15:02:14 #startmeeting XenAPI 15:02:15 Meeting started Wed May 22 15:02:14 2013 UTC. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:02:16 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:02:18 yeah! pffft! Wait your turn! :D 15:02:19 The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' 15:02:28 hello people 15:02:32 who is here for XenAPI? 15:02:59 o/~ 15:03:02 Mate should be here too 15:03:08 but he's not yet 15:03:20 and I'm working from home - hence can't shout at him over the wall 15:03:22 hi 15:03:34 ah, hello 15:03:38 any more for any more? 15:03:42 He was shouting so loud, so I was able to hear it. 15:04:18 :) 15:04:20 * johnthetubaguy starts to write paper about proof of wormholes in cambridge 15:04:35 I've got dozens of them in my garden... don't think we need a paper... 15:04:40 #topic Actions from last week 15:05:00 matelakat did you document the bug finder? 15:06:13 don't think there are any other actions 15:06:53 I haven't documented the bugfinder. 15:06:57 ok 15:06:58 btw, while we wait for matelakat (ding) to answer... 15:06:59 oh 15:07:03 there you go, he answered :D 15:07:06 I'll wait my turn then 15:07:17 #action matelakat to document bug finder in XenAPI team wiki 15:07:23 ok BobBall? 15:07:46 Sorry guys, I am chatting with dan on smoke, which is quite important. 15:08:07 well it's not an action 15:08:11 so I can wait my turn in the agenda 15:08:22 shall we talk about QA then? 15:08:28 (was that next in line?) 15:08:36 we can, nothing else on the list 15:08:44 anyone got any blueprint updates? 15:08:51 no 15:09:01 #action Bugs and QA 15:09:12 so its bug day again, the bi weekly nova bug day anyways 15:09:23 did some triage of the xenserver bugs again 15:09:30 So in terms of QA, as Mate says, we're currently working with Dan to figure out what needs to change in the XenServer scripts to get smokestack working again 15:09:35 working on the agent setting thing 15:09:38 cool 15:09:44 quick update? 15:10:05 Mate could say more if you were interested, but I think the important thing is that Mate has promised not to sleep until it's back and working 15:10:22 #info openstack xenapi driver uses PV tools to set the host name when using the agent, but XS 6.1 seems to have pulled this feature 15:10:30 Updates next week. 15:10:36 I am interested what the plan is, and if I can help really 15:10:39 I just started to work on this. 15:10:46 OK 15:10:54 Minor clarficiation on that John... 15:10:55 I will let you know, if I need help. 15:11:07 XS 6.1 _with the new tools_ does not support this 15:11:15 #info matelakat working to get smokestack back up and running 15:11:42 the feature wasn't an official feature (bad excuse I know) but more importantly it didn't work in windows 2012 in some scenarios 15:11:43 I hurd you can't attach block volumes to a running VM if you use the old tools on XS 6.1 though 15:11:59 as such, it didn't make sense to port that feature over to the new-style drivers (which were a complete re-write anyway) 15:12:22 if we need a way to set the hostname then we should look at a PR to get it into the guest tools rather than the PV drivers 15:12:43 that is my plan now 15:12:53 that would require a reboot (which we don't in the old-way of doing it) but would be using the MS supported methods and wouldn't break in the ways that we've seen it break 15:13:17 I meant if we want XS to do it then the guest tools is the place it should be. An OS solution that doesn't use the XS guest tools is of course fine too 15:13:20 we need reboots for other things anyway, so would be good to add that in there 15:13:38 cloudbase-init does set the hostname for you too 15:13:46 but that works regardless I think 15:13:59 ok 15:15:32 OK, so... 15:15:43 #topic Open Discussion 15:15:47 anything more to raise? 15:15:57 yes 15:15:59 damnit 15:16:04 I've forgotten what it was now though 15:16:10 oops 15:16:24 oh yes 15:16:42 I thought it'd be worthwhile having a chat with Mate about the changes he's made for the Quantum integration 15:16:52 Maru was surprised that a revised approach was needed 15:17:04 So 15:17:13 I think the DHCP change is not needed. 