17:05:31 <johnthetubaguy> #startmeeting XenAPI
17:05:31 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Apr  3 17:05:31 2013 UTC.  The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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17:05:39 <BobBall> Morning John
17:05:42 <johnthetubaguy> who is around for today's meeting?
17:05:49 <johnthetubaguy> good evening bob
17:05:57 * BobBall waves excitedly
17:05:59 <matelakat> Hi
17:06:51 <johnthetubaguy> OK, lets get cracking
17:07:13 <johnthetubaguy> #topic actions
17:07:37 <johnthetubaguy> OK, not reviewed the release notes properly
17:07:54 <johnthetubaguy> matelakat: I saw you /boot/guest stuff, thank you!
17:08:05 <johnthetubaguy> how is the ISO stuff?
17:08:07 <matelakat> I committed a patch to devstack, so hopefully will document it during the week.
17:08:14 <matelakat> ISO -no porgress
17:08:45 <BobBall> What's the deadline for the release notes?
17:08:46 <matelakat> tbh, I would like to play with it, while I am documenting it.
17:08:51 <BobBall> Isn't that urgent now?
17:09:36 <johnthetubaguy> yep
17:09:38 <matelakat> ISO is likely to be next week.
17:09:44 <johnthetubaguy> its like due yesterday
17:09:54 <matelakat> I am re -raising the iso action.
17:10:06 <johnthetubaguy> #action matelakat to look at documenting ISO boot
17:10:15 <johnthetubaguy> my patch got in, which is nice
17:10:19 <matelakat> #action johnthetubaguy to review blueprints for release notes
17:10:24 <BobBall> Ok - where are the changes that we need to review for the release notes, or who has the action to change them?  I didn't think I had an action, so I'm hoping it's one of you two :D
17:10:26 <johnthetubaguy> thank you :-)
17:10:36 <johnthetubaguy> it was me
17:10:41 <BobBall> Well - we had some proposed release notes to add - should we just add them in case you don't have time John?
17:10:43 <johnthetubaguy> looking at the blueprints
17:10:47 <matelakat> #action matelakat to document /boot/guest
17:10:50 <johnthetubaguy> yes, go for adding what you have
17:11:12 <matelakat> #action matelakat to add https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/XenServer/BootFromISO to the install docs
17:11:17 <johnthetubaguy> OK, shall we move onto docs?
17:11:27 <matelakat> Sure.
17:11:35 <johnthetubaguy> matelakat: I would test those first, see if it works OK for you!
17:11:50 <johnthetubaguy> we should have tempests tests for this at some point
17:12:13 <matelakat> y.
17:12:26 <johnthetubaguy> #topic Docs
17:12:32 <johnthetubaguy> any docs news / questions?
17:12:37 <matelakat> I only document stuff, that I have seen working - don't take it personally
17:13:11 <matelakat> Small doc improvements last week: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25643/
17:13:17 <BobBall> ok - so this is where we were meant to talk about release notes I guess! Sorry!
17:13:17 <johnthetubaguy> cool
17:13:30 <johnthetubaguy> well, it was actions from last meeting too
17:14:05 <matelakat> Should we do it now?
17:14:09 <BobBall> yes
17:14:15 <BobBall> I'm trying to find links :D
17:14:18 <johnthetubaguy> add what you fancy
17:14:29 <johnthetubaguy> I was going to review all the blueprints for xenapi impact
17:14:49 <matelakat> Let's try to put on the obvious ones now.
17:14:53 <BobBall> hmmmm
17:14:57 <johnthetubaguy> +1
17:15:04 <BobBall> how do you see the previous agenda?  That's not archived with the meeting minutes!
17:15:06 <BobBall> rubbish!
17:15:29 <johnthetubaguy> ah, yes, we should add the links really
17:15:37 <johnthetubaguy> you can see the history in the wiki I thought
17:16:01 <BobBall> I'm trying to find it and I'm clearly incompetent...
17:16:13 <BobBall> https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Meetings/XenAPI&oldid=19604 is this week's
17:16:29 <BobBall> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Meetings/XenAPI&oldid=19604 Agenda for this week
17:16:33 <BobBall> Is that the right syntax? :)
17:16:43 <matelakat> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Grizzly
17:16:55 <BobBall> https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Meetings/XenAPI&direction=prev&oldid=19604 is last week's agenda which includes suggestions for release notes changes
17:17:07 <matelakat> Nova
17:17:16 <matelakat> What pops up in your mind?
17:17:54 <BobBall> The only nova one from https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Meetings/XenAPI&direction=prev&oldid=19604 was config drive 2... but if it's not tested/demoed, not sure we can add it
17:18:03 <BobBall> Cinder has the XenAPINFS driver stuff
17:18:05 <BobBall> so we could add that
17:18:12 <matelakat> Okay, I am adding that.
17:18:14 <matelakat> now
17:18:57 <BobBall> Great - then if John has a chance to go through blueprints there may be other additions
17:19:20 <johnthetubaguy> BobBall: I think config drive support is OK to add, maybe mark as experimental
17:19:31 <matelakat> Okay, that was a one-word addition.
17:19:33 <matelakat> done.
17:19:38 <johnthetubaguy> cool
17:19:59 <matelakat> not really much, it's frustrating.
17:20:21 <matelakat> Bob, what do you think, should we put some effort to try out ConfigDrive?
17:20:28 <johnthetubaguy> its not zero
17:20:41 <johnthetubaguy> I was just about to say, Rick Harris and I will be looking at Config Drive
17:20:52 <matelakat> Oh, that's cool.
