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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement NovaFloatingIpAssociation res updatable https://review.openstack.org/93389 | 02:07 |
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| cmyster | morning | 03:36 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement NovaFloatingIpAssociation res updatable https://review.openstack.org/93389 | 03:44 |
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| linuxbaby | hi guys.. does heat has a mechanism for sceduling backup and restoring it | 05:23 |
| linuxbaby | for example: an overcloud is deployed by heat.. if that installation is blasted.. will heat be able to deploy the same overrcloud from a backup structure | 05:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/89750 | 06:05 |
| therve | Good morning! | 06:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use oslo.config for heat-keystone-setup-domain https://review.openstack.org/90528 | 06:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/heat: Patch 033 migration to work w/ MySQL 5.6 https://review.openstack.org/92421 | 06:45 |
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| linuxbaby | anyone knwo about future enhancement of heat to backup a stack it ha deployed | 06:47 |
| linuxbaby | is there any such discussion or roadmap available | 06:47 |
| asalkeld | hi linuxbaby | 06:49 |
| asalkeld | not that I know of | 06:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/heat: Reduce length of tenant ID https://review.openstack.org/92406 | 06:50 |
| linuxbaby | asalkeld, okies | 06:50 |
| asalkeld | checkout the blueprints here: ureargreeteedism | 06:50 |
| SpamapS | linuxbaby: that is actively being avoided | 06:50 |
| SpamapS | linuxbaby: Such a thing is a workflow operation. | 06:50 |
| asalkeld | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat | 06:50 |
| SpamapS | Heat makes things, not actions. | 06:51 |
| linuxbaby | okies | 06:51 |
| asalkeld | tho' SpamapS to achieve that each resource would need an action to do backup | 06:51 |
| SpamapS | linuxbaby: I believe there will be some nice hooks for workflow to tie into | 06:51 |
| asalkeld | (called from elsewhere) | 06:52 |
| SpamapS | asalkeld: aye, that will be hooks into workflow.. but Heat itself isn't going to have a "backup" action. | 06:52 |
| asalkeld | I think we are agreeing | 06:52 |
| asalkeld | :) | 06:52 |
| SpamapS | I'm quite interested to see what sort of emergent properties "user defined actions" might have. :) | 06:52 |
| SpamapS | asalkeld: we're violently agreeing | 06:52 |
| asalkeld | wow 160 blueprints | 06:53 |
| asalkeld | blueprinted to death | 06:53 |
| SpamapS | bathed in blueprints | 06:54 |
| asalkeld | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYZ2GzYAw_Q | 06:55 |
| asalkeld | facebook using chef ^ | 06:55 |
| asalkeld | 10000 nodes / cluster | 06:55 |
| SpamapS | those poor sods | 06:56 |
| SpamapS | don't they know they can't do that? | 06:56 |
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| asalkeld | seemed a bit hacky to me | 06:58 |
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| SpamapS | asalkeld: well they know they'll go the way of Zynga soon enough. ;) | 07:07 |
| asalkeld | well they are holding on for the moment | 07:08 |
| asalkeld | everyone is wait for the next big thing... | 07:09 |
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| asalkeld | (social media widget) | 07:09 |
| asalkeld | facebook growing a beard, twitter stalled, g+ never took off really | 07:10 |
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| SpamapS | graaahh.. I hate when tox -epy27 locally does not reproduce "the problem" | 07:10 |
| asalkeld | SpamapS, your pc is probably too fast | 07:11 |
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| * asalkeld back to choosing a restaurant for tonight | 07:11 | |
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| SpamapS | hah I think it is that my machine is too fast (or rather, has more cores than the testing boxes | 07:17 |
| skraynev | morning all | 07:19 |
| therve | tspatzier, Hey, around to chat about #1321540 ? | 07:25 |
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| pas-ha | morning all :) | 07:56 |
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| tspatzier | Hi therve | 08:00 |
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| shardy | morning all | 08:01 |
| therve | tspatzier, So I'm looking at the issue. I wonder if we can change the behavior without breaking backward compatibility | 08:01 |
| tspatzier | therve: so you think a fix would break backward compatibility? I did not look into details so far, but had not assumed any compatibility issues. | 08:02 |
| therve | tspatzier, So if I cast the input to integer, but you had allowed_values=["1", "2", "3"] previously, it would break | 08:03 |
| tspatzier | So before, one had to defined allowed_values as string even for number params? | 08:04 |
| therve | Yeah | 08:06 |
| therve | Arguably to work around the bug, but still | 08:06 |
