17:03:54 <hartsocks> #startmeeting vmwareapi
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17:04:09 <hartsocks> Hi folks.
17:04:20 <hartsocks> We're closing in on a blueprint deadline.
17:04:39 <hartsocks> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule
17:05:11 <hartsocks> March 6th is the official FF for IceHouse … but I think it's good form for those of us with open blueprints to have things ready to go early.
17:06:01 <hartsocks> I've got about 5 blueprints I'm either contributing to or running down myself and 2 of them are going to be close.
17:06:13 <hartsocks> But on that note...
17:06:18 <hartsocks> #topic blueprints
17:06:33 <hartsocks> Who has a blueprint they need to discuss?
17:07:00 <hartsocks> BTW
17:07:02 <hartsocks> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-icehouse
17:07:17 <vincent_hou> I have just registered a new one.
17:07:48 <hartsocks> It's past proposal deadline but if it is important enough we could get an exception
17:07:50 <hartsocks> linke?
17:07:52 <hartsocks> link/
17:07:54 <hartsocks> ?
17:07:56 <vincent_hou> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/driver-specific-snapshot
17:08:13 <vincent_hou> The idea came from the vmware driver.
17:08:56 <vincent_hou> It is an implementation of the snapshot, which could be specific to a certain driver.
17:09:18 <vincent_hou> I know vmware has different implementation for snapshot.
17:09:52 * hartsocks reading
17:10:11 <tjones> vincent_hou: any reason we couldn't push this to juno ?  just asking cause it's very late in the cycle
17:10:31 <hartsocks> yeah. I was about to ask that.
17:10:38 <hartsocks> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-juno
17:10:55 <hartsocks> I've placed that on the list for Juno. We've not prioritized yet.
17:11:36 <hartsocks> I've not looked at that pad recently so the statuses for Juno BP may be wrong.
17:11:58 <hartsocks> vincent_hou: sound good?
17:12:10 <vincent_hou> Yep
17:12:17 <hartsocks> okay.
17:12:31 <hartsocks> I like the idea a lot.
17:13:14 <vincent_hou> I have sent a mail to Shawn and Tracy before about some new features.
17:13:29 <hartsocks> Maybe we can meet at the design summit and discuss it.
17:13:35 <tjones> sounds good
17:13:50 <tjones> sorry i have not gotten back to you - swammped with end of icehouse stff
17:13:56 <tjones> stuff
17:14:09 <garyk> sorry for joining late. stuck in traffic
17:14:16 <hartsocks> vincent_hou: yeah, this is a critical time for delivering icehouse code.
17:14:22 <hartsocks> garyk: welcome
17:14:29 <vincent_hou> tjones: that is OK.
17:14:31 <garyk> hi. thanks
17:15:13 <hartsocks> So with the icehouse deadline coming up… does anyone have any other blueprints they need to coordinate on? get help with? need reviews on?
17:16:39 <vincent_hou> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34903/
17:16:45 <garyk> we seem to have been getting nice reviews lately. hope it continues
17:17:01 <tjones> it sounded to me like deferral would be starting next week on BP that are done far enough along..
17:17:04 <vincent_hou> Can everyone take look at this?
17:17:24 <garyk> vincent_hou: i will look at that tomorrow. last time i checked it looked good and it looks like you addressed most comments. tahnks!
17:17:30 <garyk> thanks
17:17:33 <vincent_hou> greate
17:17:43 <vincent_hou> thanks, Gary.
17:17:50 <johnthetubaguy> tjones: yep, we are deferring stuff that is not ready for core review already
17:18:05 <hartsocks> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/deploy-vcenter-templates-from-vmware-nova-driver
17:18:28 <hartsocks> vincent_hou: looks like that BP is already deferred to 'next'
17:18:42 <vincent_hou> OK.
17:19:18 <hartsocks> yeah. sorry. both issues you brought up have already been pushed to Juno. It's very late in the cycle.
17:19:55 <garyk> there could be a slight chance it gets in if we have enough karma (that is +1's or 2's)
17:20:12 <hartsocks> we would have to apply for an approval exception
17:21:38 <hartsocks> FFE is what they are called
17:21:49 <hartsocks> (if anyone didn't already know)
17:21:54 <hartsocks> Feature Freeze Exception
17:24:54 <tjones> johnthetubaguy: when things are deferred would we expect them to disappear from https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/icehouse-3
17:25:49 <johnthetubaguy> tjones: unless I screwed up, yes
17:26:00 <hartsocks> Is there anything else to discuss on this topic? We can chat outside the meeting on #openstack-vmware if people need to discuss how to ask for an exception on the template blueprint.
17:26:06 <johnthetubaguy> tjones: the comments should describe why
17:26:45 <tjones> im asking cause this one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-image-cache-management is still there, but the comment says moved to next and i know it's VERY close to merging (already has 1 +2)
17:27:18 <tjones> so i would have been surprised to see it defer
17:29:30 <hartsocks> johnthetubaguy: above comment
17:29:53 <johnthetubaguy> tjones: looking
17:30:42 <johnthetubaguy> tjones: target milestone and service goal are still icehouse, so I guess it got missed
17:30:49 <johnthetubaguy> which patches matter
17:31:16 <tjones> johnthetubaguy: most have merged already.  i think this is the last bit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56416/
17:34:06 <johnthetubaguy> tjones: yes, but it depends on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63933/37
17:34:36 <tjones> johnthetubaguy: ah yes i see that one now
17:34:39 <tjones> those 2
17:34:39 <garyk> johnthetubaguy: yes, that is correct
17:34:54 <garyk> those 2 pacthes have been in revoe since middle of january.
