13:30:31 <melsakhawy> #startmeeting uc 13:30:33 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Apr 16 13:30:31 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is melsakhawy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:30:34 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:30:36 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'uc' 13:31:19 <jayahn> o/ 13:31:30 <melsakhawy> o/ 13:31:36 <melsakhawy> hey jayahn 13:31:40 <jayahn> hi 13:32:00 <melsakhawy> #topic Merger Diiscussion 13:32:16 <melsakhawy> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc 13:32:44 <melsakhawy> so we had two items we wanted to think about last time 13:33:16 <melsakhawy> first one was the AUC/ATC , weather we want to merge them them or other options 13:35:07 <melsakhawy> I rethought about the merger, and considering that some of the work of TC will include UC's responsibilities 13:35:32 <jayahn> yes, it will 13:35:57 <melsakhawy> I think the merger idea of the lists makes sense 13:36:39 <jayahn> does ATC have any sort of right on anything? rather than cating vote on TC election? 13:36:43 <melsakhawy> Initiially I didn't like the idea of having members vote on committies that they are not involved in their work, but since it's going to be a single body, it does make sense 13:37:19 <jayahn> and i agree with you 13:37:28 <melsakhawy> Not really sure. But from Thierry's email, I got the idea that it's only voting rights 13:39:18 <jayahn> then, we can probably consider having a unified one (for instance, AC? active contributor), rather than ATC and AUC? 13:39:43 <melsakhawy> yeah that sounds like a good idea 13:40:03 <melsakhawy> not sure of implications to the bylaws 13:40:23 <melsakhawy> but we can put the idea out 13:41:24 <melsakhawy> so it seems we'r in support of a merger of the ATC and AUC, that's likely to make things happen much faster 13:42:08 <jayahn> yeap 13:43:18 <melsakhawy> good , so the second point we wanted to discuss is the timeline. Upcoming elections for UC are in August 13:43:21 <jayahn> personally, having one name as Active Contributor will have a positive impact on community participation. 13:43:38 <melsakhawy> yeah agreed 13:45:39 <melsakhawy> so for the timeline , with 4 months to complete the merger if we want not to hold other elections 13:46:10 <jayahn> it seems. will it be feasible plan to complete the merger withink four months? 13:46:47 <melsakhawy> I think it highly depends on if everyone is supportive of the approach 13:47:04 <melsakhawy> there'll probably have to be a transition period, where we attend TC meetings 13:48:04 <jayahn> then, it is somewhat up to the current TC member's willingness to make it happen. 13:48:30 <melsakhawy> to some extent , yes 13:49:08 <melsakhawy> the plan has to be approved on both ends for it to be adopted fast 13:49:36 <melsakhawy> I am thinking to draft an email with our view on the merger , highlighting what we agreed we want to see in the merged committee 13:49:54 <melsakhawy> and share it by you then send it to the list to get the discussion going 13:50:29 <melsakhawy> this way the debate can happen and we try to get the ball rolling 13:50:46 <melsakhawy> what do you think ? 13:51:19 <jayahn> that sounds good. 13:52:03 <melsakhawy> perfect 13:52:26 <melsakhawy> I don't have any new items except I need to follow up on the Ambassador program revamp with someone from the foundation 13:52:35 <melsakhawy> any new items on your side ? 13:53:13 <jayahn> sorry, my irc client had some problem 13:54:09 <melsakhawy> I was actually asking if you had any new items on your side ? 13:54:25 <jayahn> no, not from me 13:55:14 <melsakhawy> okay , so I will work on that email draft and share it with you, hopefully before next week's meeting 13:55:20 <melsakhawy> then we go from there 13:55:46 <jayahn> okay. sounds like a good action plan. thanks for taking this upfront 13:56:02 <melsakhawy> no worries. Thanks jayahn 13:56:09 <melsakhawy> have a good rest of your day 13:56:43 <melsakhawy> #endmeeting