| tspatzier | So the code would basically have to work with both string and numeric values. Everything else is not really intuitive. | 08:07 |
| tspatzier | Too bad we did not see this until now. | 08:07 |
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| tspatzier | therve: I have a meeting now, but if you like I can have a look after lunch. Have you started any coding for me to take into account? | 08:11 |
| therve | Yeah I have the patch breaking the compatibility :) | 08:11 |
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| tspatzier | therve: nice :-) Can you paste this somewhere? Then I can think about it this afternoon. | 08:13 |
| therve | tspatzier, http://paste.openstack.org/show/81040/ | 08:14 |
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| tspatzier | therve: ok, thanks. I'll have a look and ping you later | 08:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated https://review.openstack.org/94217 | 08:19 |
| tspatzier | therve: if you have time in the meantime: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94329 - that's for the custom_constraint issue we discussed before the summit | 08:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated https://review.openstack.org/94217 | 08:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support https://review.openstack.org/94255 | 08:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated https://review.openstack.org/94217 | 08:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support https://review.openstack.org/94255 | 08:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated https://review.openstack.org/94217 | 08:28 |
| shardy | tspatzier: There's a minor test issue, otherwise looks good, thanks! :) | 08:30 |
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| tspatzier | shardy: thanks, I'll fix that. | 08:32 |
| * SpamapS tries to split up https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/convergence a bit so work can proceed | 08:33 | |
| shardy | SpamapS: hey, was there going to be a top-level wiki page with some distilled summary of the design too? | 08:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/heat: Reduce length of tenant ID https://review.openstack.org/92406 | 08:33 |
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| shardy | I was thinking a diagram, few words and a list of BP's | 08:34 |
| SpamapS | shardy: right now its just the etherpad. I think an actual piece of documentation in the manual might need to be written from that.. so that users can understand the change. | 08:34 |
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| shardy | SpamapS: Yeah I was really thinking, given the complexity and size of the change, that a minmal "design document" for developers would be a good idea | 08:35 |
| shardy | Just like a small wiki page with a summary of where we're headed | 08:35 |
| shardy | nothing too heavyweight :) | 08:35 |
| SpamapS | shardy: yeah there's a pretty good bit in there under "Programming model" | 08:36 |
| shardy | SpamapS: got a link? I don't seem to be able to find it atm | 08:37 |
| SpamapS | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-workflow-vs-convergence | 08:37 |
| SpamapS | shardy: linked to from the blueprint | 08:37 |
| SpamapS | shardy: I think that can be distilled out into a more static document that guides implementors. | 08:37 |
| shardy | wall-of-text-tastic ;) | 08:37 |
| SpamapS | shardy: I'm attempting to take the bits of obvious design and put them into their own bps (convergence-observer and convergence-engine) | 08:38 |
| shardy | SpamapS: Thats a great source of data, I was thinking of something which pulls the key decisions and design changes | 08:38 |
| shardy | Just like you did for https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/RollingUpdates | 08:38 |
| SpamapS | And then I'll feel better about making the wiki page just about the end goal, and we can change the spec URL | 08:38 |
| shardy | SpamapS: Ok, cool, sounds good | 08:39 |
| SpamapS | shardy: yeah thats where we're headed. :) | 08:39 |
| SpamapS | though.. RollingUpdates.. still not done. :( | 08:39 |
| SpamapS | anyway.. I'll retire for the evening now | 08:39 |
| shardy | I'm happy to help btw, but I don't necessarily have the stuff distilled enough in my own head yet, hence the request :) | 08:39 |
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| shardy | o/ | 08:40 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: feel free to get started with the spec template .. if you screw it up.. I'll just delete it all anyway ;) | 08:40 |
| shardy | lol | 08:40 |
| shardy | I may do so later, after I've dug into the qpid issues | 08:41 |
| SpamapS | YES | 08:41 |
| SpamapS | good.. because we don't want that revert in our rack. ;) | 08:41 |
| SpamapS | racks actually.. 2 racks now making good use of 24-cores of heat-engine ;) | 08:41 |
