20:01:20 <diablo_rojo_> #startmeeting women_of_openstack
20:01:21 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Feb  5 20:01:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is diablo_rojo_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:02:09 <diablo_rojo_> spotz, diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, SWDevAngel__, eeiden
20:02:09 <diablo_rojo_> There is no bot :(
20:02:24 <spotz> We have a bot
20:02:51 <diablo_rojo_> Its a pretty short agenda today.
20:02:59 <diablo_rojo_> So I will go throught the admin stuff first until some people show up :)
20:03:01 <annabelleB> o/
20:03:48 <diablo_rojo_> First on the admin list, User Committee nominations are open!
20:03:48 <diablo_rojo_> Nominate yourself by sending an email to user-committee@lists.openstack.org with the subject "UC Candidacy"
20:03:48 <diablo_rojo_> Oh, I should have shared the agenda when I started the meeting.
20:04:13 <diablo_rojo_> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/WOS_Agenda_Tracker Agenda
20:04:30 <annabelleB> are there any users attending today that we can push to nominate themselves? ;)
20:04:40 <spotz> Make sure you're a AUC first, we had to turn down one nomination last time
20:05:02 <diablo_rojo_> Next on the admin list, PTL nominations are open!
20:05:02 <diablo_rojo_> #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/#queens-ptl-candidates
20:05:21 <spotz> 2 women so far nominated:)
20:05:26 <diablo_rojo_> It would be really awesome to see some kickass ladies step into these roles!
20:06:14 <diablo_rojo_> Two women on the TC last election was awesome. Lets take over governance :)
20:06:14 <diablo_rojo_> #topic CFP
20:06:24 <spotz> I think one was Melanie Witt and the other was Julia Kreiger
20:06:38 <diablo_rojo_> The CFP for Vancouver is still open for a few more days! You have until the 8th to get your awesome ideas in.
20:07:25 <diablo_rojo_> Usually there are some emails that float around about making a WOO panel. Havent seen any of those yet.
20:08:11 <spotz> Yeah Nicole usually had one panel going at the least
20:08:13 <diablo_rojo_> If you are interested in submitting, but don't have the courage, give our awesome podacast a listen!
20:08:13 <diablo_rojo_> link http://3e0938c72320c1e97db5-a29d7d5063cc8716c60b936b269f2da7.r31.cf1.rackcdn.com/woo%20cfp%20talk.mp3 CFP Podcast
20:08:25 <annabelleB> hm…do we have anything to present on separate from the WOO lunch? (i’m assuming there’s a WOO lunch scheduled for Van)
20:08:36 <diablo_rojo_> Hopefully we will get rolling on a follow up to that one soon about what to do when you hear back about if your talk has been accepted or not.
20:09:00 <diablo_rojo_> But first you have to submit your talks before that even matters!
20:09:00 <spotz> Git and Gerrit is in if anyone is interested in. Still working on others
20:09:11 <spotz> Do we have any WoO sponsores yet?
20:09:23 <diablo_rojo_> #topic PTG
20:10:10 <diablo_rojo_> There will be a number of events in the evenings at the PTG, should have more concrete details about all of that soon.
20:11:20 <diablo_rojo_> There will for sure be a woo happy hour wednesday though. So if you are going to be at the PTG, and will be around Wednesday evening, add your name to the list!
20:11:20 <diablo_rojo_> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DUB_WOO_HH Woo HH
20:11:43 <diablo_rojo_> #topic Mentoring
20:12:30 <diablo_rojo_> This is the last topic we have on the agenda today... but since there isn't anyone here but me today, I think I might hold it till next meeting.
20:12:49 <spotz> Ok
20:13:56 <spotz> Ok that was weird
20:14:01 <annabelleB> I wonder if the time change got some folks confused and that’s why we’re empty
20:14:04 <rockyg> o/
20:14:14 <rockyg> I just got in...
20:14:22 <Angeh> Okay...!!!
20:14:31 <spotz> Hey rockyg
20:14:33 <annabelleB> hi rockyg! we had a very small agenda today and were just about through it
20:14:50 <annabelleB> but also wondering if people were anticipating showing up an hour later….
20:14:53 <rockyg> Oops!  Well, glad I didn't miss you.
20:14:54 <spotz> I'm wondering if Kendall could see us. She didn't think the bot was here
20:15:28 <diablo_rojo_> rockyg, spotz my client just had a siezure
20:15:30 <diablo_rojo_> I can see you now lol
20:15:33 <rockyg> Looks like she has the bot on her computer, but not on her phone.
