15:01:49 <flaper87> #startmeeting Zaqar 15:01:50 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Aug 24 15:01:49 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:52 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:54 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' 15:02:03 <flaper87> #topic Roll Call 15:02:09 <therve> o/ 15:02:10 <ryansb> \o 15:02:12 <flaper87> I think we have "CHORUS" ;) 15:02:23 <flaper87> o/ 15:02:30 <flaper87> vkmc flwang focus 15:02:35 <vkmc> o/ 15:02:47 <flaper87> #topic Agenda 15:02:49 <flaper87> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zaqar#Agenda 15:02:59 <jasondotstar> o/ 15:03:17 <flaper87> that's our agenda for today. IT's not fixed, keep your topics handy and prepare to add them at runtime 15:03:20 <flaper87> jasondotstar: hey there :D 15:03:34 <jasondotstar> Hey 15:03:41 <flaper87> #topic Review Items from last week 15:03:42 <jasondotstar> need to put this meeting on my cal 15:03:45 <flaper87> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-08-17-21.01.html 15:03:55 <flaper87> jasondotstar: I'll add you to the list of courtesy pings 15:04:01 <flaper87> vkmc sync with folks from horizon 15:04:01 <jasondotstar> gr8 thx 15:04:05 <flaper87> vkmc: ? 15:04:15 <ryansb> jasondotstar: you can get all the meetings from http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ 15:04:21 <ryansb> there's a nice iCal you can import 15:04:27 <jasondotstar> cool. 15:04:36 * ryansb gets back on topic 15:04:46 <flaper87> vkmc: 1 15:04:48 <flaper87> vkmc: 2 15:04:56 <flaper87> vkmc: 3 15:05:09 <flaper87> moving on 15:05:11 <flaper87> flwang1 to sync with folks from swift about a possible joint session for zaqar+swift (swift notification middleware) 15:05:13 <flaper87> flwang: ^ 15:05:20 <flaper87> flwang: dude, you should really use 1 nick 15:05:21 <flaper87> :P 15:05:23 <flaper87> it's confusing 15:05:34 <flaper87> I can't figure out which one is your evil side 15:05:40 <flaper87> flwang: 1 15:05:40 <flwang> flaper87: i have two computes :D 15:05:42 <vkmc> sorry, all the lag 15:05:55 <flaper87> vkmc: no worries, lets wait for flwang to provide feedback 15:06:05 <flaper87> flwang: ZNC is the answer to all your problems 15:06:07 <flwang> i was trying to catch the guy, but not response 15:06:07 <flaper87> anyway 15:06:11 <flaper87> flwang: news on that? 15:06:12 <flaper87> ok 15:06:14 <flwang> i will send a mail to thim 15:06:41 <flaper87> #action flwang to chase down notmyname and the person behind zaqar+swift middleware 15:07:00 <flaper87> vkmc sync with folks from horizon about a possible joint session for zaqar+horizon ? 15:07:23 <flwang> the patch has been not activity more than 1 month, so i think he is busy 15:07:35 <flaper87> flwang: likely, and not high-prio 15:07:49 <flaper87> but lets keep up with it and help moving it forward 15:08:00 <flwang> flaper87: sure 15:08:04 * flaper87 waits for vkmc to get back from lag-land 15:08:07 <vkmc> couldn't do that this week, I couldn't find the etherpad we had with the Horizon use case 15:08:23 <flaper87> vkmc: ok, think you'll have time this week ? 15:08:32 <vkmc> flaper87, yeah, sorry about that 15:08:35 <flaper87> hard to tell but I'll action you 15:08:44 <flaper87> #action vkmc to sync with folks from horizon about a possible joint session for zaqar+horizon ? 