| SpamapS | ok sleep | 08:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Do no re-validate parameters for existing stacks https://review.openstack.org/94329 | 08:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mitsuru Kanabuchi proposed a change to openstack/heat: Restore resource_id from backup_stack when delete https://review.openstack.org/86232 | 08:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Call glanceclient to get_image_id https://review.openstack.org/94021 | 09:08 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Migrate to glanceclient to get image id https://review.openstack.org/94021 | 09:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Add code coverage in resource list test https://review.openstack.org/87846 | 09:25 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Fix empty resource list index out of range error https://review.openstack.org/87269 | 09:25 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Use oslo.config for heat-keystone-setup-domain https://review.openstack.org/90528 | 09:26 |
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| tiantian | Hi all, I have register a bp about heat quota : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/add-quota-api-for-heat. Welcome feedback about this. | 09:31 |
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| shardy | tiantian: thanks, I was thinking we needed that while using heat via the horizon UI recently | 09:34 |
| shardy | probably we need a quota API in addition to the config file absolute limits (which should also be exposed via an API) | 09:35 |
| tiantian | I think heat should support this, not via the horizon. | 09:35 |
| shardy | tiantian: I agree, but it's obviously missing when you use horizon, because other projects have the quota pie-chart pictures, and heat doesn't | 09:36 |
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| tiantian | So we should make heat support this first, should we? | 09:42 |
| shardy | tiantian: yes | 09:42 |
| tiantian | Thanks. I will think about how to implement :) | 09:44 |
| shardy | tiantian: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/limits-api | 09:45 |
| shardy | FYI, I raised that a while ago, to add the absolute limits API | 09:45 |
| shardy | it would be nice to have that and the quota API implemented ;) | 09:46 |
| elynn | Hi all | 09:46 |
| elynn | I have some questions about mox in unittest | 09:47 |
| elynn | when I use self.m.StubOutWithMock(os.path, 'exists') | 09:47 |
| elynn | how can I set os.path.exists(specific_file) always return True? | 09:48 |
| sab_ | tiantian, shardy : I believe having max event quote per stack will restrict number of signals handled and state changes. I am right? | 09:48 |
| elynn | I mean when I use os.path.exists('a.txt').AndReturn(True), it only affects once, not always. | 09:49 |
| pas-ha | add .MultipleTimes(). | 09:49 |
| pas-ha | smth like this | 09:49 |
| shardy | sab_: No, it just handles how many we store, e.g the history | 09:49 |
| elynn | pas-ha, like os.path.exists.MultipleTimes ? | 09:50 |
| tiantian | yes, os.path.exists('a.txt').MultipleTimes().AndReturn(True) | 09:50 |
| pas-ha | os.path.exists(file-name).MultipleTimes().AndReturn(True) | 09:50 |
| shardy | elynn: FWIW I've always found stubbing os.path very difficult due to side-effects which break the test runner | 09:51 |
| shardy | generally it's better to wrap the path handling and stub the wrapper function instead | 09:52 |
| shardy | Like I did in TestPolicyEnforcer::stub_policyfile | 09:52 |
| pas-ha | elynn: just make sure you always call it with specified file name, otherwise it ValidateAll will break | 09:52 |
| tiantian | shardy:sorry I didn't notice your bp, so you mean you will implement it? | 09:52 |
| pas-ha | s/break/fail | 09:52 |
| elynn | shardy, Thanks, I may have a look at it! | 09:53 |
| elynn | pas-ha, Yes , always with specified file name | 09:54 |
| elynn | pas-ha, MultipleTimes() works fine for me! Just don't know this function will bring with any side-effects like shardy said. | 09:54 |
| pas-ha | elynn: well, you need to try | 09:55 |
| tiantian | shardy: and there is another bp about add glance image resource, hope you can review it. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90976/ Thanks very much. | 09:56 |
| pas-ha | also, "mock" framework has given me no problem when patching os.path if I remember correctly, so if you encounter problems you could try it instead of mox | 09:56 |
| pas-ha | besides, "mock" is encouraged for new tests in OS | 09:56 |
| shardy | tiantian: I've been meaning to get to it, if you have time to pick it up then feel free :) | 09:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support https://review.openstack.org/94255 | 09:57 |
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| tiantian | shardy: Yes. I want to pick it up. Thanks. | 10:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat-cfntools: Update sysvinit function to support ubuntu https://review.openstack.org/93270 | 10:10 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Synced jsonutils from oslo-incubator https://review.openstack.org/91069 | 10:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat-cfntools: Update sysvinit function to support ubuntu https://review.openstack.org/93270 | 10:13 |