20:15:36 <diablo_rojo_> So from my view I was talking to myself for 15 min lol.
20:15:37 <annabelleB> agenda is here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/WOS_Agenda_Tracker
20:15:40 <rockyg> Ouch!
20:15:50 <Angeh> I was here
20:15:50 <annabelleB> oh really?
20:15:54 <diablo_rojo_> Should I just start over?
20:15:54 <spotz> diablo_rojo_: I was wondering cause I was talking with you and then you where like no one's here but me!
20:15:55 <annabelleB> haha shall we take it from the top?
20:15:56 <diablo_rojo_> Lol
20:16:02 <diablo_rojo_> Ha ha ha ha ha
20:16:14 <diablo_rojo_> Okay, so it the meetbot recording currently?
20:16:21 <rockyg> At least it was a sw client, not a human ;-)
20:16:34 <spotz> diablo_rojo_: I didn't see any close out messages
20:16:43 <diablo_rojo_> I stopped at the Mentoring topic
20:16:55 <diablo_rojo_> Cuase I wanted to see if more people would show up lol.
20:17:06 <annabelleB> spotz and i don’t mind i’m sure, let’s start from the beginning!
20:17:08 <annabelleB> o/
20:17:14 <diablo_rojo_> Okay.
20:17:17 <spotz> diablo_rojo_: And take 2!
20:17:19 <rockyg> o/
20:17:35 <diablo_rojo_> So todays Agenda
20:17:38 <diablo_rojo_> # link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/WOS_Agenda_Tracker
20:17:45 <diablo_rojo_> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/WOS_Agenda_Tracker
20:17:59 <diablo_rojo_> #topic Administrativa
20:18:10 <diablo_rojo_> User Committee Nominations are open!
20:18:16 <diablo_rojo_> Nominate yourself by sending an email to user-committee@lists.openstack.org with the subject "UC Candidacy"
20:18:40 <spotz> Please make sure you have AUC, last round we had to tell someone they weren't:(
20:18:40 <diablo_rojo_> Also PTL nominations are still open!
20:19:09 <diablo_rojo_> spotz, running into similar with PTLs not having foundation member profiles
20:19:17 <diablo_rojo_> Or them being expired
20:19:18 <rockyg> Yeah, I think the requirements for AUC need to be broadcast
20:19:23 <rockyg> At least right now.
20:19:30 <spotz> As mentioned first time around 2 women running for PTG so far
20:19:33 <rockyg> So folks can make sure they can vote, too
20:19:41 <diablo_rojo_> rockyg, +1
20:20:06 <spotz> From their meeting earlier looks like they're also going to discuss where SIG's stand
20:20:10 <annabelleB> the superuser article that just went up has a link to the AUC reqs, and we can keep putting it in any emails that go out abou nominations
20:20:39 <diablo_rojo_> I think involvement in SIGs is going to count towards AUC
20:20:39 <rockyg> Should be a way to check if you are listed as AUC.  There should be an app for that....
20:20:42 <spotz> In Sydney we talked in one session about a badge on profiles
20:20:45 <diablo_rojo_> but I dont think its for sure yet
20:20:58 <diablo_rojo_> spotz, that would be super helpful
20:21:03 <rockyg> ++
20:21:09 <diablo_rojo_> AUC, ATC, COA, OUI, etc
20:21:12 <spotz> I think Jimmy was going to look into it
20:21:42 <diablo_rojo_> As far as nominations go, it would be great to see more female leadership.
20:21:52 <annabelleB> and first timers too
20:21:57 <diablo_rojo_> Two women on the TC is awesome. Would be good to spread the influence.
20:22:00 <diablo_rojo_> annabelleB, +1
20:22:35 <diablo_rojo_> #topic CFP
20:22:42 <oikiki> hi just jumping in im an intern working on magnum and saying hi
20:22:54 <spotz> Welcome oikiki!
20:22:55 <rockyg> Welcome!
20:22:56 <diablo_rojo_> You all have until Feb 8th to submit talk ideas if you have them!
20:22:57 <annabelleB> hi oikiki! welcome!
20:22:57 <oikiki> hi spotz!
20:23:02 <diablo_rojo_> Welcome oikiki :)
20:23:12 <spotz> Git and Gerrit is in, 2 more in the works
20:23:15 <oikiki> hi annabelleB and diablo_rojo_ !!
