Tuesday, 2014-05-20

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openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Ignore template validation when checking stacks  https://review.openstack.org/8990501:27
openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move API parameter parsing from OpenStack API to engine  https://review.openstack.org/9291901:27
openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement check for Instance resource  https://review.openstack.org/8990601:27
openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Check resources are in expected states  https://review.openstack.org/8990801:27
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harlowjado u guys know if heat is affected the galera issue?03:41
harlowjais https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L446 a select for update?03:41
stevebakerharlowja: i was wondering about our db lock code03:42
harlowjaya, i'm not sure, damn ORM layer :-P03:42
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stevebakerharlowja: stack_lock_steal could have this issue03:45
harlowjaya, at first look it seems to be a query then update03:45
cmystermorning03:47
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stevebakerharlowja: maybe not http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/rel_0_9/changelog/migration_09.html#new-for-update-support-on-select-query03:48
stevebakerharlowja: only way to find out really is to turn on sql loggin03:49
harlowjayuppers03:49
harlowjadamn ORMs, lol03:49
stevebakerironically, if stack_lock_steal doesn't have this issue, it probably has a race instead ;)03:50
harlowjaraces, locks and taxes, the 3 things in life, lol03:52
stevebakerand off-by-one bugs03:53
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8975006:10
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pas-hamorning all :)06:38
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Call glanceclient to get_image_id  https://review.openstack.org/9402107:06
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shardymorning07:26
therveGood morning!07:28
shardytherve: hey, did eglynn catch you on Friday afternoon?07:29
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therveshardy, No :/07:30
therveWe'll do it the old fashion way07:30
shardyI spoke with him briefly at lunchtime, shame we didn't manage to get all three of us together07:30
shardytherve: Basically he's happy to support the trusts work in ceilometer, if we're in agreement that is the way to go?07:31
therveOkay07:31
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shardytherve: the other thing to mention is I started looking at oauth support again, after chatting with Steve Martinelli from the keystone team07:32
shardyThat now looks nearly at a point where we could use it07:32
therveThat'd be worth trying07:32
therveI saw the client patch is almost there, and they fixed the server part in icehouse I believe07:32
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shardyThe advantage of that approach instead of trusts is the accesskey isn't tied to a specific consumer (AIUI)07:33
shardytherve: I'm planning to take a look into it in the next couple of weeks but have some other stuff I'm plannning to do first07:34
shardy(heat resource for Ironic)07:35
therveshardy, Ok no worries07:35
shardytherve: I've not dug into the details yet, but atm it looks like a better model than trusts where you want to share ability to impersonate a user between services07:37
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shardyIt also solves (or should solve AFAICT) the chained delegation problem asalkeld has with solum07:37
therveGood point07:38
asalkeldlooking forward to that shardy07:40
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skraynevMorning all07:45
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pas-haskraynev: morning07:48
skraynevpas-ha: hi ;)07:48
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skraynevdoes anybody know which solution was received about alternative meeting time ?07:52
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Order imports in alphabetical order (9/9)  https://review.openstack.org/8536107:55
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skraynevpas-ha: do you know anything about alternative time meeting? Is it still run every second week?08:25
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shardyskraynev: I don't think the final decision has been made yet, although I know zaneb was planning to change the time of the 0000 UTC one08:25
pas-haskraynev: no, unfortunately I have no info beside the present ML, will need to ask08:26
skraynevpas-ha: ok08:26
shardyI expect zaneb will be around later & can clarify :)08:26
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skraynevshardy: thank you, it is not good news..08:26
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Call glanceclient to get_image_id  https://review.openstack.org/9402108:27
skraynevshardy: 0000 UTC it's locally 4 AM... I hope that one meeting will be at the normal time (2000 UTC)  still.08:28
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shardyskraynev: so do I, it's 1am where I am08:29
shardyAFAIK it's only the 0000UTC one which may move, not the 2000 one, but you should check with zaneb later08:29
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pas-haskraynev: so that's the point, the 00UTC is going to change to smth else (to better or worse for us that's another question)08:29
skraynevshardy: ok , will do08:29
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skraynevpas-ha: yeap.08:30
