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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: the gate is still fairly backed up, though nodepool is back on track and chipping away at remaining changes. some py3k/pypy node starvation is slowing recovery | 00:02 | |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: if you're around.. | 00:31 |
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| SpamapS | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7369880/ | 00:31 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: any ideas what would cause a 403? | 00:32 |
| stevebaker | boo ya | 00:32 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: I don't see anything in heat-api.log | 00:32 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: heatclient 0.2.9 .. should be good right? | 00:34 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: it is probably not reaching heat-api because the 403 happened getting the keystone token | 00:34 |
| SpamapS | oh dohhhh | 00:34 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: I know what this is | 00:34 |
| SpamapS | no domain users | 00:34 |
| SpamapS | :( | 00:34 |
| SpamapS | fallback behavior probably | 00:34 |
| stevebaker | I'd consider that a regression if you can be bothered tracking that down | 00:35 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: I've just done the silly thing and restarted keystone and turned up logging on it. We'll see. | 00:36 |
| SpamapS | oh boy.. our keystone is wildly out of date | 00:36 |
| SpamapS | Date: Sat Feb 15 02:17:10 2014 +0000 | 00:36 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: it could be heatclient isn't providing the right combo of project id/name, user id/name when not using heat domain users | 00:37 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: we're all using this a lot w/o domain users.. so I'm going to suspect keystone being old first. Updating it now. | 00:38 |
| stevebaker | kk | 00:39 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: latest keystone did not fix it | 01:08 |
| cody-somerville | SpamapS: told you it's broken :P | 01:11 |
| SpamapS | cody-somerville: you did? | 01:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Don't dynamically create provider types in the global env https://review.openstack.org/89695 | 01:21 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: n/m .. policy.json | 01:28 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Move below two templates to sub directory https://review.openstack.org/85232 | 01:32 |
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| cmyster | morning | 03:28 |
| cmyster | stevebaker: Hi, are you here ? | 03:28 |
| stevebaker | cmyster: hi | 03:28 |
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| cmyster | hi, I was wondering about something in software configuration deployment, why is the server_id un-update-able ? | 03:29 |
| stevebaker | cmyster: doing UpdateReplace seems correct to me. you may need to detail a scenario if you see an issue | 03:31 |
| cmyster | stevebaker: if a person with a server and a configuration defines a new server for the same purpose that was configured slightly differently. might even have a slightly different configuration. Say that this person would like to migrate to the new server and re-use the deployment, he will need to create a new software deployment instead of just re-using the one he has. | 03:34 |
| cmyster | also, why not use the same deployments for different servers | 03:35 |
| cmyster | scratch last line... I thought about it again, | 03:35 |
| cmyster | but reusing a deployment is a valid case no ? | 03:35 |
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| cmyster | (the former server can be discarded for all he cares) | 03:35 |
| lifeless | deployments bind configs to servers | 03:37 |
| stevebaker | cmyster: the resource implementation handles all that. All you do is change the server in the heat template and do a stack update. You don't really care that heat is creating a new deployment under the hood | 03:37 |
| lifeless | so I' not sure reusing it makes sense | 03:37 |
| cmyster | only sense its making is leaving 'junk' in the DB | 03:38 |
| stevebaker | cmyster: you have a unique perspective since you're testing the API, which was created purely to serve the needs of a heat resource | 03:38 |
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| stevebaker | cmyster: also having the deployment id change has a nice side-effect in heat stack updates. Any resources which depend on that deployment will receive the new ID, so they know something has changed (triggering their update) | 03:40 |
| cmyster | stevebaker: if there is a way to do something, I'd like to think about how a person will try to use it, and also much later when (if) Horison will have a way to update/change deployments, I can see people asking the 'why can't I just reuse' | 03:40 |
| * cmyster takes a note of that | 03:41 | |
| cmyster | will call for an interesting scenario test later | 03:41 |
| stevebaker | I'd like users to interact with the configs api directly, but I'm assuming the deployments api will always be consumed directly only by heat, since manually booting servers that can consume deployments would be impractical | 03:42 |
| stevebaker | cmyster: I'm working on image building stuff in devstack now, which is required for scenario tests | 03:44 |
| cmyster | image building? with cinder? | 03:44 |
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| stevebaker | cmyster: fully testing software config needs a custom glance image available which contains os-collect-config etc, plus the software-config hooks in the heat-templates repo | 03:58 |
| cmyster | thats a bit over my head for now :) | 03:59 |
| stevebaker | as long as you're using devstack currently, it will JustWork ;) | 03:59 |
| cmyster | stevebaker: sure, but I need to test all those things on latest RDO as well. | 04:02 |
| stevebaker | cmyster: yep, diskimage-builder will need to be used in the RDO test environment to build these custom test images | 04:06 |
