17:01:07 <tjones> #startmeeting vmwareapi 17:01:07 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Apr 16 17:01:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tjones. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:09 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:11 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'vmwareapi' 17:01:19 <browne> hi 17:01:19 <tjones> hi folks - who is here today? 17:01:37 <tjones> listening..... 17:01:43 <dims> o/ 17:02:04 <tjones> hey dims - haven't seen you around in a while - welcome 17:02:15 * mdbooth is here briefly 17:02:38 <dims> tjones, :) 17:03:06 <tjones> ok mdbooth - i wanted to get an update from you - so lets flip the agenda for a minute and go right to pyvmomi. last meeting you and ssurana were going to look into it. any progress? 17:03:33 <tjones> #topic pyvmomi 17:04:47 <sabari> Hey all 17:05:46 <tjones> mdbooth: im guessing no progress since no response. I'll ping again next week 17:05:51 <tjones> lets move on to BP 17:05:57 <tjones> #topic Blueprints 17:06:14 <tjones> anyone have something they would like to discuss here? 17:06:50 <tjones> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova-specs+message:vmware,n,z 17:07:26 <browne> not sure what to do with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-encrypt-vcenter-passwords 17:07:45 <tjones> *looking* 17:08:07 <browne> Joe Gordon reviewed the nova-spec and would like a more general solution that addresses passwords for rabbit, database connections, etc 17:08:30 <browne> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85510/ 17:08:39 <tjones> thanks was just searching for that 17:09:19 <tjones> his comment makes sense and i wonder if it should be something in oslo then? 17:09:19 <browne> might need to go back to the drawing board and propose something different 17:09:38 <tjones> browne: that's ok (to restart) 17:09:50 <mdbooth> Sorry, was driving. Also, I'm on a phone. 17:10:04 <browne> nobody likes the idea of encrypting those password strings either. 17:10:26 <tjones> mdbooth: lets wait to talk until you are out of the car 17:10:52 <mdbooth> Then I'll be gone 17:11:10 <mdbooth> I can catch up tomorrow, though 17:11:20 <tjones> mdbooth: that's fine. thanks 17:11:22 <mdbooth> Have looked at pyvmomi 17:11:53 <tjones> browne: im looking - it doesn't look like what you have proposed is very far off from a general solution at 1st glance 17:11:59 <mdbooth> tjones: ok, will lurk until I disconnect 17:12:05 <browne> fyi, the ssh key injection blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-inject-ssh-key, might be a no-op. 17:12:35 <sabari> browne: did you get a chance to try cloud-init images ? 17:12:36 <browne> after talking with sabari and researching, ssh key injection should already work as long as the image has cloud-init installed 17:12:58 <browne> sabari: still working on downloading ubuntu 13. taking forever 17:12:58 <tjones> browne: cool 17:13:05 <sabari> browne: :) 17:13:16 <browne> our default debian image does not have cloud-init 17:13:33 <tjones> browne: we should prob build a new one with it 17:13:41 <tjones> so anything else on BP? 17:13:45 <browne> and can't be installed either since cloud-init is in the unstable/testing repo of debian. i tried with no luck 17:13:51 <mdbooth> Libguestfs is excellent at guest mods 17:14:03 * mdbooth used to work on it 17:14:26 <mdbooth> Can detect guest os 17:14:29 <browne> looked at libguestfs, which i think gets complicated with vcenter in there 17:14:49 <mdbooth> Doesn't have to 17:15:15 <browne> plus it requires ssh enabled, no? 17:15:40 <mdbooth> It could use https with light mods 17:16:09 <browne> mdbooth: ok, maybe we can get together and discuss later. i'd like to understand more 17:16:19 <mdbooth> Ok. 17:16:43 * mdbooth still has commit on libguestfs 17:16:56 <tjones> #action browne and mdbooth discuss libguestfs offline 17:17:18 <tjones> any other BP for discussion? 17:18:00 <tjones> ok moving on to the summitt 17:18:05 <tjones> #summit 17:18:12 <tjones> #topic summit 17:18:45 <tjones> we have very few talks proposed for the summit - only 2 so far. the deadline for proposal is the 20th (4 days from now) 17:19:22 <tjones> any topics specific to the vmware driver that we need to discuss at the summit? 17:19:50 <sabari> host/node was something I wanted to talk about but it's already part of http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/145 17:20:01 <dims> tjones, has anyone picked up the new abstraction layer for vcenter/hyperv/ovirt stuff that we know of? 17:20:58 <dims> ah same topic as sabari's question :) 17:21:01 <tjones> dims: kinda - take a look at http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/145 and see if that is what you mean 17:21:03 <tjones> yes 17:21:15 <browne> i believe i saw on the ML there was a 3rd CI topic. might want to attend that one 17:21:23 <browne> 3rd party CI 17:22:32 <tjones> anything else we are missing? 