17:21:02 <johnthetubaguy> #topic blueprints
17:21:07 <BobBall> great.
17:21:14 <johnthetubaguy> so, we should cover more of this at the summit
17:21:18 <johnthetubaguy> and get that page update
17:21:34 <johnthetubaguy> but we are looking into ways to deprecate the current agent, and move towards cloud-init
17:21:34 <matelakat> Fair enough.
17:21:46 <johnthetubaguy> especially now the windows version is getting there
17:22:02 <matelakat> y.
17:22:04 <johnthetubaguy> bit issue is online password reset, not 100% sure about that one yet
17:22:29 <johnthetubaguy> lol, I keep reading y as why rather than yes
17:23:00 <matelakat> Don't do that.
17:23:01 <johnthetubaguy> OK, anything more for blueprints while we are on this?
17:23:11 <matelakat> Not really.
17:23:20 <johnthetubaguy> OK
17:23:27 <johnthetubaguy> #topic bugs and qa
17:23:33 <johnthetubaguy> so hows tempest stuff going?
17:23:40 <BobBall> which tempest stuff?
17:23:55 <johnthetubaguy> matelakat getting tempest running against XenServer
17:24:13 <johnthetubaguy> I keep seeing the odd patch, how is it all looking?
17:24:34 <matelakat> You mean the XML client stuff.
17:24:36 <BobBall> ah
17:24:47 <matelakat> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25609/
17:25:35 <matelakat> So, last time I ran the full tempest, I had issues around the console support.
17:25:46 <matelakat> But, another stuff popped up last week.
17:25:53 <matelakat> Which might be qa related.
17:26:20 <matelakat> Boot from volume - As we got rid of the kernel lockups, I tried to run the bfv exercise.
17:26:26 <johnthetubaguy> ah, OK
17:27:01 <matelakat> And that raised two (known) issues: XenServer type images not supported with Cinder (create volume from image)
17:27:25 <matelakat> So I got rid of that by setting up a raw image.
17:27:45 <matelakat> And came the next issue: Nova did not detect that it's a PV
17:28:00 <johnthetubaguy> hmm
17:28:07 <matelakat> So these are two things which we could discuss in detail during the summit.
17:28:16 <johnthetubaguy> that should be part of the glance settings really
17:28:17 <matelakat> I would like to eliminate both.
17:28:19 <johnthetubaguy> PV mode
17:28:35 <johnthetubaguy> the detection code is never going to be super awesome
17:28:37 <matelakat> Y, I will try to set the xen tag on the image, and see if that works.
17:28:46 <BobBall> we can probably detect if the kernel is PV using readnotes
17:29:21 <matelakat> But I had to stop investigation at that point.
17:29:23 <johnthetubaguy> but its filesystem dependent, and other things, maybe take a peak at how we detect that today
17:29:53 <matelakat> Anyhow, bfv is sitting in the backlog at the moment.
17:30:03 <BobBall> pygrub has to be able to identify the kernel (i.e. dom0 attach to the filesystem) to boot as PV - so once we have the kernel we only need to check if it's a pvops kernel which is where readnotes comes in
17:31:28 <johnthetubaguy> OK
17:31:53 <johnthetubaguy> console issues you mentioned?
17:32:07 <johnthetubaguy> the serial console has not been implemented yet, maybe that is related to your issue?
17:32:18 <matelakat> I guess so.
17:32:36 <matelakat> Afaik, there is a patch somewhere in review.os
17:32:44 <matelakat> I am adding this task to the backlog.
17:32:52 <johnthetubaguy> indeed, its on the summit discussion
17:33:24 <matelakat> it wasn't the serial one, I think.
17:33:27 <matelakat> I am not sure.
17:33:32 <johnthetubaguy> hmm, ok
17:33:34 <matelakat> Let's shelve this.
17:33:36 <johnthetubaguy> yes
17:33:50 <johnthetubaguy> #topic OpenDiscussion
17:33:59 <johnthetubaguy> So any other items for today
17:34:03 <johnthetubaguy> I guess the meeting time is one
17:34:16 <matelakat> Could we do it a bit later?
17:34:46 <BobBall> haha
17:34:52 <BobBall> well I looked last week
17:35:00 <johnthetubaguy> Tuesday 1600 UTC?
17:35:00 <BobBall> we can move to a diff day and have it an hour or two earlier
17:35:06 <BobBall> sounds good to me.
17:35:11 <matelakat> +1
17:35:17 <BobBall> Should still be fine for US ppl
17:35:23 <johnthetubaguy> yes
17:35:31 <matelakat> And, we should send out email to the mailing list
17:35:37 <johnthetubaguy> #action email about time change
17:35:40 <johnthetubaguy> absolutally
17:35:46 <johnthetubaguy> I will see if people object
17:35:56 <BobBall> Perfect
17:35:56 <johnthetubaguy> and its a good excuse to advertise the meeting again
17:36:02 <johnthetubaguy> and the summit session
17:36:02 <BobBall> sounds like the bot is down
17:36:03 <matelakat> Would be nice to see more guys here.
17:36:06 <johnthetubaguy> OK
17:36:10 <johnthetubaguy> any more for any more?
17:36:15 <BobBall> oh
17:36:16 <BobBall> maybe not
17:36:25 <matelakat> sys.exit(0)
17:36:28 <johnthetubaguy> lol
17:36:36 <BobBall> surely you mean sys.exit(1)
17:36:41 <johnthetubaguy> #endmeeting