15:17:36 Having one agent controlling both domU and dom0 bridges does not sound good. 15:18:11 So I have a devstack change, that will eliminate this issue, and start two separate agents, one for domU, one for dom0 15:18:26 And create a "physnet" physical bridge. 15:18:27 ah, OK 15:18:34 so routing the traffic in the DomU? 15:18:39 So that no code change is needed. 15:18:54 both agents in the domu you mean? 15:18:54 tunnelling with vlans. 15:19:06 agents tun in domu, that's correct. 15:19:28 yup, that makes sense I think 15:19:37 I have a change for that. 15:19:39 Wait a sec. 15:19:53 in the general case, you probably don't want that running on a VM anyway, or at least not on a nova-compute node 15:20:22 it might mean what they do with mult-host support for DHCP will not work 15:20:44 ok 15:20:53 so john - which wouldn't work multi-host? 15:20:57 Maru's way or Mate's way? 15:21:07 #info while openstack network support for XenAPI L2 is going well, but L3 patch may not be needed 15:21:15 erm, Mate's way 15:21:25 but they haven't done multi-host yet 15:21:26 Well a revised L2 patch is needed to remove the need for the L3 patch 15:21:39 oh, interesting 15:21:53 I guess that makes sense 15:21:54 I think that's right matelakat ? 15:22:20 I think only my setup will work with multi host. 15:22:38 but that they implemented multi host yet? 15:22:41 have^ 15:22:48 That's not right, I am sorry, I think both should work - mine works for sure. 15:23:03 do they have mult-host for DHCP now? 15:23:13 In multi-host, I meant mapping your network to physical nets. 15:23:30 ah, I mean running multiple DHCP 15:23:48 like in nova's multi-host 15:24:16 I think, it is really hard to discuss these things via IRC. 15:24:26 I have a feeling they are dropping that stuff anyways 15:24:36 possibly yes 15:24:45 I know, my wife and my mother-in law are capable of discussing colors over the phone, but I am not that clever. 15:24:54 lol 15:25:04 colours need the woman gene... 15:25:17 chromosone! 15:25:19 For me, networking needs a whiteboars. 15:25:21 its bluey green with a hint of three week old dry grass 15:25:31 It's been too long since I've been at school :D 15:25:43 * BobBall will not ask what a whiteboar is. 15:25:54 So, let's get back to this networking discussion. 15:26:04 idd 15:26:06 * johnthetubaguy thinks of some form of white pudding made from wild boar 15:26:09 indeed 15:26:17 what was the issue here? 15:26:24 I would like to associate proper meaning to those "multi-host", and "nova-like" words. 15:26:27 so - John - are you happy that Mate's approach is better than the currently proposed approach? 15:26:33 I think it is when you have one DHCP per host stuff is not great 15:26:37 Are you visiting us this week John? 15:26:58 no plans, but I could, tomorrow 15:27:03 Bob? 15:27:19 I'm WFM in the morning 15:27:25 but I'll be in in the arvo hopefully 15:27:30 I am sorry for all these things, but it is pointless for me to discuss networking through IRC. 15:27:30 having a kitchen delivered! 15:27:36 that's fine :) 15:27:40 that sounds important 15:27:48 OK 15:28:06 so maybe we are done for now, and we can answer questions people have next week 15:28:15 Okay, so if you pop in to the office, you can have curry as well. 15:28:28 I will probably be in post-curry 15:28:37 Let me know your decision, John. 15:28:49 Sync-up, and have some diagrams. 15:29:13 Ok, will try drop by in the afternoon, will check with sally later 15:29:23 I'm thinking maybe we need diagrams sketched out online 15:29:28 oh, curry too maybe 15:29:32 We need to convince others on the patch review too 15:29:45 we have diagrams, its just slow and hard to point 15:30:01 ok 15:30:04 we can talk about the devstack refactoring as well I guess 15:30:17 agree and end point for the networking config 15:30:25 informally at least 15:30:57 so we all done now? 15:31:05 think so 15:31:07 aj 15:31:09 stop 15:31:13 Question 15:31:13 #endmeeting