17:34:59 <johnthetubaguy> I updated the blueprint so its easy to see whats left now
17:35:06 <garyk> johnthetubaguy: thanks!
17:35:19 <hartsocks> awesome.
17:35:19 <johnthetubaguy> no reason to defer that for sure
17:35:36 <tjones> johnthetubaguy: thanks
17:35:38 <garyk> great. wonderful news
17:36:30 <hartsocks> Do we have any other BP that need to be covered just now?
17:37:01 <vincent_hou> I have got a few new features to add for VMware drivers, and I can make a list with links for them. Can I send to everyone for review tomorrow?
17:37:13 <vincent_hou> Is it ok for everyone?
17:37:48 <hartsocks> vincient_hou: could you use #openstack-vmware for that?
17:37:59 <garyk> vincent_hou: can you please elaborate about the new features
17:38:05 <tjones> vincent_hou: sure - but realize that we are pretty focused on icehouse BP right now.  but we are happy to look at stuff and talk at the summit.  don;t want you to feel you are being ignored if we don;t reply quickly
17:38:37 <vincent_hou> OK.
17:38:47 <hartsocks> vincient_hou: so, yeah. Lots of new feature talk needs to be deferred to Juno.
17:38:57 <rgerganov> hi, sorry for being late
17:39:21 <hartsocks> rgerganov: we were just finishing up blueprint talk for icehouse-3
17:39:36 <rgerganov> hartsocks, ok thanks
17:40:48 <hartsocks> Some folks may have work they want to bring up for Juno and may want to use the design summit time to discuss that.
17:41:35 <tjones> hartsocks: actually - we probably want to come up with the list head of the summit so we know what we want to discuss ;-)
17:41:52 <vincent_hou> yes.
17:41:52 <hartsocks> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-juno
17:42:09 <hartsocks> yeah. I did mean *that*
17:42:10 <tjones> hartsocks: perfect
17:42:52 <hartsocks> So let's see about what we want to try and do in Juno and prep for May's summit after the Feature Freeze has passed.
17:43:14 <hartsocks> We can use the etherpad to keep notes for later discussion.
17:43:31 <hartsocks> Shall I move on to bugs?
17:43:48 <hartsocks> #topic bugs
17:44:13 <hartsocks> tjones: you're running the bug-scrub now any thing we should be more vigilant on?
17:45:26 <tjones> tagging would help - i found some obvious vmware ones that were not tagged.  we just tried to tag all untagged bugs today.  after that triage of vmware bugs
17:46:08 <hartsocks> I've been bad about keeping up on priority in the vmware queue lately. I'll take some time to examine the queue today.
17:46:46 <hartsocks> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage
17:47:33 <tjones> also i have a report of bugs that are assigned but are not being touched.   we will be unassigning them so others can pick them up
17:47:44 <tjones> particularly new people looking for bugs to work on
17:47:44 <hartsocks> nice
17:47:58 <browne> how long is consider untouched?
17:48:06 <tjones> 2 months
17:48:21 <tjones> i just made that number up but it seems right to me
17:48:22 <hartsocks> that's more than fair really
17:48:40 <browne> yep that's fine
17:48:46 <tjones> i'll do vmw bugs first and see if i get yelled at
17:48:57 <hartsocks> heh
17:49:46 <hartsocks> I used to send a note via Launchpad every time I unassigned someone. I only ever caught flack once.
17:50:11 <hartsocks> okay. so...
17:50:16 <hartsocks> #topic open discusson
17:50:46 <rgerganov> what permissions do I need to set bug importance ?
17:51:03 <rgerganov> I recently filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1284658 and I want to set it Low
17:51:21 <hartsocks> done
17:51:54 <hartsocks> I don't know what permission I got handed back in Havana but suddenly I've been given the awesome super power of setting bug priority.
17:52:25 <garyk> you need to join the nova bugs team then you can change the priorities
17:52:29 <tjones> wow!
17:52:41 <rgerganov> garyk, thanks, that answer my question
17:53:14 <hartsocks> I guess someone must have just added me to the nova bugs team I don't think I knew to join.
17:53:51 <hartsocks> Although techincially
17:53:59 <hartsocks> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1284658
17:54:06 <hartsocks> needs to be triaged first
17:54:46 <hartsocks> +1 on the iterator idea though
17:55:26 <rgerganov> hartsocks, yeah, I think an iterator would fit nicely here
17:55:27 <tjones> rgerganov: congrats on your vnc port merge
17:55:34 <rgerganov> tjones, thanks
17:58:27 <rgerganov> ndipanov was kind enough to review some of my work
17:58:57 <hartsocks> any objection to ending 5 minutes early?
17:58:57 <hartsocks> I think we all know what we need to focus on the next 7 days.
17:58:57 <hartsocks> Okay. Thanks for attending the meeting everyone.
17:59:19 <ndipanov> rgerganov, yeah - would like to see that refactoring soon... but really nice work
18:00:02 <hartsocks> we're over on #openstack-vmware if folks still need to chat (and it doesn't fit on the main channels)
18:00:19 <hartsocks> otherwise we need to yield the room
18:00:24 <hartsocks> #endmeeting