| stevebaker | cmyster: but baby steps, lets get it working upstream first | 04:07 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: hello | 04:23 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: regarding your suggestion for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82853, it would require calling api to resolve the gateway_network and floating network before we compare them. my assumption on the requirement is existing templates using id should work and new templates with id/name on the network field should work.. | 04:27 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: we can warn the user not to mix them once it's deprecated, does that make sense? | 04:28 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: if you have few mins can you please also have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90336/. It requires another +2..thanks | 04:29 |
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| asalkeld | has anyone tried using (say nova list) with just a token? | 05:43 |
| asalkeld | it keeps asking me for a password | 05:43 |
| lifeless | how are you supplying the token? | 05:44 |
| asalkeld | OS_AUTH_TOKEN | 05:44 |
| asalkeld | OS_AUTH_URL | 05:44 |
| asalkeld | unsetting the other stuff | 05:44 |
| asalkeld | it wanted the username/tenantname - I provided that, then it wanted the password- it's getting greedy | 05:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/89750 | 06:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Order and separate imports properly https://review.openstack.org/90526 | 06:44 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix all flake8 problems. https://review.openstack.org/90527 | 06:44 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Distribute create_heat_domain https://review.openstack.org/90515 | 06:44 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Make events return by insertion order https://review.openstack.org/90509 | 06:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Skip tests when loading plugins https://review.openstack.org/84117 | 06:45 |
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| shardy | morning all | 07:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mitsuru Kanabuchi proposed a change to openstack/heat: Shut the heat-engine after all threads finished https://review.openstack.org/86497 | 07:08 |
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| asalkeld | shardy, i need your keystone trust wisdom | 07:27 |
| asalkeld | (maybe a bit later - making supper) | 07:27 |
| asalkeld | egh trying to add trusts to solum | 07:28 |
| shardy | hey asalkeld, sure ping me when you're ready :) | 07:36 |
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| mattoliverau | I'm calling it a day. Night all | 08:11 |
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| asalkeld | shardy, is seems like it is working | 09:50 |
| asalkeld | what do you know | 09:50 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: \o/ | 09:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Truncate status_reason to column length https://review.openstack.org/90863 | 10:15 |
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| asalkeld | shardy, on g+? | 10:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed a change to openstack/heat: Provides ability to reference existing neutron resources https://review.openstack.org/82853 | 12:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/89232 | 12:36 |
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| sdake | morning | 13:05 |
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| ramishra | hello All, Any reason we have contrib tests as part of gate-heat-python26 and not gate-heat-python26? | 13:17 |
| ramishra | sorry,,,, part of gate-heat-python26 and not gate-heat-python27 | 13:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/89232 | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/89243 | 13:50 |
| jdob | shardy: you mentioned that the parameters can automatically be passed to a nested stack without needing to manually map them with get_param. is that already in or just a blueprint? | 13:55 |
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| Qiming | hello? | 14:27 |
| Qiming | any heaters have encountered this problem -- periodic watcher task won't stop even after a stack is been deleted? | 14:30 |
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| shardy | jdob: Hi, sorry for the slow response | 14:55 |
| shardy | jdob: I was actually slightly mistaken, there is a patch which enables passing the resource_registry into nested stacks: | 14:55 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86228/ | 14:55 |
| shardy | The logical next step is probably to enable global parameters too but there actually isn't code for that yet AFAICS | 14:55 |
| jdob | ah, gotcha. i'll keep that in mind and file a blueprint | 14:56 |
| shardy | jdob: good plan, it's definitely something which has been discussed | 14:56 |
| jdob | depending on how we handle the parameter consolidation, we may not be able to use it | 14:57 |
| jdob | but it's a possibility | 14:57 |
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| Qiming | shardy: got a few minutes? | 15:06 |
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| shardy | Qiming: sure | 15:20 |
| Qiming | shardy: just pasted a template here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/78235/ | 15:21 |
| Qiming | no error in stack-create or stack-delete | 15:21 |
| shardy | jdob: for now, it seems safest to assume you have to pass the parameters explicitly, then it'll just be a cleanup if in future you can also use global parameters from the environment | 15:21 |
| Qiming | but the periodic tasks (evaluating watch rules) won't stop | 15:22 |
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| jdob | ok, cool. we may never be able to use global parameters anyway, if we have to handle a scenario where we automatically namespace the params to avoid conflicts | 15:22 |
| Qiming | it seems like a bug, but I am not quite sure ... | 15:22 |
| jdob | but i'll update my design doc that it's not currently supported | 15:22 |
| shardy | Qiming: I though you were planning to use ceilometer for alarms? | 15:22 |
| shardy | s/though/thought | 15:22 |
| shardy | regardless that sounds wrong | 15:23 |
| Qiming | shardy: in this case, I am using CloudWatch alarm | 15:23 |
| Qiming | not the ceilometer based one | 15:23 |
