18:11:00 <mrhillsman> #startmeeting uc 18:11:01 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Sep 24 18:11:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrhillsman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:11:02 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:11:04 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'uc' 18:11:14 <spotz> heheh 18:11:26 <mrhillsman> nothing like a good ol mention to set off an alert :) 18:11:30 <mrhillsman> #topic RollCall 18:11:34 <spotz> wiki agenda says 7/30 and 8/6 FYI 18:11:38 <spotz> o/ 18:11:43 <mrhillsman> o. 18:11:46 <mrhillsman> o/ 18:11:48 <mrhillsman> :) 18:11:50 <leong> o/ 18:12:14 <mrhillsman> i think josephrsandoval and VW_ are out for a bit but hope to make it before we are done 18:12:24 <spotz> Dang VW we almost had everyone!! 18:12:40 <josephrsandoval> back 18:12:56 <mrhillsman> #topic Housekeeping 18:13:41 <mrhillsman> so, i sent the email about moving things to https://governance.openstack.org/uc/ and setting the wiki page to "read-only" 18:13:52 <mrhillsman> anyone up to take on that task? 18:14:20 <mrhillsman> i think if we can have that done by end of next month that would be great; plenty of time :) 18:14:33 <mrhillsman> probably will not take that long 18:15:01 <josephrsandoval> sure 18:15:17 <mrhillsman> so basically it is condensing the wiki page down to something very similar to - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/TechnicalCommittee 18:15:19 <leong> sound good 18:16:07 <mrhillsman> and pushing patches to update - https://governance.openstack.org/uc/ - via http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance-uc 18:16:19 <mrhillsman> does that mean both of you will work on it? 18:16:32 <mrhillsman> josephrsandoval and leong 18:17:23 <leong> i can... 18:17:32 <mrhillsman> #action josephrsandoval and leong to work on setting UC wiki to "read-only" and update governance.o.o/uc/ to replace it 18:17:44 <mrhillsman> cool 18:18:01 <leong> but i am wondering if i have the permission to chagne the UC wiki readonly.. 18:18:03 <spotz> woot 18:18:12 <leong> i might need to check 18:18:20 <mrhillsman> well, not really read-only, that's why i used air quotes :) 18:18:48 <mrhillsman> i mean just removing stuff from it and making it primarily a pointer rather than something that changes a lot 18:19:05 <spotz> Just put a link in the page to the new area 18:19:06 <leong> got it 18:19:08 <mrhillsman> any other housekeeping/general things? 18:20:12 <spotz> Un Forum/Summit session submittal? 18:20:33 <mrhillsman> yes, we need to do that for sure 18:21:16 <mrhillsman> i pinged Ashlee to send a message to user groups / ambassadors in the area so hopefully that yields some sessions 18:21:41 <mrhillsman> if any of you have user/operators/developers in the area please encourage them to submit sessions 18:22:00 <mrhillsman> anything else? 18:22:09 <mrhillsman> sorry 18:22:15 <spotz> I think the ops meetup group is trying to put something together. But I meant us:) 18:22:53 <mrhillsman> spotz on the session have any catchy title? 18:23:13 <mrhillsman> yeah, i understood that, apologies 18:23:17 <spotz> We doing a meet and greet or what do we want to get out of it? 18:23:41 <mrhillsman> we could get a few things probably 18:24:21 <mrhillsman> i think we should def do the meet and greet 18:24:25 <mrhillsman> just always a good to have 18:24:37 <spotz> So Get to know your USer Committee for one? 18:24:55 <spotz> Users and OPerators of rthe World Unit?:) 18:25:12 <leong> is that consider a BoF? 18:25:51 <mrhillsman> i believe so 18:26:04 <mrhillsman> so we have one BoF 18:26:21 <spotz> Yeah so each group can have a WG session and a BoF session, space is going quickly though 18:26:44 <leong> if so.. i believe we also need to reserve a space... 18:26:49 <mrhillsman> and we can/should have a work room 18:26:58 <leong> #link Berlin WG/BoF request: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qOFG0pnUQWCFbJW6esyliS4cxO4qYIsUuSpkx29B3aw/edit#gid=0 18:28:02 <leong> i just added a row there 18:28:14 <leong> but we need a BoF title and description 18:28:23 <spotz> Just titles I thought 18:28:32 <leong> also included WG session for UC 18:29:07 <leong> #topic Berlin Summit 18:29:32 <leong> mrhillsman: changing the topic heading :p 18:29:50 <spotz> Well it was kinda general topic:) 18:30:23 <mrhillsman> i just added something, we can change later i suppose :) 18:30:37 <leong> "User Committee Hangout with Users, Application Developers, and Operators" that looks to me more like a description :) 18:31:16 <mrhillsman> better? 18:31:27 <leong> +2 18:31:39 <mrhillsman> ok cool 18:31:47 <mrhillsman> anything else housekeeping/general related? 18:32:11 <spotz> Nope 18:33:08 <mrhillsman> #topic User Survey 18:33:21 <mrhillsman> everyone have access to - https://www.openstack.org/sangria/ViewSurveyFreeAnswersList 18:33:24 <mrhillsman> ? 