13:30:59 <spotz> #startmeeting UC
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13:31:03 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'uc'
13:31:04 <spotz> #topic Roll Call
13:31:15 <melsakhawy> o/
13:31:18 <studarus> o/
13:31:21 <spotz> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc
13:31:38 <belmoreira> o/
13:31:47 <spotz> #chair melsakhawy studarus belmoreira jayahn spotz
13:31:48 <openstack> Current chairs: belmoreira jayahn melsakhawy spotz studarus
13:32:24 <spotz> If jayahn is here it'll be the first time in a while we've had eveeryone
13:33:16 <spotz> Ok hopefully he'll pop in
13:33:33 <spotz> #topic Election Update
13:33:42 <jayahn> ㅐ/
13:33:45 <jayahn> o/
13:33:53 <spotz> So far we've had 0 candidates nominate themsevles
13:33:58 <spotz> Woot full house:)
13:34:44 <spotz> I've spoken to a few people and suggested they run. If you know of anyone you think would bee good I would suggest doing the samee
13:35:01 <studarus> I had one person contact me
13:35:09 <studarus> but not sure if he is serious
13:36:23 <spotz> I've emailed out the one reminder, I'll tweet another one today. studarus weere you still running? Maybe seeeing your nomination on the lists might help
13:36:40 <studarus> we need three, right?
13:37:59 <jayahn> i will also promote uc election through my social.
13:38:07 <spotz> Yes, if we only end up with 1 at lleast wee would keep an odd numbere on the committee
13:43:38 <spotz> Ok if everyone can share the link to the nominations email - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/user-committee/2020-February/002898.html I'd appreciate it
13:43:48 <spotz> Anything elsee on this topic?
13:44:14 <studarus> nothing else from me
13:45:07 <spotz> #topic Ambassador Update
13:45:20 <spotz> melsakhawy you have any updatees?
13:45:46 <melsakhawy> Yeah , I think we'r ready to submit for review by the foundation
13:46:10 <melsakhawy> I elaborated a bit on the advocacy part, but can't specify activitites
13:46:36 <melsakhawy> so prefer to leave it "assist with brand strengthening activities organized by the foundation"
13:46:58 <spotz> studarus: Do you have any input as you've served as one?
13:47:10 <spotz> You too jayahn?
13:47:12 <studarus> I put my thoughts into the document
13:47:26 <studarus> it'll be interesting to see what the foundation staff has to say
13:47:46 <studarus> last we spoke with them, they had different views of the ambassador role
13:47:53 <studarus> so I hope we can convince them of a change
13:48:08 <melsakhawy> yeah , I still have to do some document cleaning, But I can probably send it over sometime next week
13:48:53 <jayahn> I will try to put my thought into it
13:49:05 <spotz> Well someething the neext UC class could do is if they like the concept but not the name maybee make it something new
13:50:10 <studarus> yeah - that's an idea
13:50:19 <studarus> either way we need foundation support to make it happen
13:50:25 <spotz> Sp let's say if you have any comments put them on the document by Monday so melsakhawy can. submit later next week?
13:50:37 <studarus> to get them listed on the website, get them some sort of benefits
13:51:15 <melsakhawy> sure sounds good , and I agree on that studarus
13:51:22 <spotz> The election starts next Monday so I'll leave it up to you melsakhawy if you want to wait for any fresh comments after neext weeks meeting to submit
13:51:48 <spotz> AAmbassadors used to be on the website, did they get dropped off in an update?
13:52:15 <studarus> I was talking about setting up a new group
13:52:18 <melsakhawy> I'll submit next week, I'dd rather submit now to get going , there may be iterations on it anyway so we'll get new member's input as well
13:52:28 <spotz> Ok sounds good
13:52:42 <spotz> Ok studarus makees sense
13:52:59 <spotz> Anything else on this?
13:53:14 <melsakhawy> nope, I'm good
13:53:46 <spotz> #topic Vancouver
13:55:11 <studarus> looks like the Ambassador page has been removed from the website
13:55:27 <studarus> Vancouver is strange - is there no North America summit this year?
13:55:32 <spotz> So I aasked last weeek and melsakhawy wasn't going or wasn't sure and belmoreira stated he wasn't rerunning. So I wanted to bee sure there would bee some repreentation before putting in for a UC time slot.
13:55:38 <studarus> has it been replaced with just the PTG and OpenDev?
13:55:46 <jayahn> that is my question. no summit for vancouver?
13:56:21 <spotz> There's is just this one in the US, it's supposed to have vendors and such but it's not a fullblown Summit. That will be Berlin in October
13:56:35 <studarus> so that means no CFP for Vancouver?
13:57:23 <spotz> Actually there will be as Ashleee mailed out looking for Track Chairs and modeeerators
13:57:46 <studarus> do we expect users or just developers since it will be a PTG?
13:58:46 <spotz> It's beeing targeted for both. I'll grab the mail real quiick to confirm but forum type event in the morning with PTG in the afternoon. Each day I think with a keeynote but let me confirm all that real quick
13:59:16 <studarus> I did outreach to the projects that I've supported with workshops in past years and none plan to conduct workshops in Vancouver. Kayobe, StarlingX.
13:59:31 <spotz> OpenDev + PTG is a new collaborative event organized by the OpenStack Foundation gathering developers, system architects, and operators to address common open source infrastructure challenges.