17:23:15 <dims> any progress/talk about how oslo.vmware should work? 17:23:35 <tjones> dims: that could be very useful 17:24:05 <tjones> dims: do you want to propose that ? 17:24:17 <sabari> tjones: is there something about standardizing image metadata across hypervisors ? 17:24:20 <sabari> I am not able to find, but I remember was discussed at the mid-cycle. 17:24:25 <dims> tjones, i was hoping the people working on it actively would 17:24:43 <tjones> dims: i can talk to them. i don't think they are at this meeting today 17:24:48 <dims> possibly arnaud? 17:24:54 <sabari> tjones: can check with vipin, garyk, arnaud 17:25:08 <tjones> yes they are the ones i was thinking of 17:25:28 <tjones> #link http://summit.openstack.org 17:25:54 <tjones> sabari: i don't see anything that looks like that 17:26:15 <sabari> tjones: okay, not something I wanted to propose, but wanted to be part of :) 17:26:21 <tjones> lol 17:26:34 <tjones> well proposing just means you could lead the discussion 17:26:43 <tjones> you don't have to have all the answers 17:27:07 <tjones> #action ask vipin, arnaud, gary to propose a session on using oslo.vmware 17:27:22 <dims> +1 assign work to folks who are not here :) 17:27:22 <sabari> tjones: but i don't intent to standardize it yet :) 17:27:42 <tjones> #action see if anyone want to lead a session on standardizing image meta-data 17:29:00 <tjones> what about the issue that came up during image cache - multiple n-cpu accessing the same datastore and potentially messing eachother up (that's the technical description) 17:30:06 <tjones> http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/145guess that could be part of http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/145 a 17:30:09 <sabari> hmm yup that's a problem because all of them will try to fill up the temp directory. 17:30:34 <tjones> sabari: yes there are several issues there 17:30:49 <sabari> need to understand what ll happen with arnaud's patch with locking in place 17:31:02 <sabari> let me post it 17:31:17 <tjones> ok any other summit topics? 17:31:43 <sabari> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75551/ 17:31:56 <sabari> I will investigate or check with him 17:32:14 <tjones> ok thanks 17:32:34 <tjones> ok lets talk about refactoring 17:32:40 <tjones> #topic refactoring 17:32:55 <tjones> the phase 1 patches are all in and i am rebasing over and over as they get reviewed 17:33:34 <tjones> shawn has the phase 2 in review and there are issues and jenkins issues too. 17:33:45 <sabari> there some pep8 failures or so 17:33:45 <tjones> vui is not here unfortunately to talk about his part 17:34:25 <tjones> sabari: i fixed that this am and rebased 17:34:35 <sabari> tjones: great! 17:35:03 <tjones> please help out an review the phase 1 patches listed in #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-spawn-refactor 17:35:32 <browne> will do 17:35:46 <tjones> #topic other patches 17:35:55 <tjones> any other patches people want to discuss? 17:36:55 <tjones> *listening* 17:37:30 <tjones> #topic bugs 17:37:32 <sabari> strangely the bug fix patches are MIA :) should take a look at the bugs and look for imp ones. 17:37:41 <sabari> awesome :) 17:37:57 <tjones> we have a bunch of un-owned bugs - here is an ugly link 17:38:01 <tjones> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=vmware+&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_ 17:38:11 <tjones> 13 with no owner. help yourself to a bug ;-) 17:38:27 <tjones> sabari: which ones were you referring to? 17:39:11 <tjones> here's an ugly link to the inprogress bugs 17:39:14 <tjones> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=vmware+&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.us 17:39:25 <tjones> sorry should use a tinyyrl 17:40:10 <sabari> tjones: nothing in particular, I was just looking for new reviews and there were far less bug fixes than usual. 17:41:32 <sabari> tjones: thankts for the links 17:41:46 <sabari> I ll scout for the important ones. 17:43:13 <tjones> garryk has a good query but i cannot find it 17:43:33 <tjones> #topic open discussion 17:43:40 <tjones> anyone have a topic for today? 17:44:26 <tjones> (btw the link was #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+message:vmware,n,z) 17:45:21 <tjones> if not we can stop early 17:45:42 <tjones> listening for slow typers..... 17:46:11 <tjones> thanks all. talk to you next week 17:46:14 <sabari> tjones: okay! 17:46:14 <tjones> #endmeeting