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| tiantian | shardy: and do you mind to approve the bp :https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/add-quota-api-for-heat. Thanks. | 10:13 |
| shardy | tiantian: what is your launchpad ID? | 10:14 |
| tiantian | huangtianhua | 10:14 |
| shardy | tiantian: Ah, I wasn't sure as your IRC nick is different :) | 10:15 |
| tiantian | :) | 10:16 |
| shardy | tiantian: I've approved both, assigned them to you, and targeted them to Juno | 10:17 |
| shardy | zaneb: ^^ FYI | 10:17 |
| tiantian | Thanks :) | 10:18 |
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| tiantian | I'm off duty. Bye:) | 10:19 |
| shardy | o/ | 10:20 |
| cmyster | hey shardy btw | 10:21 |
| cmyster | havn't seen in you in a few days | 10:21 |
| shardy | cmyster: Hey, yeah I was at the summit in Atlanta last week, along with a lot of folks | 10:22 |
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| cmyster | oh I didn't know you went there as well | 10:22 |
| shardy | Just about recovered now, it was a tiring week ;) | 10:23 |
| cmyster | I heard as much | 10:23 |
| cmyster | my boss told me he saw the S* I guess that means you as well... | 10:23 |
| shardy | cmyster: Oh yeah I remember talking with him :) | 10:24 |
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| cmyster | well then, back to my meetings... crazy week over here | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix stack_resource's handle_adopt https://review.openstack.org/91730 | 11:11 |
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| pas-ha | can one run "reverify bug NNNN"? | 11:26 |
| skraynev | pas-ha: I tried to do it yesterday, but it did not work :( | 11:27 |
| skraynev | pas-ha: only recheck bug #### | 11:27 |
| pas-ha | ok | 11:27 |
| ekarlso | is there a way to create a user via a heat template in keystone ? | 11:27 |
| skraynev | but it was yesterday... | 11:27 |
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| andersonvom | pas-ha, skraynev: reverify can (and should) only be used once the patch has been accepted. | 11:39 |
| skraynev | andersonvom: do you mean accepted = "Approved" ? | 11:40 |
| shardy | ekarlso: not directly, although some resources do create users for communication from the instances | 11:40 |
| andersonvom | skraynev: yes! =) | 11:40 |
| skraynev | andersonvom: oh, sorry, now it's "workflowed" :) | 11:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: add hacking checks for translation support https://review.openstack.org/94255 | 11:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/heat: all non debug log messages should be translated https://review.openstack.org/94217 | 11:41 |
| skraynev | andersonvom: anyway I got your idea. thanks :) | 11:41 |
| andersonvom | skraynev: yeah, meaning, if it's been approved and you run "recheck", gerrit will clear the approved status, so you would have to use reverify instead. | 11:43 |
| andersonvom | skraynev: no problem =) | 11:43 |
| andersonvom | my pep8 keeps complaining that requirements.txt is not in alphabetical order for a while now. is this some version-specific issue? | 11:45 |
| ekarlso | shardy: basically I would like to create 1 user pr db instance and give that user access via a ACL to a container | 11:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS:Barbican:Order resource https://review.openstack.org/81906 | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS:Barbican:Verification resource https://review.openstack.org/83607 | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS:Barbican:Secret resource https://review.openstack.org/79355 | 11:46 |
| ekarlso | that's currently not possible ? | 11:47 |
| shardy | ekarlso: Ok, right now you'll probably have to create the users outside heat and pass the id's in as parameters to the stack | 11:47 |
| shardy | ekarlso: not the user creating part, no | 11:47 |
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| shardy | ekarlso: the issue is, creating users always requires admin, and we've generally tried to avoid implementing resources which do admin-only things, because we don't currently have a method to hide them from users who can't use them | 11:48 |
| shardy | ekarlso: when we work out a way to enable context-specific resource availability/visibility, we can revisit that, but before that can happen all projects need to move to using a centralized policy repository, e.g keystone | 11:49 |
| shardy | currently heat has no way to know what the policy rules for the underlying service is, so we try not to expose interfaces which will break at runtime for all normal users | 11:50 |
| ekarlso | shardy: ok! | 11:50 |
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| tspatzier | hey therve: regarding bug #1321540 - so I have an idea who to handle this backwards compatible. Shall I take the bug? | 13:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1321540 in heat "allowed value of number parameter does not work" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1321540 | 13:14 |
| therve | tspatzier, Sure please do | 13:14 |