20:23:21 <annabelleB> and there’s more than just openstack in Vancouver, so if you’re working in another area, submitttttt!
20:23:34 <annabelleB> (anything open container infra, hpc, edge, etc)
20:23:40 <diablo_rojo_> spotz, awesome :)
20:24:04 <diablo_rojo_> If you need an extra push to get over your fears of submitting, listed to our awesome podcast!
20:24:24 <oikiki> could you share the link to the podcast?
20:24:25 <diablo_rojo_> #link http://3e0938c72320c1e97db5-a29d7d5063cc8716c60b936b269f2da7.r31.cf1.rackcdn.com/woo%20cfp%20talk.mp3 CFP Podcast
20:24:29 <spotz> And if you need help just ask, we can help review
20:24:33 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, got you covered :)
20:24:36 <Angeh> Hi oikiki . Welcome :-)
20:24:45 <oikiki> thank you! and hi Angeh!
20:25:09 <diablo_rojo_> We are also planning to do a follow up podcast on what to do when you hear back from the programming committee- coping with a No or preparing since they said yes.
20:25:15 <Angeh> Nice podcast diablo_rojo_  just listented to it
20:25:57 <diablo_rojo_> Angeh, thanks :) It was super fun to put together with PagliaccisCloud TheJulia, and annabelleB :)
20:26:11 <diablo_rojo_> annabelleB, anything else on the CFP?
20:26:20 <Angeh> Yea. It sure got me encouraged
20:26:21 <annabelleB> just send them IN!
20:26:43 <annabelleB> usually there’s a WOO session of some sort, but I don’t think we have any pressing topics that demand a session this go round
20:26:54 <diablo_rojo_> Angeh, awesome :) If you have something you want to submit and want an extra pair of eyes or some suggestions on how to improve, let annabelleB or spotz or I know.
20:26:56 <oikiki> are past talks recorded? to get an idea of what people talk about?
20:27:12 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, yes there are, let me grab a link
20:27:14 <annabelleB> oikiki: absolutely. at openstack.org/videos you can see them all
20:27:22 <oikiki> oh sweet thank you!
20:27:23 <diablo_rojo_> annabelleB, beat me :)
20:27:43 <spotz> I'm going to do one for Diversity and Inclusion but I was doing it from the Diversity WG side of things
20:27:59 <oikiki> not sure if this go round id be much of a speaker but hopefully this is just the beginning of my work on OpenStack so want to be prepared :)
20:28:27 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, another thing you can do it try to get on someone else's panel.
20:28:29 <spotz> We could still do a WoO panel to diferentian
20:28:36 <diablo_rojo_> That way you arent giving a talk on your own.
20:28:43 <diablo_rojo_> But can still get involved now
20:28:46 <oikiki> how do panels work vs talks?
20:29:01 <oikiki> do you submit to be on a panel? or..?
20:29:10 <spotz> Panel has a moderator and then 2-4 people that they ask questions
20:29:21 <diablo_rojo_> Panels are a conversation between a moderator and up to four others.
20:29:34 <spotz> oikiki: And yeah you submit as a panel, or a presentation or even a workshop
20:29:57 <oikiki> ah
20:30:04 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, you kind of need to know someone that is working on putting one together or you can come up with an idea and moderate and then just ask for volunteers.
20:30:15 <annabelleB> do you have any subjects in mind spotz? not opposed, just couldn’t think of anything different for Van
20:30:34 <diablo_rojo_> annabelleB, same, thats why I hadn't started pushing something.
20:31:28 <spotz> I think we've done thy obstackles faced already. At Open Source Summit we had allies but I'm not sure what the topic was in Syd
20:31:46 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, it might be interesting for you to put a panel together as a new contributor, ask questions from your perspective to those that have more experience.
20:31:53 <diablo_rojo_> What the exact topic would be is up to you.
20:32:00 <diablo_rojo_> Just a thought, no pressure :)
20:32:26 <oikiki> ill consider it diablo_rojo!
20:32:52 <diablo_rojo_> spotz, I don't remember either.
20:33:01 <spotz> Yeah one of my favorites was PTLs aren't scary:)
20:33:14 <spotz> I think that one was in Barcelona
20:33:31 <diablo_rojo_> Could do one on women in governance.
20:33:40 <oikiki> are panels submitted via the presentation submission form or elsewhere?
20:33:57 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, all submitted in the same form
20:34:02 <oikiki> grat
20:34:08 <oikiki> great*
20:34:10 <spotz> oikiki: Same form and you don't have to have anyone but you there just to submit you can add later
20:34:11 <diablo_rojo_> :)
20:34:29 <diablo_rojo_> Okay, I think I am going to move on.