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| Qiming | shardy: my question is whether we want to fix this (CloudWatch alarm), even if it could be a bug | 15:24 |
| shardy | Qiming: there are two impelementations for CloudWatch alarm, depending on what you select in the global environment: | 15:24 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/etc/heat/environment.d/default.yaml#L6 | 15:24 |
| shardy | Qiming: Are you running multiple heat engines? | 15:25 |
| Qiming | shardy: no, just one | 15:25 |
| shardy | Ok, then the watch rules should stop, let me test your template | 15:25 |
| Qiming | shardy: thanks | 15:25 |
| Qiming | 2014-05-02 11:26:14.780 ERROR heat.engine.service [req-8f716aae-23a1-4fd1-9ca1-0dd06b3eefce None None] Unable to retrieve stack 07be32e4-4d9e-473f-a219-0899a52e4180 for periodic task | 15:27 |
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| shardy | Qiming: I'm seeing the same, it looks like a regression caused by the stack locking rework | 15:44 |
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| Qiming | shardy: thanks for the verification. should I file a bug for this? | 15:45 |
| shardy | Qiming: it's OK, I'm raising one now | 15:45 |
| shardy | thanks for spotting the issue! :) | 15:45 |
| Qiming | cool. | 15:45 |
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| Qiming | shardy: another problem when I tried the Ceilometer style of alarm, by modifying environment.d/default.yaml | 15:46 |
| Qiming | I used the template you used for tempest scenario test | 15:46 |
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| Qiming | and ... I cannot create the stack due to 'Circular dependency found'. | 15:47 |
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| Qiming | instance1 --> ha_alarm --> restarter --> instance1 | 15:48 |
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| shardy | Qiming: humm, OK please raise a bug with steps to reproduce and we'll take a look into it | 15:52 |
| Qiming | shardy: will do then | 15:52 |
| shardy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1315044 | 15:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1315044 in heat "Periodic watcher task not killed on stack delete" [Undecided,New] | 15:52 |
| shardy | I'm having a look at a fix now | 15:53 |
| Qiming | shardy: thanks | 15:53 |
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| Qiming | shardy: filed one bug here, https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1315048 | 16:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1315048 in heat "Circular dependency when using Ceilometer alrams" [Undecided,New] | 16:03 |
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| shardy | Qiming: thanks | 16:10 |
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| Qiming | shardy: CloudWatchAlarm has a 'strict_dependency = False', sigh | 16:11 |
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| jasond | shardy: i'm having trouble reproducing https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1315044 | 16:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1315044 in heat "Periodic watcher task not killed on stack delete" [Undecided,New] | 16:25 |
| shardy | jasond: hi! Are you running one or >one engines? | 16:26 |
| jasond | oh, it takes a bit for it to show up | 16:26 |
| shardy | I reproduced it immediately on a single-engine devstack install | 16:26 |
| jasond | single engine | 16:26 |
| shardy | The issue seems to be we don't kill the timer set up in the threadgroup | 16:26 |
| shardy | I'm not quite sure where the threadgroup.stop() should be called | 16:27 |
| jasond | ok, will see if i can come up with a fix | 16:27 |
| shardy | jasond: Ok, great, thanks! | 16:27 |
| jasond | np | 16:27 |
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| shardy | jasond: when you've worked out a fix, can you pls check if it'll need to be backported to icehouse, and if so tag the bug icehouse-backport-potential? | 16:29 |
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| shardy | I'm guessing it probably will be | 16:30 |
| jasond | shardy: sure | 16:30 |
| jasond | unless it's related to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89484 (checking now) | 16:30 |
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| jasond | it's not | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Shut the heat-engine after all threads finished https://review.openstack.org/86497 | 16:34 |
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| zaneb | yaaay. fixed all 450 of my unit test errors :) | 19:24 |
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| sdake | zaneb nice - thats a ton of unit tests :) | 19:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Stop periodic watcher tasks before deleting stack https://review.openstack.org/91656 | 19:32 |
| zaneb | yeah. refactoring can be painful | 19:32 |
| sdake | atleast we have good test cases to guard the gate :) | 19:33 |
| sdake | I found the test case refactor of oslo.messaging painful as well - there were literally like 500 test cases that failed | 19:34 |
| sdake | after summit need to get back to that | 19:34 |
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| zaneb | yeah, there's so much repeated code in unit tests | 19:41 |
| zaneb | sometimes you can knock out 50 with one change | 19:41 |
| zaneb | but quite often not :( | 19:41 |
| zaneb | vim macros ftw | 19:41 |
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| radix | huh | 21:25 |
| radix | has anyone noticed a problem with "git review -d"? It's telling me it can't find 81394 | 21:25 |
| radix | umm... ok, it worked the second time | 21:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Engine changes for API param to show soft-deleted stacks https://review.openstack.org/88642 | 21:47 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning all | 22:08 |
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| zaneb | it's a tight fit at at the bottom of this rabbit hole, but I'm gonna shave this yak | 22:33 |
| asalkeld | zaneb, there are yak at the bottom of rabbit holes? | 22:34 |
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| asalkeld | so that's where they have been hiding | 22:34 |
| zaneb | I know, right? | 22:35 |
| zaneb | who knew | 22:35 |
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