20:59:37 #startmeeting zaqar 20:59:38 Meeting started Mon Dec 21 20:59:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flwang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:59:39 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:59:41 The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' 20:59:56 i'm wondering if we have enough people for the meeting :) 20:59:58 Hello 21:00:10 Eva-i: i guess just you and me :) 21:00:26 flwang: let's wait a bit 21:00:32 Eva-i: yep, sure 21:02:22 o/ 21:02:26 hey hey 21:03:11 vkmc: hey 21:03:19 glad to see you can join :) 21:05:19 should we start now? 21:05:27 flwang: okay 21:05:28 #topic roll call 21:05:32 o/ 21:05:55 o/ 21:06:32 o/ 21:06:48 cool 21:07:20 #topic zaqar client 21:07:31 it's still in progress 21:07:57 unfortunately, we're still missing the full support for claim in v1 21:08:05 and missing the support for subscription for v2 21:08:29 vkmc: it would be nice if you can help review those patches 21:08:40 we really really need to get them done in M-2 21:08:50 yeah, sorry for my constant delays 21:10:09 vkmc: that's not your fault, we're a tiny team, so we just depend on your guys too much :D 21:10:24 flwang: I can review them too after submitting config-ref patch 21:10:32 flwang: it will be soon 21:10:32 everybody may up and down for the review performance, it's totally ok 21:10:43 Eva-i: it would be awesome 21:11:00 flwang, I know yeah, still it feels bad to see you working so much and I putting fires down somewhere else 21:11:52 vkmc: no worries, that's my duty :) 21:12:09 #topic zaqar UI 21:12:37 unfortunately, we didn't get any +1 from horizon team, it's understandable given the xmas holiday is coming 21:13:11 i'm still working on adding the zaqar api into the plugin and get it work 21:13:46 however, i have to admit the angular JS is not really straightforward or I"m just not a good frontend developer :( 21:14:17 i'm stuck now and i'm looking for some help from horizon team and my internal team 21:14:18 oh it's not straightforward :/ 21:14:49 vkmc: that's my justification :D 21:15:02 excuse i mean ;) 21:15:21 flwang: recently I tried to run Magnum UI recently to inspect how angular.js things are working there, so I can implement them in Zaqar UI. But it wasn't working. 21:15:23 anyway, if you guys have time, just play it and fix it 21:15:41 flwang: I talked to a guy in Magnum team, he said he will fix the bug. 21:15:47 Eva-i: yep, that's not surprise 21:16:07 Eva-i: did you open a bug for the problem you saw? 21:16:09 link? 21:17:36 No, the guy thanked me about the provided logs and said he will open bug report it. Also it's actually not a bug in Magnum UI, but in Horizon. I'm sorry, I forgot the person's name. 21:18:09 Eva-i: ok, it's fine. 21:18:27 Eva-i: so at least the basic UI framework works for you, right? 21:18:35 if so, would you mind +1 for that patch? 21:19:17 flwang: okay, will +1, though I haven't inspected the code... 21:19:38 *work fine 21:20:43 Eva-i: it's ok, we just need to know if it's ok, and given it's a start point, so there must be some bugs, but we can fix them later ;) 21:20:51 flwang: alright 21:21:01 ok, anything we need to talk about the UI? 21:21:11 flwang: I have no questions now 21:21:20 #topic docs 21:21:51 Eva-i: would you mind giving a summary about the docs? I think you're the lead of this work :) 21:22:02 flwang: okay 21:25:41 1. Contributor docs are awaiting patch approval, then some other patches will be created for it. 21:25:41 2. Fei Long took API-ref and "User Guide" work, and it seems like everything will be fine 21:25:41 3. I took config-ref and writing it. It will be done very soon, maybe in the end of today. There are some questions I wanted to ask before I submit the patch. 21:25:41 4. Main wiki page is refactored more, and I want Fei Long to check "Key features" section. 21:26:39 sounds good 21:26:57 i will review the #1 patch, though it's a little big for me :) 21:27:06 I'll ask questions about config-ref in Zaqar chat. 21:27:27 as for #2, i'm not really sure if i can get it done in M-2, maybe slip to M-3 based on my currrent bandwidth 21:27:27 flwang: I'm thinkin to splitting this patch to style changes and content changes 21:27:41 flwang: sure 21:28:00 i will review #4 if i can get a link ;) 21:28:31 flwang: here #4 link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zaqar 21:29:50 Eva-i: it would nice lovely if you can add the subscription part for the key features 21:29:52 flwang: I'm just wondering if I made a mistake for splitting HTTP API and Websocket API. 21:30:07 flwang: oki, I'll surely add it. 21:30:40 Eva-i: no, it's ok to describe them separately. but as for this line 'This feature is currently in development. ' 21:30:42 flwang: also I can refactor some of sub-pages in Wiki, but will consult first. 