skraynevshardy: I think we have the problem in gates... For last patches job check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full was failed08:33
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pas-haskraynev: in those job the way I see it the devstack running is stuck on trove db migration script09:06
pas-haand in the same place, applying 12->1309:07
pas-hastrangely check-tempest-dsvm-neutron is working fine and applies those migrations successfully09:08
thervepas-ha, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94315/09:10
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pas-hatherve: thanks09:12
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add range constraint to AWS volume size  https://review.openstack.org/8988109:18
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add datastore properties to OS::Trove::Instance  https://review.openstack.org/6053209:22
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openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Do not validate constraints in schema constructor  https://review.openstack.org/9148509:23
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Do no re-validate parameters for existing stacks  https://review.openstack.org/9432909:23
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anikethi09:30
aniketanybody online?09:31
pas-hayep09:33
aniket<pas-ha> hi,i want to lauch a stack using template-url as a resource..but i want to hardcode the URL path in openstack heat code...i searched a lot bt i am not able to get the path,that where should i hardcode the URL path...do you have any idea regarding this??09:41
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pas-haaniket: I don't think it is possible. AFAIK the whole template resolution is done on client side, so that it is the python-heatclient that fetches the template from url, forms the request and send the template to heat09:52
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shardyaniket: what do you mean by "hardcode the URL path in openstack heat code", why do you want to do that?09:56
shardyexplaining what you are trying to do may help us suggest how to do it :)09:56
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aniket<shardy > i want that,whenever i will launch stack,through template-URL as a resource,i will only get the URL which i will specified(Hardcode)10:07
shardyaniket: perhaps you want to put the URL with a resource alias into /etc/heat/environment.d/default.yaml?10:08
shardyThat will expose the template as a provider resource, for all users10:08
shardyhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/environment.html10:09
shardyAlternatively if it's just for one user, you can do the same thing via a local environment file which you pass in when creating the stack10:10
anikethttp://paste.openstack.org/show/80989/10:15
aniketthis is my default.yaml file10:15
aniketshould i add my default URL path here???10:15
shardyaniket: Yes, if you want, you can add a "My::Custom::Resource": "<url pointing to heat template>" line10:17
shardyIt should work for both http URLs and local files (local to where heat-engine is running)10:17
shardyaniket: this may help if you need a basic introduction to provider templates:10:19
shardyhttp://hardysteven.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/heat-providersenvironments-101-ive.html10:19
skraynevshardy: do you know why we use variable with name logger instead of LOG in several places ? :) (Possibly I may ask Zane about it... but I hope you have answer too)10:19
shardyskraynev: it's just a historical inconsistency, because folks somethings do things in different ways10:20
shardys/somethings/sometimes10:20
aniketthanks shardy..i will try that..if i got any problem i will get back to you :)10:20
shardyaniket: np10:21
skraynevshardy: Oh... ok ;)10:22
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Set rollback status early in update if triggered  https://review.openstack.org/9237111:47
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix runtime data resolution in rackspace tests  https://review.openstack.org/9435212:41
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Replacing variable logger on LOG  https://review.openstack.org/9435612:51
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Replacing variable logger on LOG  https://review.openstack.org/9435613:11
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support  https://review.openstack.org/9425513:11
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated  https://review.openstack.org/9421713:11
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Replacing variable logger on LOG  https://review.openstack.org/9435613:13
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zanebskraynev, pas-ha, shardy: the 20:00Z one will stay regardless (that's this week's meeting)13:21
zanebskraynev, pas-ha, shardy: the 00:00Z one will probably move to 12:00Z13:21
zanebat least, my plan is to try that out starting next week13:22
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skraynevzaneb:great news! ;) 1200 UTC it's very comfortable time ;)13:23
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skraynevzaneb: just for clarification: tomorrow is standard meeting time (2000), right?13:24
zanebskraynev: correct13:25
zanebhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282014-05-21_2000_UTC.2913:25
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shardyzaneb: nice, 12.00 certainly works better for me too :)13:28
skraynevzaneb: ok. thanks you13:28
shardyDon't suppose anyone else running devstack on Fw/qpid edora has issues with heat atm?13:29
