW 18:18:03 <mrhillsman> everyone should be able to edit now 18:18:11 <mrhillsman> all UC folks that is 18:19:28 <zioproto> I guess we are all on Google Docs now right ? 18:19:31 <shamail> Yep 18:19:34 <VW> I'm good at the openstack_uc_2018 level 18:19:39 <VW> but not the Elections folder stuff 18:20:29 <mrhillsman> ok 18:21:10 <mrhillsman> oh 18:22:45 <VW> So, we should probably go ahead an pick someone to send out the call for nominations prior to next Monday 18:22:57 <VW> unless you would like to wait till after our meeting at 14:00 UTC on the 29th 18:22:59 <mrhillsman> so i think it is because you do not have a gmail address 18:23:23 <mrhillsman> your @rackspace.com would need to be associated with a gmail address 18:23:25 <VW> mvanwink@gmail.com 18:23:30 <mrhillsman> ok cool 18:23:34 <mrhillsman> fixing 18:23:40 <VW> sweet 18:24:44 <mrhillsman> ok, done 18:24:55 <mrhillsman> folders share differently from files :) 18:25:05 <VW> perfect - it's all working 18:25:32 <VW> so, last item on elections for today is the call for nominations (see above) 18:25:45 * mrhillsman feels like i need a course for how to share in google drive 18:26:15 <mrhillsman> i def think the call should go out asap 18:26:34 <mrhillsman> i noticed reading through tom's email that he sent notification out in june for august :) 18:27:02 <VW> oops 18:27:08 <mrhillsman> and wanted to bring it up hehe 18:27:24 <mrhillsman> yeah, but we have time :) 18:27:48 <mrhillsman> and will do better next go around since we have some organization around the process now 18:28:29 <mrhillsman> #info update running election doc with suggested time frame for sending out emails 18:28:30 <zioproto> ( guys, emergency, kids at home vomiting everywhere, gotta go, read logs later ) 18:28:41 <mrhillsman> ok, ttyl 18:28:50 <VW> I guess a note to the MLs early this week letting everyone know the dates would be good 18:28:51 <mrhillsman> hopefully not too bad 18:28:59 <VW> and a formal call for nominations next Monday 18:29:03 <VW> good luck zioproto 18:29:04 <mrhillsman> ++ 18:29:29 <shamail> I hope kids feel better soon zioproto 18:29:38 <VW> ok - cool. Let's get the patch up for the election and then we can drop a note 18:29:53 <VW> what lists - Operators, anything else? 18:30:44 <VW> perfect template - #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2017-January/012530.html 18:32:20 <shamail> +1 18:32:38 <mrhillsman> user-committee openstack-operators and openstack MLs 18:32:41 <shamail> user committee & operatorsML 18:32:48 <mrhillsman> heck why not openstack-dev too :) 18:32:57 <mrhillsman> just saying, they can run for uc 18:33:06 <shamail> mrhillsman: good suggestion, +openstack ML 18:33:18 <shamail> Does the candidate running have to be an AUC themselves? 18:33:27 <VW> Alright - looks like Tim is interested in helping as an inspector as well 18:33:31 <VW> so we may have our two 18:33:35 <shamail> (was thinking through sending nomination to dev ML… coud a Dev be nominated if not AUC)? 18:33:44 <VW> he's asking about what all is involved. I need to find the right doc to point him at 18:33:59 <VW> no, must be AUC to be a candidate 18:34:08 <VW> it's called out in the "running an election" doc 18:34:26 <VW> part of what the inspectors/officials should help verify 18:36:59 <VW> so, we have some work to do. Anything else we want to discuss related to elections right now? 18:38:20 <mrhillsman> shamail good question 18:38:42 <mrhillsman> but do only non-auc folks use openstack-dev? 18:39:56 <mrhillsman> some devs may only write a su article, and use openstack-dev, but that would make them an auc - the su article 18:40:51 <VW> true 18:40:59 <mrhillsman> i just don't think it would hurt as it may catch at least one person hehe 18:41:09 <VW> we should catch those folks if we publish the election doc and reference in the call for candidates 18:41:56 <shamail> mrhillsman: fair point, there are probably AUCs on dev ML that aren’t on UC or ops MLs 18:42:10 <mrhillsman> ++ 18:42:58 <VW> time check - we have 18 minutes left. Anything else election related we want to cover 18:43:09 <shamail> nothing from my end 18:43:16 <shamail> I’ll let you know how my PTG travel ends up 18:43:19 <shamail> are both of you there for sure? 18:43:32 <VW> well since you mentioned.... 18:43:53 <VW> #topic UC planning at PTG 18:45:05 <VW> it is looking like I will be able to make it to the PTG. Finalizing a couple of details on my end and confirming with Jimmy what days would be most useful to be around 18:45:31 <VW> so, you most likely won't be by yourself mrhillsman :) 18:45:52 <shamail> Nice, congrats VW 18:47:14 <VW> The foundation helped a lot in making it happen shamail. You might reach out to Jimmy if you having trouble getting the whole trip covered, etc 18:47:33 <mrhillsman> awesome! 18:47:45 <mrhillsman> leong will be there as well hoping to get some uc planning done 18:47:52 <mrhillsman> along with jimmy and maybe chris :) 18:48:35 <VW> and hopefully zioproto can come up for a day or two 18:48:49 <shamail> Thanks for the heads up VW… I applied for travel support so we’ll see how it goes 18:48:57 <VW> cool 18:50:15 <zioproto> I am back, reading the part I missed 18:50:30 <VW> So, it sounds like we need to get as many thoughts as we can in https://docs.google.com/document/d/19DhGbvO-WfQKG5MJEUqQ2xfVBFZYjOR8H7JvfQNHUA0/edit 18:50:47 <VW> sounds like there will be some critical mass to have discussions 18:53:08 <VW> We are running out of time. I'll go ahead and add this to the agenda again for next week 18:55:20 <VW> #topic Other Business 18:55:34 <VW> before we go, anything else anyone wants to discuss 18:55:46 <VW> mrhillsman, zioproto? 18:56:05 <zioproto> nothing on my side 18:58:16 <VW> alright - I'll wrap up this meeting then 18:58:27 <VW> we have some work to do today/tomorrow on the election 18:58:41 <VW> please add anything you feel strongly about to the upcoming agendas 18:58:52 <VW> otherwise, see you all next week at 14:00 18:58:57 <zioproto> good night ! or good day, depending on the timezone 18:59:57 <VW> #endmeeting