15:08:48 <flaper87> #undo 15:08:49 <openstack> Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0xa7d4950> 15:08:52 <flaper87> #action vkmc to sync with folks from horizon about a possible joint session for zaqar+horizon 15:08:59 <flaper87> flaper87 to sync with folks from Sahara about their guest-agent use-case 15:09:07 <ryansb> lol. python default __repr__ 15:09:23 <flaper87> I talked to SergeyLukjanov and he mentioned he was going to bring the topic up during last week's Sahara meeting 15:09:31 <flaper87> I've to check if that happened or not 15:09:41 <flaper87> I also promissed docs on signed url and I need to complete that 15:09:51 <flaper87> #action flaper87 to write docs for pre-signed urls 15:10:07 <therve> flaper87, Before you do that maybe https://review.openstack.org/215638 is worth a look 15:10:26 <flaper87> therve: awesome, thanks :D 15:10:50 <flaper87> #topic Pending important reviews 15:10:51 <therve> Not that I want to derail doc writing :) 15:11:03 <flaper87> therve: not at all, I'll take a look at that first 15:11:13 <flaper87> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215638/ 15:11:19 <ryansb> I'll add that to my review list 15:11:24 <ryansb> flaper87: speaking of reviews, when do I get the magic +2 power? 15:11:45 <flaper87> ryansb: right after the meeting when I was supposed to welcome you during the open discussion 15:11:50 <flaper87> but since you SPOILED it 15:11:55 <flaper87> I guess I could do it now 15:11:56 <flaper87> :P 15:12:08 * ryansb didn't see that as a topic 15:12:09 <jasondotstar> hey the initial puppet review is still pending 15:12:14 <flaper87> jokes apart, lemme finish this and I'll add you to the magic group 15:12:25 <flwang> flaper87: i just have a chat with cschwede the author of the notification middleware author 15:12:26 <flaper87> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213744/ (ws auth) 15:12:33 <flaper87> that patch from last week is still pending 15:12:36 <flwang> who will submit a new patchset this week 15:12:38 <flaper87> anyone care looking at it? 15:12:41 <flwang> just FYI 15:12:47 <flaper87> flwang: AWESOME 15:12:51 <jasondotstar> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204225/ 15:12:56 <ryansb> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204225/ (puppet review) 15:13:03 <jasondotstar> I've looked at it 15:13:21 * ryansb adds ws auth to queue 15:13:27 <flaper87> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202374/ (email notification) 15:13:31 <flaper87> flwang: you need to update that one 15:13:34 <jasondotstar> it's got a couple unit test fails, but I'm thinking it might be b/c the class defs are empty 15:13:55 <jasondotstar> basically looks to import the puppet template code 15:14:13 <flaper87> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212828/ (move get|inc_counter methods) 15:14:16 <flaper87> I'll update that one 15:14:20 <flwang> jasondotstar: you can you give it a hand, it would be awesome 15:14:22 <therve> jasondotstar, That's a lot of random crap 15:14:48 <jasondotstar> flwang: a hand with? 15:14:55 <flaper87> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195010/ (ws claims) 15:14:57 <jasondotstar> therve: the puppet template stuff is crap, you mean? 15:14:59 <flwang> we are waiting it for adopting zaqar in our prod 15:15:12 <flwang> jasondotstar: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204225/ 15:15:15 <therve> jasondotstar, I guess I should verbose and possibly duplicated? 15:15:16 <flaper87> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199824/ (make unreliable False by default) 15:15:25 * therve shut up he doesn't know anything about puppet 15:15:29 <flaper87> we basically didn't land any of the patches from last week 15:15:43 <flwang> flaper87: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199824/ failed to build the doc 15:15:49 <flaper87> we gotta keep up with reviews, especially now that we're just a couple of weeks away from the freeze 15:15:57 <flaper87> flwang: will look at it 15:16:14 <flwang> since the reliable = false will always throw a runtime error 15:16:27 <flwang> though it works fine on my local, i haven't figured it out 15:16:28 <flaper87> jasondotstar: I'll look at the puppet one and