shardyw/qpid on Fedora even13:29
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shardyAPI not connecting to the engine for some reason, other services working OK13:29
* shardy made the mistake of updating everything13:30
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pas-hazaneb: thanks for the info, and 1200Z is a much better time for me too :)13:40
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support  https://review.openstack.org/9425513:43
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support  https://review.openstack.org/9425513:44
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zanebshardy: never update.13:45
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shardyzaneb: ha, well I've been avoiding it since before summit13:46
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support  https://review.openstack.org/9425513:46
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated  https://review.openstack.org/9421713:46
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* zaneb has been avoiding it since 201213:47
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shardyzaneb: Do you know the current status of the oslo config generator stuff?13:49
shardywe're seeing changes land without updating conf.sample :(13:49
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therveshardy, Looking at it13:51
therveI'm trying to ping Doug about an issue but can't find him13:52
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shardytherve: ok, cool, I guess we'll have to do a re-sync of the sample when it's working again13:53
shardywould be good if we could try to catch them at review time though13:53
therveshardy, Yeah, it's *almost* working13:53
therveI almost suggested it when those patches landed, but as we have no way to generate it...13:54
shardywell surely if you're adding one option you can manually update the sample?13:54
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therveI guess13:55
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shardyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/132130314:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1321303 in heat "engine deadlock with multiple workers" [Undecided,New]14:11
shardyCan anyone confirm if they are seeing the same?14:11
shardyTurns out something just locks up if I have >1 workers, and the engine defaults the missing config option to 414:12
shardySpamapS: ^^14:12
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement update of AWS::EC2::SecurityGroup  https://review.openstack.org/8854814:25
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andersonvomgood morning, folks14:50
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thervezaneb, BTW I wanted to chat about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91179/14:51
zanebtherve: looking...14:52
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zanebtherve: seems reasonable14:53
zanebsucks that we are stuck adding stuff to the old AWS-style output :/14:53
thervezaneb, Okay cool. We haven't really enforced the interface of template-validate14:54
therveYeah I agree14:54
zanebv2 api will be much nicer14:54
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therveHum you're right that'd be a nice improvement14:54
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andersonvomdoes anybody know whether the resource.validate() method only gets called if you create a stack (i.e. if I just run TaskRunner(res.create)() it will not validate)?14:55
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randallburtmorning heaters14:56
zanebtherve: the parameters/constraints stuff actually know how to render themselves nicely; that translation crap is just for backwards compatibility with the cfn API14:56
zanebtherve: anyway, I +1'd the patch14:57
thervezaneb, Thanks14:57
andersonvomrandallburt: morning!14:57
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zanebandersonvom: a cursory inspection of the source shows that only properties get validated in Resource.create() http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/engine/resource.py#n43014:58
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andersonvomzaneb: hummm... is that by default?  I mean, a bunch of resources have a validate() method that will not be called on create.  That seems odd.14:59
andersonvoms/default/design/15:00
zanebwell, it's presumably already done when we validate the stack15:00
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zanebymmv in the unit tests, obviously15:01
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andersonvomyeah, it just feels odd to me that a resource has a validate method that would otherwise raise an exception, but it will get created with no issues because that validation takes place only someplace else in the code.15:03
andersonvomwhen it really seems like it should be a concern that belongs to the resource, rather than to the stack, for example.15:04
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pas-haandersonvom: resource validate is called on stack.validate, that is called on stack create/update/preview.. may be somewhere else15:06
tspatzierhas anyone had problems recently with gate test check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full? At first glance it looks like the devstack setup is taking too long.15:06
pas-hatspatzier: that was just fixed15:06
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pas-hait was trove migration scripts on postgres15:06
tspatzierpas-ha: ah, good to know. So I will recheck. Is the a bug number to re-check? Or recheck no bug?15:07