20:34:39 <diablo_rojo_> Reminder the deadline is the 8th.
20:34:48 <diablo_rojo_> #topic PTG
20:34:58 <diablo_rojo_> So, any news spotz ?
20:35:26 <spotz> I'm a no:(
20:35:48 <diablo_rojo_> There are going to be several events in the evening that week aside from the WoO Happy hour, those details should be out soon.
20:36:07 <diablo_rojo_> If you are going to be at the PTG and around Wednesday evening, please add your name to the list!
20:36:12 <spotz> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DUB_WOO_HH
20:36:14 <diablo_rojo_> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DUB_WOO_HH WOO HH
20:36:19 <spotz> heheh
20:36:21 <diablo_rojo_> spotz :)
20:36:33 <diablo_rojo_> I am also planning a game night
20:36:51 <diablo_rojo_> And there will be the standard Event Happy Hour the beginning of the week too.
20:36:55 <rockyg> cool!  Too bad I won't be there, either.
20:37:27 <diablo_rojo_> Hopefully we have more than just vkmc, annabelleB and me..though we would have a ton of fun just the three of us.
20:37:48 <annabelleB> there’s more female contributors than just us!
20:38:09 * diablo_rojo_ might get ahold of registration and try to fish for more people
20:38:17 <spotz> Maybe a mass email of women atendees to invite?
20:38:27 <diablo_rojo_> spotz, yeah, contemplating that.
20:38:41 <spotz> We definitely need to do it before Vancouver
20:38:49 <diablo_rojo_> spotz, agreed
20:39:15 <diablo_rojo_> Anything else on the PTG from anyone?
20:40:01 <Angeh> Yea
20:40:11 <diablo_rojo_> What sup Angeh?
20:40:27 <Angeh> What ever is discussed at the pTG will be sahred with others?
20:40:33 <Angeh> *shared
20:41:05 <diablo_rojo_> Angeh, generally yes, though each project does it differently usually.
20:41:32 <spotz> Most will have an etherpad with notes going for their sessions
20:41:34 <Angeh> Will the be a team meeting for openstack women?
20:41:34 <diablo_rojo_> Some will actually set up to accomodate virtual attendees- google hangouts or zoom meeting or similar.
20:41:48 <diablo_rojo_> Basically all teams take notes and many will post summaries to the ML
20:41:55 <diablo_rojo_> Angeh, no there wont
20:42:02 <Angeh> Ok
20:42:33 <diablo_rojo_> Angeh, the PTG is mostly for project teams. WoO is kind of special where its not focused on delivering a certain project, but isn't a SIG or a WG either.
20:42:43 <spotz> Angeh: The Happy Hour is the closest there will be
20:42:51 <diablo_rojo_> Exactly spotz :)
20:43:21 <Angeh> Ohhh. I get it
20:43:22 <spotz> In Vancouver we'll have a lunch, and 1-2 informal things
20:44:05 <diablo_rojo_> The Project Team Gathering is more focused on technical discussions and implementation of features and roadmapping, release planning, etc
20:45:23 <diablo_rojo_> Am I good to move on now?
20:45:28 <diablo_rojo_> Any other questions? :)
20:46:25 <diablo_rojo_> Okay, I'm gonna move on.
20:46:30 <diablo_rojo_> #topic Mentoring
20:46:45 <diablo_rojo_> So, sounds like people are solid about switching styles.
20:46:51 <annabelleB> awesome!
20:47:20 <oikiki> is there a mentoring program?
20:47:20 <diablo_rojo_> Since the group helping with Mentoring has shrunk to me and ekhugen- when she has a tiny bit of time I think I am going to bring those discussions back here.
20:47:26 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, there is :)
20:47:40 <diablo_rojo_> Its currently going to get changed around format wise
20:47:41 <oikiki> my perpetual question: is there a link? :D
20:47:59 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, yes, but its going to change a ton from what is there.
20:48:03 <oikiki> ah ok
20:48:14 <oikiki> this is for openstack generally or for the conference?
20:48:15 <diablo_rojo_> So, stick around for this convo and share input :) \
20:48:19 <diablo_rojo_> Generally
20:48:24 <oikiki> ah ok nice
20:48:54 <diablo_rojo_> So, in this new format we will have 1-3 mentors to 1-8 mentees focused on completeing some specific goal depending on what sort of mentoring they are interested in.