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| tspatzier | ok. there is another one related: bug #1321549 - I'll take that as well - seems like almost one effort. | 13:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1321549 in heat "wrong input of number parameter will result in abnormal behavior of heat " [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1321549 | 13:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Only raise UpdateReplace when properties change https://review.openstack.org/94615 | 13:20 |
| therve | tspatzier, I don't think that other one is an issue | 13:21 |
| tspatzier | therve: yeah, seems like this could be false error. I'll wait for an update on the bug and then see if something needs to be done. | 13:23 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add a test equivalent to default_log_levels https://review.openstack.org/92971 | 13:23 |
| pas-ha | andersonvom: about reverify - what is the workflow then when the patch is accepted, gate (not the check) starts but fails, and ElasticRecheck suggests a bug number? | 13:26 |
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| shardy | pas-ha: recheck if it's not approved, reverify if it is | 13:27 |
| andersonvom | pas-ha: ^^ ;) | 13:27 |
| pas-ha | can one use reverify bug #### | 13:27 |
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| pas-ha | there I've done a recheck | 13:27 |
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| andersonvom | pas-ha: yeah, that's the correct syntax. if you use recheck, then it'll clear the accepted status | 13:28 |
| pas-ha | seems not - see what just got merged | 13:28 |
| pas-ha | the last from openstackgerrit | 13:28 |
| pas-ha | I've asked done a recheck there | 13:28 |
| pas-ha | I've asked for recheck there | 13:29 |
| andersonvom | pas-ha: what do you know? it also works! :D | 13:30 |
| pas-ha | andersonvom: :) | 13:30 |
| andersonvom | but I could swear that it happened to me in the past. plus I'm pretty sure someone else was talking precisely about this yesterday. | 13:31 |
| andersonvom | oh well | 13:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support mutually exclusive properties in schema https://review.openstack.org/94622 | 13:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support mutually exclusive properties in schema https://review.openstack.org/94622 | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Respect schema data type in constraint validation https://review.openstack.org/94641 | 15:04 |
| tspatzier | therve: ^^ | 15:04 |
| tspatzier | therve: I wonder whether there is a better solution for the _is_valid method of the AllowedValues constraint in constraints.py | 15:06 |
| tspatzier | btw, I forgot to do the pep8 check so will post and update in a moment. But should be ok already to get the idea | 15:07 |
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| * therve looking | 15:07 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Respect schema data type in constraint validation https://review.openstack.org/94641 | 15:11 |
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| andrearosa | hi, is Heat using specs for proposing changes? if so can you give me the pointer to the repo? | 15:19 |
| therve | Not yet? Or is it in progress? | 15:20 |
| elynn | Hi, Could anyone review this patch and help to push this patch merge? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75800/ | 15:21 |
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| elynn | I've test this patch and it work well so far | 15:22 |
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| pscheie | Is there a way to have stack-list search across multiple tenants? | 15:30 |
| therve | Yeah there is a global_tenant parameter I think | 15:37 |
| shardy | pscheie: yes, if you have sufficient admin-ness | 15:37 |
| shardy | the api site appears to be down atm so I'm not sure if the docs reflect it yet, but as therve says, global_tenant defeats tenant scope for the list request | 15:38 |
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| jcromer | hello | 15:44 |
| jcromer | if anyone is around i would like to ask a question | 15:44 |
| pas-ha | jcromer: shoot | 15:44 |
| jcromer | pas-ha on a newly created tenant i have created a user who has _member_ and heat_stack_user roles | 15:45 |
| jcromer | pas-ha: in horizon i am getting forbidden when clicking on stacks under orchestration | 15:46 |
| jcromer | pas-ha: also when attempting to do heat stack-list from pythonclient i get 403 in api logs | 15:47 |
| jcromer | pas-ha: "You are not authorized to complete this action." | 15:48 |
| pas-ha | afaik it is heat_stack_owner bu default | 15:48 |
| pas-ha | heat_stack_user is another role that is specific to VMs that need to communicate with heat api | 15:49 |
| pas-ha | heat_stack_user has very limited privileges by design | 15:49 |
| jcromer | pas-ha when i looked at policy on heat server i see a rule deny_stack_user | 15:49 |
| jcromer | pas-ha: "deny_stack_user": "not role:heat_stack_user", | 15:50 |
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| pas-ha | jcromer: assign a heat_stack_owner role to the actual "human" user | 15:50 |
| pscheie | shardy, so is global_tenant a parameter I can pass to heat? | 15:50 |
