14:00:49 <alexchadin> #startmeeting watcher
14:00:49 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jan 24 14:00:49 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:01:05 <alexchadin> hi
14:01:26 <hidekazu> hi
14:01:31 <alexchadin> Agenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#01.2F24.2F2018
14:01:56 <alexchadin> hidekazu: let's wait 5 minutes for other people?
14:02:06 <hidekazu> alexchadin: yes
14:03:02 <alexchadin> hidekazu: I hope we close most of Queens blueprints :)
14:03:28 <hidekazu> alexchadin: we may need to have meeting at more asian european friendly time.
14:03:44 <alexchadin> hidekazu: I agree
14:04:03 <hidekazu> alexchadin: lets add it to ptg agenda.
14:04:37 <alexchadin> hidekazu: done
14:04:43 <hidekazu> alexchadin: thanks.
14:05:02 <alexchadin> hidekazu: I've added it to "What should be improved" section
14:06:03 <hidekazu> alexchadin: i confirmed.
14:06:35 <alexchadin> well, 5 minutes passed, let's move on
14:06:43 <alexchadin> #topic Announcements
14:06:48 <alexchadin> We're going to release queens-3 today.
14:08:14 <alexchadin> once zone migration, storage spec and strategy requirements are merged, I will create release
14:08:39 <alexchadin> Call for Presentations is opened, deadline is February 8th
14:10:01 <alexchadin> hidekazu: do you have any ideas about presentations?
14:10:21 <hidekazu> alexchadin: unfortunately no.
14:11:26 <hidekazu> alexchadin: do you have project update session?
14:11:29 <adisky__> hi
14:11:37 <alexchadin> adisky__: hi
14:11:38 <adisky__> sorry for joining late
14:11:39 <hidekazu> adisky__: hi
14:12:11 <hidekazu> adisky__: i heard it snowed even in india.
14:12:43 <alexchadin> hidekazu: I haven't applied for PU yet
14:12:56 <adisky__> hidekazu: yes it snows in india as well but at highert altitudes :)
14:12:59 <hidekazu> alexchadin: i see
14:13:01 <alexchadin> hidekazu: I'm not sure if I go to Vancouver
14:13:33 <hidekazu> alexchadin: i can not go summit without having session.
14:14:00 <adisky__> alexchadin: hidekazu : we should have a project update session as two new strategies will be there in queens
14:14:25 <alexchadin> hidekazu: I will apply for PU :)
14:15:28 <hidekazu> alexchadin: nice
14:15:51 <alexchadin> adisky__: will you go to PTG?
14:16:24 <adisky__> alexchadin: i will try my best, but our company does not make things clear so early :)
14:17:10 <alexchadin> adisky__: ah, then let me know if you get confirmation
14:17:18 <adisky__> alexchadin: sure
14:18:18 <alexchadin> PTL nominations starts on 29th January.
14:18:24 <alexchadin> #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/
14:19:33 <alexchadin> I'll apply my candidacy
14:19:55 <alexchadin> since this project takes 80% of my work time
14:20:05 <adisky__> alexchadin: +1
14:20:10 <hidekazu> alexchadin: 80% nice
14:21:29 <alexchadin> We need to work on adding PTG topics here. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-watcher-ptg
14:22:08 <alexchadin> hidekazu: thank you for your contribution to the topics
14:22:38 <hidekazu> alexchadin: we need discussion.
14:22:41 <alexchadin> I continue to filling them up
14:22:50 <alexchadin> hidekazu: I agree
14:24:13 <alexchadin> adisky__: I would be happy if you add something you want to share with us :)
14:24:39 <adisky__> alexchadin: i will add the scaling up things, that we were discussing
14:24:54 <alexchadin> adisky__: any feedback is welcome
14:25:01 <alexchadin> adisky__: +1
14:25:24 <adisky__> alexchadin: and i was thinking should we increase watcher optimizations to containers also??
14:25:36 <alexchadin> I will complete list of blueprints to discuss each of them on PTG
14:25:47 <alexchadin> adisky__: ah, that's old question :)
14:26:04 <adisky__> alexchadin: yea, but i dont know the answer
14:26:10 <hidekazu> haha
14:26:46 <alexchadin> adisky__: hidekazu: can we migrate containers in live or cold mode at least
14:26:46 <hidekazu> adisky__: you can add it to ptg agenda.