see if I spot something 15:16:38 <jasondotstar> ack. 15:16:50 <flaper87> flwang: pls, make sure to upate both your patches so we can move them forward 15:16:58 <flwang> flaper87: if you can push the puppet one, it would be awesome 15:17:04 <flwang> you know, we really really need it 15:17:08 <flaper87> flwang: yup 15:17:20 <flaper87> ok, moving on (unless someone has other patches) 15:17:29 <flaper87> I think the ones linked are enough for a week :D 15:17:37 <flaper87> but pls, don't stop yourself from doing more 15:17:38 <flwang> flaper87: i will, my son is sick, so i can't work at daytime, that's why you can see my now 15:18:11 <flaper87> flwang: no worries, I'm happy to help if you need support on a patch 15:18:17 <flaper87> I can help with quick amends/fixes 15:18:25 <flaper87> (any of us can, actually) 15:18:42 <flwang> thank you, i will raise my hand :) 15:18:53 <flaper87> #topic OpenStack Summit Revisited (Tokyo) 15:19:08 <flaper87> Last week I mentioned that we should start thinking about Tokyo 15:19:27 <flaper87> I'd like to stress this topic a bit more and add to what I said last week that we won't have many fishbowl session 15:19:30 <flaper87> sessions* 15:19:39 <flaper87> well, no one will have as many as in previous summits 15:19:50 <flwang> due to big tent? 15:19:58 <flaper87> So, we gotta be prepared to have 2 fishbowl (or just one) and several workrooms 15:20:13 <flaper87> flwang: no, just sapce and time. So yeah, big tent 15:20:21 <flaper87> jokes apart, it's more related to space and time 15:20:36 <flaper87> I don't have the details but the hope is Austin won't have this problem 15:20:41 <flaper87> anyway, back on topic 15:21:02 <flaper87> pls, think of sessions in the form of workrooms where we can fit fewer brains but get more things done 15:21:20 <flaper87> no offense to the masses 15:21:22 <flaper87> :P 15:21:38 <flaper87> ok, that's all I have 15:21:48 <flaper87> #topic Pre-Open Discussion 15:21:58 <flaper87> does anyone have any other topic to discuss? 15:22:07 <flaper87> Otherwise, we can move to Open Discussion 15:22:09 <therve> Won't be in Tokyo, so please do'nt hesitate to have discussions outside of the summit :) 15:22:40 <flaper87> therve: very good point, I'll make sure all discussions are properly logged and that a good summary is sent out 15:22:47 <flaper87> therve: sad to not have you there :( 15:23:22 <ryansb> in general, remote-friendly summit activity is a great thing 15:23:27 <flwang> flaper87: re the submit session, i think we can propose a integration status update and a feature updates, like websocket and notification 15:23:32 <ryansb> so keep doing public etherpads and such 15:23:51 <flaper87> flwang: I'd love one of those sessions to be cross-project 15:23:54 <flaper87> but we'll see 15:23:58 <flaper87> I have 2 topics 15:24:00 <vkmc> IMO we can make it work for the work sessions 15:24:06 <flaper87> well, 1, I just forgot about one of the topic 15:24:16 <flaper87> #topic PTL elections 15:24:20 <vkmc> not so sure about the fishbowls... but since we don't have so many, its ok 15:24:22 <dclain_> Outlook for branching Liberty distribution, has this been discussed yet? 15:24:55 <flaper87> The PTL elections are 1 month away from now, please, don't hesitate to send your candidacy. Zaqar has lacked of multiple-candidates elections which are good and healthy 15:25:19 <flaper87> I understand our community is not big but pls, don't hesitate to put your name out there 15:25:40 <flaper87> #topic Cross-Project Liaison 15:25:58 <flaper87> It's probably a bit late to bring this since this effort started a while back 15:26:00 <flaper87> HOWEVER 15:26:23 <flaper87> we've not been very involved in cross-project activities in the past, which is probably why our impact hasn't been as good 15:26:47 <flaper87> Now that projects are starting to consume Zaqar, it's extremely important for us to be around and participate in CPL activities 15:27:03 <ryansb> are there specific CPL tasks that you thin are most needed? 