| jcromer | i have no such role at this time | 15:51 |
| shardy | jcromer: You should have heat_stack_owner, and *not* heat_stack_user | 15:52 |
| pas-ha | heat should've created this role while installing. are you using devstack? | 15:52 |
| shardy | pscheie: yes | 15:53 |
| jcromer | no used packages from ubuntu | 15:53 |
| jcromer | 14.04 | 15:53 |
| jcromer | matter of fact it didn't created heat_stack_user role either | 15:53 |
| jcromer | i had to create that one manually | 15:53 |
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| jcromer | sorry didn't create | 15:54 |
| pas-ha | jcromer: sorry, can not help you with this. not very familiar with how packaged heat works/installs :( | 15:55 |
| jcromer | so i will try to create a heat_stack_owner role and assign it to this user | 15:55 |
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| shardy | jcromer: if you want all the gory details related to those two roles, see my two most recent blog posts | 15:56 |
| shardy | http://hardysteven.blogspot.co.uk | 15:56 |
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| shardy | We need to get some much simpler info captured in a deployment guide soon | 15:57 |
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| jcromer | shardy: thanks, i will definitely read those posts, I just glanced over them now | 15:59 |
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| jcromer | shardy: i will definitely have to spend some time going through them | 16:00 |
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| jcromer | shardy: in the meantime, i will remove the heat_stack_user role from this user and create a heat_stack_owner role and assign that role to the user | 16:03 |
| shardy | jcromer: that should hopefully get things working for you | 16:03 |
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| jcromer | shardy: thanks again, i am testing this now | 16:04 |
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| pscheie | shardy, does my heat client need to be version icehouse to use global_tenant? | 16:07 |
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| shardy | pscheie: I'm not sure there is client support for it yet, at least on the CLI | 16:09 |
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| pscheie | shardy, so I have to make an api call to use it currently? | 16:09 |
| shardy | You may want to do a heat --debug stack-list then cut/paste the curl call and add ?global_tenant=True | 16:10 |
| shardy | pscheie: You can pass arbitrary kwargs to the heatclient python API, or use curl | 16:10 |
| shardy | pscheie: We just need to add a cli flag in the heatclient shell.py | 16:10 |
| pscheie | shardy, I'm mostly using curl ATM, so that would be sufficient for my needs. | 16:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Randall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update to latest version of pyrax and add Swift support https://review.openstack.org/94658 | 16:12 |
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| andersonvom | pscheie: you can pass global_tenant through filters using the heatclient | 16:12 |
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| jasond | shardy: i commented on your blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/native-waitcondition | 16:14 |
| shardy | jasond: Hey, yup I saw, if you can implement a native resource based on swift that would be great | 16:15 |
| jasond | shardy: yeah, it seems possible. will give it a shot. mind if i assign that BP to me? | 16:16 |
| pscheie | hmm, tried passing global_tenant=True to curl, but still only got results for one tenant. | 16:16 |
| andersonvom | pscheie: you also have to enable it in your policy.json | 16:16 |
| shardy | I had assumed we'd implement somthing using the native signal API but having a swift backed one seems like a good plan | 16:16 |
| shardy | jasond: will do | 16:16 |
| pscheie | andersonvom, ah, ok, will go do so. | 16:17 |
| jasond | shardy: thanks | 16:17 |
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| andersonvom | pscheie: you can try 'heat stack-list -f "global_tenant=true"' as well if that makes it easier | 16:17 |
| shardy | jasond: It would be good if we can do it (e.g from a resource naming perspective) in a way which doesn't preclude possibly having a signal based resource in the future | 16:18 |
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| shardy | OS::Heat::SwiftSignal? | 16:18 |
| shardy | or something ;) | 16:19 |
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| jasond | shardy: what would the signal-based resource be called? | 16:20 |
| shardy | jasond: I started a patch which called it OS::Heat::WaitSignal | 16:21 |
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| jasond | shardy: ok, i'll name it OS::Heat::SwiftSignal | 16:21 |
| jasond | shardy: do you think i should enter a separate BP for this? | 16:24 |
| shardy | jasond: it's up to you, it seems like a slightly different solution so perhaps it would make sense | 16:26 |
| jasond | ok | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/89243 | 16:28 |