21:30:46 it's not really accurate 21:30:51 Eva-i, why you think so about splitting the API? 21:30:54 i think we should remove it 21:31:24 vkmc: i think she means she describe the two transport layers separately 21:31:30 flwang: alright, I'll remove 'in development' line. 21:31:38 not splitting in zaqar source code 21:31:40 Eva-i: right? 21:31:46 flwang: yes 21:32:11 flwang: I just noticed Zaqar team prefer to talk only about one API and call it "Zaqar API". 21:32:42 flwang: what I did in wiki - I splitted this term to websocket one and http one. 21:32:48 oh yes 21:32:50 but it's ok 21:32:51 Eva-i: not really, that's because most of the other openstack projects only has the rest api 21:33:11 so generally, when we talking about zaqar api, we mean the rest api 21:33:11 I mean, it's confusing to talk about one API being the way of interacting with both of them so different 21:33:22 being that* 21:33:28 but that doesn't mean we don't care about the websocket, in reverse, it's very important 21:34:56 vkmc: did you mean you prefer to describe the transport layer in high level instead of talking them separately? 21:34:59 flwang: I think in the future we should split "Zaqar API" term to "Zaqar Websocket API" and "Zaqar HTTP REST API" in our documentation. And also write separate websocket API reference. 21:35:21 flwang, oh no, I rather to have them splitted 21:35:31 I rather have them* 21:36:07 vkmc: ok, cool 21:37:02 anything we need to discuss for this topic? 21:37:14 anything more i mean 21:37:23 flwang: no, I think 21:38:57 #topic new features 21:40:04 i have submitted a spec for more reserved queue attributes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257622/ 21:40:13 vkmc: flaper87: pls review it 21:40:34 flwang, k, thanks 21:40:36 flwang: I saw this blueprint, but don't have enough knowledge to discuss it. 21:40:54 i would like to add the delay queue support in Mitaka, but I'm afraid i don't have much bandwidth 21:41:41 vkmc: as for the sql migration, if you are not really interested in it, maybe you can take a look the delay queue 21:42:08 flwang, oh, I'm interested in the mysql migration one 21:42:21 flwang, what is the delay queue one about? 21:42:24 personally, given the sqlachemy is not zaqar's recommned production db, so it's not really urgent for the migration work, how do you think? 21:43:01 vkmc: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSSimpleQueueService/latest/SQSDeveloperGuide/sqs-delay-queues.html 21:43:12 nice 21:43:29 flwang, I could check on the delay queues thing if you consider is more urgent 21:44:25 vkmc: personally, i think the delay queue is a good feature and has a higher priority than the sql migration 21:44:34 but depends on your interest 21:44:57 it actually seems more interesting 21:45:04 but well, we have to implement them both anyways 21:47:23 vkmc: yep, we would like to have them both 21:47:37 but we don't have much bandwidth, IMO 21:47:43 we have so much to do in Zaqar, we can only control priorities now. 21:48:04 vkmc: so if you have started the sql migration work 21:48:05 exactly yes 21:48:07 just go for it 21:48:11 ok 21:48:49 i will try to submit at least the spec of delay queue in Mitaka and so that we can get it done in the early of N 21:52:28 ok, any other feature we need to talk at here? 21:52:58 #topic open discussion 21:53:27 vkmc: i will take vacation from 25 Dec to 4 Jan, back to work on 5 Jan 21:53:42 but i will work in the vacation for email things and code review 21:53:42 flwang, that's great! 21:53:52 vkmc: what's your plan? 21:53:54 I saw that meetings will be canceled for those two weeks 21:54:05 which is good for me since we also have several holidays on those weeks 21:54:07 vkmc: yep, that's one thing i need to confirm with you guys 21:54:12 are you happy with that? 21:54:17 cancel the next 2 meetings 21:54:29 vkmc: cool 21:54:31 yeah, I think it's the wise thing to do 21:54:50 I'll add that to the wiki 21:54:55 meetings wiki 21:54:55 flwang: I'm okay with canceled meetings 21:55:30 vkmc: cool. thanks 21:55:36 vkmc: can I take a "holiday" from Dec 30 to Jan 3? 21:55:56 Eva-i, of course 21:56:07 vkmc: thanks 21:59:55 ok, anything else? 22:00:12 otherwise, let close the meeting and see you guys next year :D 22:00:16 at here 22:00:23 #endmeeting