15:27:06 <flaper87> Therefore, I'd like to ask if some of you would like to be the CP Liaison for Zaqar 15:27:20 <flaper87> ryansb: right now, I think presence is important 15:27:22 <jasondotstar> ryansb: about to ask the same thing 15:27:29 <flaper87> devstack maintnance is important 15:27:34 <flaper87> and make sure we don't break others 15:27:40 <flaper87> Bring feedback from requirements changes 15:27:50 <flaper87> from API-wg changes etc 15:27:56 <jasondotstar> should we 'sell' consuming zaqar to other projects ? 15:28:21 <flaper87> jasondotstar: we've been doing that. More than selling, we're trying to solve existing projects 15:28:25 <therve> Not sure it should be just one person. But I'm totally cool with maintaining the in-tree devstack plugin 15:28:34 <flaper87> we addressed use cases for Heat 15:28:41 * ryansb is already api-wg'ing 15:28:41 <flaper87> now we are moving forward with other projects 15:28:43 <therve> (Should we delete the one in devstack itself btw?) 15:28:47 <flaper87> but this is not about selling Zaqar 15:28:55 <jasondotstar> flaper87: ack. 15:28:55 <flaper87> but being part of the CP efforts and meeting 15:28:56 <ryansb> therve: I'd say yeah, since the plugin is "the way" 15:29:07 <flaper87> the meeting happens in a time that is very inconvenient for me 15:29:14 <flaper87> and it's hard for me to attend 15:29:18 <jasondotstar> whic is? 15:29:21 <flaper87> Tue 21 UTC 15:29:31 <therve> Uh yeah that sucks 15:29:37 <flaper87> therve: right? :( 15:29:39 <flwang> flaper87: seems it's works for me? 15:29:49 <flaper87> flwang: if you can attend, pls do. 15:29:52 <flwang> I think that's my 9:00am 15:30:05 <flaper87> I think the only thing we need from our CPL is to bring/give feedback 15:30:11 <flaper87> We'll totally split tasks 15:30:23 <flaper87> but please, we need you to attend the meetings 15:30:31 <flwang> ok, just put my name on 15:30:37 <flaper87> awesome 15:30:56 <flaper87> flwang: thanks :) 15:31:01 <flaper87> that's it from me 15:31:17 <flaper87> anything else? can we move on? 15:31:40 <ryansb> FYI I'm already the heat CPL for the APIWG 15:31:57 <flaper87> ryansb: and you're Zaqar's as well, you just don't know that 15:31:59 <flaper87> :P 15:32:04 <ryansb> since I already go to the meetings, I can also go for zaqar 15:32:08 <ryansb> ah, so I am 15:32:11 <ryansb> ;) 15:32:16 <flaper87> :D 15:32:50 <flaper87> ok 15:32:54 <flaper87> #topic Open Discussion 15:33:48 <flaper87> Everyone, pls, welcome ryansb to the Zaqar's core team 15:33:50 <flaper87> https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/104,members 15:34:01 <flaper87> He's now gotten all the rights and priviledges 15:34:07 <flaper87> and he's ready to break Zaqar 15:34:09 <flaper87> :D 15:34:17 <ryansb> you mean improve, right? 15:34:28 * jasondotstar salutes 15:34:28 <flaper87> Jokes apart, ryansb thanks for joining and for taking this duty on 15:34:55 <flaper87> ok, that's it for realz 15:34:56 <flwang> ryansb: http://i1.wp.com/openstackreactions.enovance.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/getting-ptl.gif?resize=480%2C360 15:35:07 <flaper87> unless there are other open discussions, I'll end the meeting 15:35:23 <ryansb> lol, thanks everyone 15:35:33 <ryansb> flaper87: sgtm 15:35:39 * flaper87 is glad flwang likes OSReactions 15:35:40 <flwang> flaper87: thanks 15:35:42 <therve> Congrats ryansb :) 15:35:52 <flaper87> ok, meeting ending in: 15:35:53 <vkmc> congrats ryansb! 15:35:54 <flaper87> 3 15:35:56 <flaper87> 2 15:35:58 <flaper87> 1 15:36:01 <flaper87> #endmeeting