pas-hatspatzier: just recheck no bug, as the bug was in trove, not registered to tempest AFAIK15:07
tspatzierok, thanks pas-ha15:08
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therveNope15:08
zanebandersonvom: the real problem here is that there are two types of validation: pure template validation and validation-with-all-input-data. We use the same terminology and don't distinguish clearly between them :(15:08
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thervepas-ha, tspatzier there is a mail in the mailing list about it15:08
therveNever do recheck no bug15:09
therverecheck bug 132109315:09
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1321093 in trove "*-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full failing on trove-manage db_sync" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132109315:09
tspatzierthanks therve15:09
pas-haso one can reference a non-tempest bug on recheck?15:09
tspatzierSeems like I have to optimise my mail filters15:10
thervepas-ha, Of course15:10
zanebpas-ha: I don't see why not15:10
pas-haok, good to know. thought it was only for bugs reported to tempest itself15:10
zanebdo "recheck no bug" if the gate job got killed and never reported anything. other than that, don't do it15:11
pas-hayes, got it.15:11
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randallburtif any core is bored, I would appreciate an eye on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88636/.15:13
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tspatzierzaneb: more a process question: one of my patches got approved by shardy before the gate test failed. When the recheck is successful, can I just re-approve? Or will I have to ping one other core to do it? ... or will the approve flag just be re-added automatically?15:15
therveYou should use reverify in that case15:15
tspatzierd'oh15:16
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tspatziertherve: lucky are those people who can read :-)15:17
tspatziertherve: can I just add another comment with reverify even though the recheck from the previous comment is running?15:17
thervetspatzier, Probably not15:18
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tspatzierok, then I will wait15:19
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zanebtspatzier: therve is correct, but to answer your more general question, it's OK to reapprove your own patch (e.g. after a trivial rebase)15:22
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tspatzierzaneb: ok, then I'll do that. Thanks15:23
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zanebwe also technically adopted the policy that if you come across a long running changeset that other cores have +2'd in the past and any changes since then are trivial, it's ok to just +2/+A15:26
zanebnobody really does that though15:26
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zanebimo we're all adults here ;)15:26
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zanebprocess is overrated15:26
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tspatzierzaneb: agree on that. just wanted to make sure I don't do anything bad with the new power I have ;-)15:28
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zaneb;)15:29
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated  https://review.openstack.org/9421716:03
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support  https://review.openstack.org/9425516:03
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated  https://review.openstack.org/9421716:03
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Move API parameter parsing from OpenStack API to engine  https://review.openstack.org/9291916:23
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor neutron resources lookup  https://review.openstack.org/9442316:45
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add validation for mutually exclusive properties  https://review.openstack.org/9442416:51
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SpamapSshardy: the default is ncpu16:53
SpamapSshardy: and we've deployed now at least 5 times with ncpu == 2416:54
shardySpamapS: Yeah, which doesn't work, or at least it doesn't for me16:54
SpamapSshardy: with a 40 resource stack.. using software configs.. so .. pretty much exercising everything except autoscale16:54
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shardySpamapS: possibly something in my environment, but I'm not sure what yet16:54
SpamapSactually 40 servers.. so more like 200 resources16:54
shardySpamapS: cool, I guess we just need confirmation to find out if any other devstack/Fedora users have the same problem I do16:55
SpamapSshardy: I'm happy to try the same stack that you're attempting to attempt a reproduction16:55
shardySpamapS: It's not a stack, *nothing* works, e.g heat stack-list just hangs and times out16:56
shardynum_engine_workers = 1 fixes the problem for me16:56
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shardySpamapS: It could be a qpid/rabbit thing16:57
shardyas I'm using qpid16:57
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therveshardy, I tried briefly and it worked for me with rabbit17:02
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jpeelershardy: i'm having qpid problems currently too after updating devstack17:05
shardyjpeeler: interesting, and does num_engine_workers = 1 in heat.conf fix it for you?17:05
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jpeelershardy: yes it does...17:07
shardyjpeeler: Thanks, can you mark bug #1321303 as confirmed please?17:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1321303 in heat "engine deadlock with multiple workers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132130317:08