13:59:47 <spotz> OpenDev will include discussion oriented sessions around a particular topic to explore a problem within a topic area, share common architectures, and collaborate around potential solutions. This OpenDev will focus specifically on the following Tracks, spanning open source projects, including Airship, Ansible, Ceph, Kata Containers, Kubernetes, OpenStack, StarlingX, and Zuul:
13:59:47 <spotz> Hardware Automation
13:59:47 <spotz> Large-scale Usage of Open Source Infrastructure Software
13:59:49 <spotz> Containers in Production
13:59:51 <spotz> Key Challenges for Open Source in 2020
13:59:59 <studarus> if there won't be workshops, I won't have funding to attend
14:00:51 <spotz> I'm not specifically seeing workshops listed. Maybee check with Ashleee?
14:00:53 <jayahn> it will be difficult to get funding from the company, if there is no presentation to do, workshop to lead, ...
14:03:14 <spotz> I will point out there will bee TSP available but understand
14:04:31 <jayahn> I can use Airship PTG as a reason for attending, however, I will know if I can go in May.
14:04:42 <studarus> so maybe we skip Yancouver and hope for Berlin?
14:04:47 <spotz> Yeah it's just not clear on the workshops and such
14:05:21 <studarus> are we supposed to present at the board meeting?
14:06:54 <spotz> We are planning on a Joint Leadership meeting on Sunday yes. Feedback in the last board meeting was that they were positive and helpful.
14:07:14 <studarus> so maybe we dialin?
14:07:24 <spotz> Mainly myseelf and Julia who wasa TC thought they were good
14:08:07 <spotz> studarus: Dialin or if needed I don't mind filling in for the current UC as needed. Provided I don't end up with a ton on my plate, which I'm not expecting
14:11:53 <spotz> I'll probably put in for 1 diversity WG session and I offered to moderate
14:14:10 <spotz> 15 minutes left, I'd say we need to find out about workshops from OSF and then can figure out next week. But I can stand in if needed for a session
14:14:25 <studarus> ok!
14:14:30 <spotz> Anything else on this?
14:15:07 <spotz> #topic Merger Update
14:15:55 <spotz> I emaileed out a link to the TC meeting where ttx was giving an update. It seens the goveernance changes need to mergee the 2 groups are goingg to bee quite lengthy
14:16:16 <spotz> And I really neeed my keyboard fixed:(
14:17:35 <spotz> Did anyone get a chance to read it?
14:18:02 <jayahn> not yet, I will find it
14:19:52 <spotz> I'm not sure which way things are going to go, but I don't think anything will happen for 6-12 months the eaarliest
14:22:59 <spotz> Without aanyonee reading the maiil yet we should move to new business aand we can add this for the aagendaa for next week
14:24:44 <jayahn> okay
14:24:46 <spotz> #topic Open Discussion
14:25:00 <spotz> Anyone have anything?
14:25:12 <studarus> just that the Ambassador page is gone
14:25:38 <studarus> I sent out an email about how the CNCF is running local events
14:25:40 <spotz> Ok that's a jimmy question
14:25:58 <studarus> they have a GitHub page where you add your event to get approved
14:26:13 <studarus> we never had a good process to get local days approved
14:26:20 <studarus> so it might make sense to copy
14:26:34 <jayahn> does local days needs to be approved? in what criteria?
14:26:35 <studarus> or do something via Git
14:26:50 <studarus> yes, it has to go to the foundation for their blessing
14:26:54 <studarus> otherwise you can't use the name
14:27:14 <studarus> they like to see funding and organizer support listed
14:27:38 <studarus> the requirements were never officially stated and varied from event to event
14:28:17 <studarus> and the foundation would provide some funding if specific criteria was met
14:28:23 <jayahn> there has been some requirements from the foundation since they branded "openstack days" in .. several years ago.
14:29:01 <studarus> yeah - it would be nice to have an open process for people to find other people interested in running events
14:29:26 <studarus> the CNCF process is good at bringing together interested organizers in a city that may not know each other
14:29:32 <spotz> Yeah I'm not sure if we'ree openinfra or opendev
14:29:49 <jayahn> then, from last year, some of local "days" changed its name slightly so that it can involve other technologies such as containers, kubernetes, etc.
14:30:41 <studarus> OpenDev is the new name for the projects around Zuul
14:30:42 <jayahn> i will look at CNCF process. however, personally, i don't like how LF deals with local user groups. OpenStack Foundation is better since it gives some freedome (flexibility) to local user group. LF is really tight on their policy.
14:31:04 <studarus> CNCF is giving $$$ in swag to meetup groups - it is real nice
14:31:25 <studarus> we spoke about doing that through an OpenStack swag store but I don't think it got off the ground
14:31:36 <studarus> it would be nice to support the local user groups with swag
14:33:32 <studarus> time is up?
14:33:37 <jayahn> my opinion might be a bit biased since Korea has a well-established local user groups that can do things on its own. :) Flexibility was "a really needed point" for us to run local days combining openstack, kubernetes, ceph, and even ocp together. Since most of participants are same people.
14:33:40 <jayahn> yeap. :)
14:33:42 <jayahn> time is up
14:34:01 <studarus> #endmeeting