18:33:45 <josephrsandoval> i don't 18:33:53 <josephrsandoval> have access 18:34:29 <mrhillsman> aprice jamesmcarthur can either of you get josephrsandoval access to the survey results 18:35:01 <jamesmcarthur> yes - no problem 18:35:42 <mrhillsman> ty sir 18:35:54 <spotz> He's magic:) 18:35:59 <mrhillsman> alright, so the netpromotor one is done thankfully 18:36:16 <jamesmcarthur> @josephrsandoval: you should be able to get in now 18:36:19 <jamesmcarthur> sorry about that 18:36:19 <mrhillsman> however the other two need attention - like trauma unit style 18:36:26 <jamesmcarthur> lol 18:36:31 <mrhillsman> what do you like most and further enhancement 18:36:54 <mrhillsman> is anyone not aware of what we are doing? 18:37:00 <spotz> I started looking at the besides Open one but needed to get ready for grace hopper. I'll try to do some tagging tonight as I've started already 18:37:23 <jamesmcarthur> Yeah, so at a high level, the reason for the tagging is so that we can do advanced data analysis on the free-text answers. 18:38:04 <mrhillsman> i think if everyone spent at least one hour today we will be done honestly 18:38:14 <jamesmcarthur> yeah... it goes pretty fast once you get started 18:38:22 <mrhillsman> and we have 20 minutes left in the meeting that i would like to take advantage of 18:38:53 <mrhillsman> throw on some headphones for 15-20 minutes and tag as much as you can; of course quality over quantity :P 18:39:07 <mrhillsman> anything else for the meeting? 18:39:22 <jamesmcarthur> sorry for my late attendance. Lost track of time. I will catch up on the logs. 18:39:29 <mrhillsman> no problem 18:40:01 <jamesmcarthur> josephrsandoval: if you have trouble logging in, ping me directly :) 18:40:13 <josephrsandoval> im in 18:40:13 <josephrsandoval> ty 18:42:07 <mrhillsman> jamesmcarthur if two people tag the same question one after another and hit update, does the page reflect both tags, or a full page refresh is needed to see any updates from others 18:42:42 <jamesmcarthur> it should allow people to tag concurrently... 18:42:57 <jamesmcarthur> but it's probably worth a quick test to be sure 18:42:58 <mrhillsman> would be nice to have a "x is typing..." or some visible tip to that effect 18:43:02 <spotz> Or should we assign folks sections? 18:43:03 <jamesmcarthur> uno momento 18:43:21 <jamesmcarthur> mrhillsman: ha ha! we do have a pretty small budget you know ;) 18:43:27 <mrhillsman> hehe 18:43:41 <jamesmcarthur> As much as I want to recreate Slack in our survey tagging :P 18:43:45 <jamesmcarthur> one sec - let me test 18:43:59 <leong> is there a common/agreed "tag" to use? for example: IT vs Information Technology vs Software Development 18:44:00 <leong> etc 18:44:24 <mrhillsman> leong i would say there is not 18:44:40 <mrhillsman> but jimmy would know 18:44:46 <mrhillsman> i generally look at what is already there real quick when i load the page 18:45:02 <mrhillsman> at the bottom left i always load all the questions :) 18:45:40 <jamesmcarthur> ok - yeah, you can do it concurrently 18:45:56 <jamesmcarthur> i thought that's how we set it up, but just double checked and tested 18:46:06 <leong> ok 18:46:11 <jamesmcarthur> leong: no, I do another round where I merge tags 18:46:17 <jamesmcarthur> So just use whatever makes sense to you 18:46:24 <leong> jamesmcarthur: noted 18:46:42 <leong> i got to switch network.. brb... 18:48:11 <jamesmcarthur> Thanks everyone for your help! 18:48:24 <spotz> NP 18:49:21 <leong> started tagging 18:49:29 <mrhillsman> also leong the responses are great for finding common tags 18:49:36 <mrhillsman> like stability, reliability, etc 18:49:51 <spotz> community 18:54:05 <ianychoi_> o/ (curiously I am not sleeping right now) 18:54:55 <mrhillsman> o/ 18:55:02 <leong> \o 18:55:19 <mrhillsman> we're just speed-tagging :) 18:55:30 <ianychoi> wow :) 18:55:31 <mrhillsman> 5 more minutes 18:55:38 <mrhillsman> high interval tagging hehe 18:56:18 <ianychoi> jamesmcarthur, just a quick question - are there translators on answers for other many languages (e.g., China)? 18:56:43 <spotz> hey ianychoi 18:57:11 <ianychoi> spotz, hi :) 18:57:32 <leong> i can do the chinese one..:) 18:57:39 <leong> but not korean :-) 18:57:39 <jamesmcarthur> ianychoi: aprice and I are still working on that. 18:58:01 <jamesmcarthur> leong: ianychoi: the problem is the volume 18:58:27 <jamesmcarthur> ianychoi has graciously offered to do the Korean translation, but there are hundreds of answers to translate 18:58:35 <leong> i got to drop now.. will continue tagging tonight... 18:58:42 <leong> jamesmcarthur: let me know anything i can help 18:58:45 <jamesmcarthur> Sunny, who works at the Foundation is working on some of the Chinese trasnlation for us 18:58:50 <jamesmcarthur> thank you leong! 18:59:38 <jamesmcarthur> ianychoi: we have reached out to Frank re: some of this, but as we noted, it requires an NDA and isn't something we can post to Zanata 18:59:52 <ianychoi> jamesmcarthur, haha yes too much responses.. but I will try to finish :) 19:00:36 <mrhillsman> #endmeeting