shardytherve: thanks for the info17:08
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SpamapSshardy: AHhh that would be unfortunate and _weird_17:09
SpamapSshardy: time to get qpid into the gate. :)17:10
shardySpamapS: yup, and yup17:10
SpamapSBTW, if we need to revert that change then lets do it.17:10
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SpamapSshardy: better to back it out and figure out the problem than to have all qpid trunk users broken17:12
therveI actually wonder how that can work17:12
SpamapStherve: how what can work?17:13
therveSpamapS, The whole worker thing.17:13
SpamapStherve: each worker has a uuid17:13
SpamapSgenerated after the fork17:13
SpamapStherve: so they're just like workers on another host17:13
therveSpamapS, Do they have a different engine_id though?17:14
SpamapStherve: yes engine_id is a runtime generated thing17:14
therveOkay17:14
jpeelershardy: i'm glad you shared that. i was over in #qpid trying to figure out what was going on17:14
therveIt does fork without exec, which is generally a bad idea in python17:15
openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/heat: Revert "Default engine workers to the number of CPUs"  https://review.openstack.org/9442817:15
SpamapStherve: its early17:15
SpamapStherve: this is identical to the way nova-api works btw17:16
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shardyjpeeler: yeah I was pretty confused too earlier17:16
therveIt's often not nearly enough. Like after a evenlet.monkey_patch call for example. But that's just my experience17:16
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SpamapStherve: that could very well be the problem, given that we monkey_patch as the second executable line in bin/heat-engine ;)17:18
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SpamapStherve: it would require some re-working to re-exec .. as we'd need to have a short-cut to the "I'm a child" part... but not major surgery17:20
SpamapSshardy: are you going to chase the real bug fix? I don't have any qpid setups.. it may be a day or two until I can look at it.17:20
therveSpamapS, Maybe it's not the problem. I've seen major headaches trying to make fork work in python in the past though17:20
shardySpamapS: I can dig into it, but I've not done so yet as I'm not really sure where to start17:21
SpamapSshardy: since the main difference is impl_qpid vs. impl_kombu .. I'd say step 1 is perhaps to try kombu + rabbit and see if that still reproduces.17:22
SpamapSshardy: if that doesn't then we have likely found a bug in impl_qpid17:22
SpamapSOR the forking stuff is only manifesting in impl_qpid and we've found a bug in eventlet17:23
SpamapSOR we failed to read the eventlet manual properly and we should never fork after monkey_patch :)17:23
shardyyay ;)17:23
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shardySpamapS: if nobody fixes it overnight, then I'll probably take it and try to work out a fix tomorrow17:25
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openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS:Barbican:Order resource  https://review.openstack.org/8190617:36
openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS:Barbican:Verification resource  https://review.openstack.org/8360717:36
openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS:Barbican:Secret resource  https://review.openstack.org/7935517:36
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Add range constraint to AWS volume size  https://review.openstack.org/8988117:47
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Do not validate constraints in schema constructor  https://review.openstack.org/9148517:53
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SpamapSshardy: I just thought of something with the multi-engine broken stuff..18:15
SpamapSshardy: does it also deadlock if you just run heat-engine twice manually?18:15
SpamapSLike basically does multi-engine even work in qpid land?18:15
SpamapSwondering if maybe the qpid client lib uses hostname somewhere18:15
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zanebSpamapS: running heat-engine twice manually always used to work for me18:40
zaneband by "work" I mean I would regularly do it by accident18:41
zaneband then every second request would exhibit the bug I just fixed18:41
zaneband confusion would ensue18:41
SpamapShah18:41
zanebalthough that was before the locking thing18:42
SpamapSSo I think therve may be right that forking after the monkey patch may be causing issues w/ the qpid library that we just don't see with kombu18:42
zanebso you could still be right that it's a case of qpid not playing well with the locks18:42
SpamapSI looked at the qpid lib.. nothing hostname-y in there18:42
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zanebah, I missed that part of the scrollback18:43
SpamapShave not looked deeply into qpid's python lib18:45
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spredzyhi guys, I was wondering what was the difference between the SSL config in [ssl] and the one in [heat_api] section ?18:46
SpamapShm I do see that the sasl client in qpid will feed username@socket.gethostname() in as auth.. but thats the only real use of gethostname that isn't also accompanied by os.getpid() in that chain18:49
SpamapSso further evidence that we're just failing on monkeypatchy stuff18:49
zanebspredzy: it *appears* that the [ssl] section is only used by rabbitmq at the moment18:52