20:49:03 <diablo_rojo_> Community, Technical, or Career.
20:49:16 <diablo_rojo_> We need to brainstorm goals and come up with a set.
20:49:32 <diablo_rojo_> Technical is fairly straight forward- push a patch and get it merged.
20:50:18 <diablo_rojo_> Could have a goal to write and submit an abstract for a CFP.
20:50:35 <diablo_rojo_> Maybe could expand that one to actually giving a talk.
20:50:45 <diablo_rojo_> I have like no ideas after that though.
20:50:59 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, Angeh as newer community members, what are some goals you have?
20:51:36 <oikiki> I really like the work that I'm doing on OpenStack Magnum for my internship and would like to figure out how to do this as a job.
20:51:49 <oikiki> Because it's awesome!!
20:52:59 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, so maybe a goal to like..tailor your resume/network towards getting a job working on openstack?
20:53:09 <oikiki> yes
20:54:48 <Angeh> Okay. I have gone through the mentoring program
20:55:00 <Angeh> And it is grr. I have made my 1st real pathc:-)
20:55:02 <diablo_rojo_> Okay cool, so the goal would be considered completed when you submit an application? get an inverview? get hired?
20:55:05 <Angeh> *patch
20:55:22 <oikiki> for me get hired
20:55:56 <Angeh> And a couple of reviews
20:55:58 <Angeh> I just found out openstack got accepted for the Google summer of code and i would like to participate in that
20:56:00 <diablo_rojo_> I suppose the criteria for completion could be a little less defined for that one..
20:56:05 <diablo_rojo_> Angeh, that is awesome!
20:56:36 <Angeh> And eventually be an openstack ambassador :-)
20:56:39 <diablo_rojo_> Angeh, I thought gsoc decisions weren't for a few days still
20:56:45 <diablo_rojo_> Angeh, that would be awesome
20:57:20 <spotz> Yeah from an email I have from vmkc last night I think she hadn't heard back yet
20:57:42 <diablo_rojo_> We submitted, but I think the 12th is when we hear back.
20:57:44 <Angeh> :-)
20:57:53 <Angeh> Ok.
20:58:12 <diablo_rojo_> Other goals you two have oikiki and Angeh?
20:58:48 <Angeh> And get hired too
20:58:51 <diablo_rojo_> Trying to keep the goals to attainable within 6ish months.
20:58:53 <diablo_rojo_> Lol
20:59:06 <Angeh> Lol
20:59:34 <diablo_rojo_> We could have one be to spin up devstack and work through the study guide for the COA exam.
20:59:43 <oikiki> I think generally, I'd like to see how OpenStack works in production. I've been doing patches on Magnum for my internship, but it would be great to see how people are using it. Though maybe that's for the summit.
21:00:08 <oikiki> "see" in a more general sense
21:00:09 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, yeah, a lot of that is at the summit and reading the superuser blog.
21:00:17 <oikiki> ah great
21:00:35 <diablo_rojo_> #link http://superuser.openstack.org/ SuperUser
21:01:07 <oikiki> yeah im looking forward to the summit for that reason
21:01:11 <oikiki> thanks for the link
21:01:23 <Angeh> Me too
21:01:26 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, you are attending for sure?
21:01:31 <diablo_rojo_> Angeh, you too?
21:02:03 <oikiki> I'm planning to because I want to meet the team irl
21:02:06 <annabelleB> (not sure if either of you are students, but if so, make sure to fill out the student discount form! it’s significant)
21:02:43 <oikiki> vkmc gave us interns some info about grants and things too
21:02:49 <rockyg> You may check out some of the OpenStack based public clouds.  A number of them are participating in the "OpenStack Passport" program.
21:02:55 <diablo_rojo_> There is also TSP you can apply for. DISCLAIMER, a ton of people apply so its hard to get selected, but you have nothing to lose :)
21:03:09 <rockyg> Free access to try out the cloud on their site.
21:03:12 <diablo_rojo_> oikiki, okay cool :)
21:03:20 <diablo_rojo_> Good call rockyg :)
21:03:23 <oikiki> thanks rockyg!
21:03:39 <diablo_rojo_> Oh shoot, we are technically over time for the meeting.
21:03:41 <annabelleB> TSP being “Travel Support Program”
21:03:51 <diablo_rojo_> Feel free to hang around and chat more though
21:03:52 <spotz> seeya rockyg
21:03:55 <diablo_rojo_> #endmeeting