14:26:46 <alexchadin> ?
14:27:21 <adisky__> alexchadin: i dont think a direct approach is available
14:27:37 <hidekazu> alexchadin: adisky__: kubernetes is container orchestration standard.
14:27:50 <hidekazu> kubernetes has self-healing.
14:28:31 <adisky__> hidekazu: yes, but i think kubernetes do not migrate containers, its spawns up new one with the image
14:29:18 <hidekazu> adisky__: i do not know container can migrate.
14:29:28 <adisky__> and there are projects like zun, which do not use kubernetes can levarage watcher to do optimization
14:29:46 <adisky__> hidekazu: same here
14:30:26 <alexchadin> I propose for us to get more knowledge about self-healing in containers and discuss it on PTG
14:30:37 <hidekazu> adisky__: kill and spawn new container is only way. personally i do not believe zun becomes used widely.
14:30:38 <adisky__> alexchadin: +1
14:30:53 <hidekazu> alexchadin: ok
14:31:28 <alexchadin> we should be prepared to get valuable results of PTG
14:31:47 <adisky__> alexchadin: hidekazu: i think we should also think about some particular strategies that focus on NFV and Edge computing, so that watcher used by more companies in production
14:32:25 <alexchadin> adisky__: you want to use neutron somehow in Watcher?
14:32:26 <hidekazu> adisky__: you read last discussion topic??
14:32:57 <adisky__> hidekazu: no.
14:33:24 <alexchadin> adisky__: hidekazu has already written about NFV in Agenda :)
14:33:25 <adisky__> alexchadin: At this point i don't know, need to research!
14:33:37 <adisky__> alexchadin: yea, i see
14:34:20 <alexchadin> adisky__: I've got requests from my colleagues and manager, I'll add them too
14:35:15 <alexchadin> Review Action Items
14:35:18 <alexchadin> Watcher
14:35:24 <alexchadin> Strategy requirements needs final core review
14:35:29 <alexchadin> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522538/
14:35:29 <adisky__> alexchadin: if you are not travelling to summit and have any ideas related to watcher, please suggest them as watcher will gain more popularity if no. of sessions is high.
14:36:05 <alexchadin> adisky__: sure
14:36:39 <alexchadin> adisky__: after PTG we will announce main tasks for Rocky cycle
14:37:18 <adisky__> alexchadin:+1
14:37:24 <alexchadin> hidekazu: I've missed you w+1
14:37:38 <alexchadin> hidekazu: thanks!
14:37:55 <alexchadin> Add baremetal strategy validation needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/537356/
14:38:35 <alexchadin> adisky__: could you please review it?
14:39:25 <adisky__> alexchadin: +1
14:40:43 <alexchadin> adisky__: we need to merge it ASAP
14:40:54 <adisky__> alexchadin: today itself??
14:41:10 <alexchadin> Add zone migration strategy is going to be merged
14:42:57 <alexchadin> adisky__: I would like to make release today
14:43:02 <hidekazu> alexchadin: zone migration will have merge conflict with strategy requirement.
14:43:19 <adisky__> alexchadin: i did +2
14:43:49 <alexchadin> hidekazu: why?
14:44:32 <hidekazu> alexchadin: both updates strategy base
14:45:01 <hidekazu> alexchadin: ah, but not same line.
14:45:13 <alexchadin> hidekazu: there is no intersections
14:45:32 <hidekazu> alexchadin: yeah, i misunderstood.
14:46:16 <alexchadin> Watcher CLI
14:46:25 <alexchadin> Add strategy state command needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523422/
14:46:31 <alexchadin> it should be merged as well
14:46:47 <hidekazu> 8 weeks ago!
14:47:06 <alexchadin> hidekazu: perfect things shouldn't be updated :P
14:47:47 <alexchadin> I will update blueprints and releasenotes by end of this week
14:49:51 <alexchadin> I think that's enough for today
14:49:53 <adisky__> alexchadin: i reviewed, at one go it looks fine :)
14:50:48 <hidekazu> alexchadin: one nit
14:51:55 <alexchadin> hidekazu: check out]
14:51:56 <hidekazu> bye
14:52:15 <adisky__> bye
14:53:48 <alexchadin> bye
14:53:51 <alexchadin> #endmeeting