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| miarmak | hi guys! | 18:04 |
| miarmak | There are a lot of obsolete documentation here: https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=Heat&namespace=0 | 18:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Boolean parameter type https://review.openstack.org/92920 | 18:24 |
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| pscheie | Is there any documentation on the syntax and keywords to enable global_tenant in policy.json? | 19:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Sync oslo incubator https://review.openstack.org/94702 | 19:17 |
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| stevebaker | morning | 19:27 |
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| randallburt | morning stevebaker | 19:27 |
| SpamapS | hm I think I'll miss the meeting .. conflicting appointment | 19:29 |
| SpamapS | Will make the first 5 minutes though so I can o/ and then split | 19:30 |
| zaneb | SpamapS: ok, thanks | 19:31 |
| zaneb | SpamapS: shardy suggested a recurring agenda item for just syncing on critical bugs - especially for TripleO | 19:32 |
| zaneb | anything you want discussed? | 19:32 |
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| zaneb | lifeless: fyi ^ | 19:33 |
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| SpamapS | zaneb: the one shardy is looking at so we can let num_workers == num_cpu again | 19:33 |
| zaneb | ok | 19:34 |
| therve | We ended up reverting? | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | therve: yes | 19:34 |
| therve | OK cool | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | shardy seems to have found a shared object allocated before the fork | 19:34 |
| therve | SpamapS, You can easily fire more heat-engine processes no? | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | therve: yes, but we have to calculate the CPU count and pass that in. So much better if heat just always does the most performant thing :) | 19:35 |
| therve | Yeah I guess | 19:35 |
| SpamapS | and if they're forks w/o exec.. they'll take up very little memory until they're used. | 19:35 |
| therve | It's a small optimization though | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | just whatever we allocate before we do any operations | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | therve: 50MB of python and modules doesn't seem small to me. :-P | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | * 24 .. :) | 19:36 |
| therve | SpamapS, depends on how many hours we spend on making it work reliably :) | 19:37 |
| SpamapS | therve: aye. It shouldn't be so hard though. | 19:37 |
| SpamapS | I know it is.. :-P | 19:38 |
| therve | I'm very wary of using that in python | 19:38 |
| SpamapS | but it _shouldn't be_ :) | 19:38 |
| SpamapS | therve: in theory, only monkey patching should have this affect. well written code without import side effects should be fine. | 19:39 |
| SpamapS | but therein lies the problem.. :-P | 19:39 |
| therve | python and not import side effects? good luck :D | 19:39 |
| therve | There is a reason there are so many bugs opened against the multiprocessing module | 19:40 |
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| tspatzier | hi bgorski | 19:44 |
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| therve | tspatzier, Hey I looked at your patch btw | 19:47 |
| therve | tspatzier, I don't really like that we're adding yet another place to do type coercion, but otherwise it looked fine | 19:48 |
| therve | tspatzier, Maybe missing some tests though | 19:48 |
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| tspatzier | hey therve | 19:48 |
| tspatzier | so if we want to be backward compatible, i.e. allow for numbers as strings in allowed_values we have to do the conversion somewhere. We could try to "normalise" the constraint definition according to schema data type at the time the constraint gets added to the schema. | 19:50 |
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| tspatzier | therve: what kind of tests do you have in mind? The place in test_constraints basically covers all that ends up in the code that I changed. | 19:51 |
| therve | tspatzier, For bool and string cast I was thinking | 19:52 |
| therve | I guess maybe only bool | 19:53 |
| therve | No string is not (directly) tested either | 19:53 |
| tspatzier | therve: ok, got it. to test the Schema.to_schema_type method | 19:54 |
| therve | tspatzier, Right | 19:54 |
| tspatzier | yep, will add that. but in general, do you have a better idea that doing the conversion in that place? Maybe with the two lines that you had changed in your patch and converting the constraint definition to match the schema when adding it to the schema in Schema.__init__ it could also work. | 19:56 |
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| therve | tspatzier, Actually maybe you should add the test from my patch? | 19:56 |
| therve | I wonder if that works now :) | 19:56 |
| tspatzier | therve: sure thing, that won't be a lot of effort for me to copy that in ;-) | 19:58 |