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zanebspredzy: I know there's going to be a follow-up question, and I'm going to tell you right now that I don't know the answer ;)18:52
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spredzyzaneb, rabbitmq ssl related fields are the kombu_ssl_X parameters18:54
openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix exceptions in update_stack  https://review.openstack.org/8940918:55
zanebthere's the follow-up ;)18:55
spredzyahaha no question asked :)18:55
spredzyok, let's put it this way, is heat_api_cfn, heat_api_cloudwatch and heat_api each different services ?18:56
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spredzyeach listening on their own socket ?18:56
zanebyes, they all have different binaries18:56
zanebcorrect18:56
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spredzyzaneb, ok thanks. That what I needed to know18:57
zanebexcellent :)18:57
zanebactually, it looks like the [ssl] section is unused18:58
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spredzy:o really ?18:58
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zanebbut it's in oslo-incubator and gets imported by the kombu driver18:58
zanebso it shows up in the output18:59
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zanebwe have all these scripts to check that you ran the config generator before checking in a change, but nothing to check that e.g. the architecture of oslo actually makes any sense19:00
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spredzyhmmm ok interesting19:01
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SpamapSstevebaker: did we find/file a bug about not renewing tokens when they've expired?19:19
SpamapSstevebaker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7494353/ .. :(19:19
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stevebakerSpamapS: we did19:52
stevebakerI will dig it up in about an hour19:53
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thervezaneb, It seems to be used by the kombu driver, not just imported19:57
zanebspredzy: I stand corrected ^19:57
spredzytherve, zaneb hence [ssl] and the kombu_ssl are overlapeed ?19:59
SpamapSstevebaker: cool thanks.19:59
thervespredzy, zaneb: No I'm wrong, it's not used20:00
stevebakerSpamapS: I am hoping shardy will try switching to a trust token early so the expiry is known, then refresh before expiry20:01
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated  https://review.openstack.org/9421720:02
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support  https://review.openstack.org/9425520:05
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated  https://review.openstack.org/9421720:05
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Revert "Default engine workers to the number of CPUs"  https://review.openstack.org/9442820:07
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support  https://review.openstack.org/9425520:07
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support  https://review.openstack.org/9425520:10
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated  https://review.openstack.org/9421720:10
therveI can't even install qpidd on ubuntu :/20:10
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openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add resource attrs and properties to stack-preview  https://review.openstack.org/9447921:25
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sloweHello all, I'm looking for some documentation/examples of using value_specs in a HOT template. Specifically, I want to create a Neutron distributed router via Heat. Would the value_specs line look something like 'value_specs: {"distributed": "True"}'?21:35
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stevebakerslowe: how would you do the equivalent with the neutron cli?21:38
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slowestevebaker: Let me see... neutron router-create ... --distributed True (if memory serves correctly)21:40
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stevebakerslowe: then either value_specs: {distributed: "True"}, or value_specs: {distributed: true} should work21:41
slowestevebaker: Thanks! Not in a place where I can check it myself at the moment, so thought I'd ask here. I appreciate the response!21:42
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openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add resource attrs and properties to stack-preview  https://review.openstack.org/9447921:48
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zaneblifeless: when will we know more about the tripleo mid-cycle meetup?22:02
mattoliverauMorning all22:04
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lifelesszaneb: when jcoufal mails the list... I will ping him22:07
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zaneblifeless: thanks :)22:13
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Build sphinx pdf with rst2pdf  https://review.openstack.org/9449122:39
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SpamapSstevebaker: over here.. just in case people aren't watching #tripleo,. Regarding delete lock breaking.. I had thought that delete was intended to be able to steal the lock so it could cancel the ongoing operation. Perhaps instead of steal, it just needs to be able to inject the cancel instruction and the owning engine will grab it and cancel... lock intact.23:02
stevebakerIt looks like all that is needed is service.py#709 if stack.status == (DELETE, IN_PROGRESS) then return23:04
stevebakeri.e. never stop an in-progress delete to start another delete23:04
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