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| erecio | Hi, the meeting start now? | 19:59 |
| skraynev | erecio: yes | 20:00 |
| erecio | skraynev, Nice, thks | 20:00 |
| zaneb | meeting is underway, folks :) | 20:00 |
| zaneb | andrew_plunk: about to join the heat meeting? | 20:06 |
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| lifeless | zaneb: hi, cool - that sounds great | 20:41 |
| lifeless | zaneb: we're still trying to get the bottom of this 2 minute delay between deployments being created | 20:42 |
| openstackgerrit | William C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Introduces stack lifecycle plugpoints https://review.openstack.org/89363 | 20:42 |
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| stevebaker | lifeless: the delay will be the 100's of nova api calls every time the static_hosts expression is evaluated. An attribute cache would help. So would restructuring the templates a bit | 21:08 |
| openstackgerrit | David J Hu proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: This is a Keystone v3 integration POC. https://review.openstack.org/92728 | 21:09 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: likely indeed.. clint has a restructure pending | 21:15 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: but making it plain faster would be great :) | 21:15 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: having a nova resource attribute which builds a hostname without needing an API call would help too. "novalocal" would need to come from heat.conf though | 21:17 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: its a nova setting though | 21:18 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: multi-endpoint heat implies we can't know it globally | 21:18 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: yes, the settings would need to be aligned. maybe not practical | 21:18 |
| lifeless | being able to know that some attributes are immutable would be valuable | 21:18 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: what consumes the static_hosts? I can't find it | 21:19 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: the hosts element | 21:19 |
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| stevebaker | lifeless: ah, so why is the template {{hosts}}, not {{static_hosts}}? | 21:21 |
| lifeless | its passed in as hosts | 21:21 |
| lifeless | hosts: {get_input: static_hosts} | 21:22 |
| stevebaker | ah | 21:22 |
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| cyli | I notice the other projects' specs have gating jobs - all have docs, but some have python27 - is orchestration-specs only going to need the docs job? | 21:33 |
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| radix | python27 o.O that's weird | 21:57 |
| radix | what do they do? | 21:57 |
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| cyli | radix: not sure | 22:00 |
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| mattoliverau | Good morning all | 22:02 |
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| cyli | for orchestration-specs repo: does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94735/ look right? | 22:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move watch task out of worker process https://review.openstack.org/94736 | 22:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move EngineListener into worker process https://review.openstack.org/94737 | 22:18 |
| shardy | jasond: ^^ That last patch I'd appreciate feedback on | 22:19 |
| shardy | in particular, I'm not sure if the generation of engine_id should also be inside the forked process, to ensure the lock applies when concurrent requests get handled by different workers | 22:19 |
| shardy | tests are still todo, but I need some sleep | 22:20 |
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| stevebaker | shardy: thanks \o | 22:25 |
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| zaneb | cyli: that looks great | 23:06 |
| cyli | zaneb: thanks for +1-ing! | 23:07 |
| zaneb | not that I have any idea what it should look like | 23:07 |
| zaneb | np :) | 23:07 |
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| cyli | zaneb: I notice that the other repos have a 'test' directory, such as: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs/tree/master/tests (I'm guessing it verifies that the docs are in the right format - I *think* that may be what the python27 gating job is for for the specs). I didn't know whether we'd do the same (I'm not seeding with any repo, as per stevebaker's suggestion) - so I left out the python27 gating job, if that's ok? | 23:16 |
| zaneb | I think that's ok | 23:17 |
| stevebaker | we can add the job later once the files are in place | 23:17 |
| cyli | great, thanks! | 23:17 |
| zaneb | I think the others have a job to verify the specs, and the py27 job to verify the verifier | 23:17 |
| zaneb | or something | 23:17 |
| zaneb | there was some discussion on openstack-dev, which naturally I can no longer find | 23:18 |
| cyli | oh ok, that makes sense | 23:19 |
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