| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make sure we can create an empty template https://review.openstack.org/105894 | 00:09 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: Hello !!! | 03:10 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, I think he is on holiday | 03:11 |
| asalkeld | (not totally sure how long though) | 03:11 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: Hi.. thanks.. | 03:12 |
| cmyster | morning | 03:12 |
| asalkeld | hi cmyster | 03:12 |
| * cmyster goes about to look for something caffeinated | 03:13 | |
| cmyster | (very slowly) | 03:13 |
| asalkeld | yum | 03:13 |
| asalkeld | I'll have some too;) | 03:13 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: can I bother you with a few questions;)? | 03:13 |
| asalkeld | sure | 03:14 |
| asalkeld | happy to help if I can | 03:14 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: I had a question on 'physical_resource_id', it seems for heat specific resources we sometimes use resource_name and sometimes just leave it NULL, also our 'resource_show' does not support 'physical_resource_id' based search like AWS | 03:15 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, what returns None? | 03:16 |
| asalkeld | which resource types | 03:16 |
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| asalkeld | ramishra, as far as the search goes - we could add that. It just seems more expensive to lookup | 03:17 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: not returning None, we don't set it in resources like 'CloudWatchAlarm' | 03:18 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, yeah - that is a horrible internal resource | 03:18 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: some resources it's set to the resource_name | 03:18 |
| asalkeld | basically there is no "pyhsical id" | 03:18 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: I would think that to be an unique id | 03:19 |
| asalkeld | or we could make the resource_id == the physical id (in that case) | 03:19 |
| asalkeld | so there is something to present | 03:19 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: we have api support in heat 'resource_get_by_physical_resource_id', but not in python-heatclient | 03:20 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, we could just try find by resource name, then id, then physical id | 03:20 |
| asalkeld | (just try and find something useful) | 03:21 |
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| asalkeld | not sure it's worth making that go through the api as something special | 03:21 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: with AWS, resource_name, logical id based search require the stack_name, physical id based search is unique and don't require stack_name | 03:22 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/cli/latest/reference/cloudformation/describe-stack-resources.html | 03:22 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, ok - if it is compatiblity with AWS, then we should mirror that behaviour | 03:22 |
| asalkeld | (in our aws api) | 03:22 |
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| asalkeld | just remember the heat client only "talks" the native api | 03:23 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: IMO, we should use a GUIID for physical_resource_id, we generate where it's not given to us.. | 03:23 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, the resource id is a uuid | 03:24 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, are you interested in the aws api? | 03:24 |
| asalkeld | (are you using it) | 03:25 |
| asalkeld | or the heat client | 03:25 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: yeah...not for heat_intenal resource like wait_condition, CloudWatchAlarm | 03:25 |
| asalkeld | ok, I see what you are on about: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/wait_condition.py#L248 | 03:26 |
| asalkeld | that can't change | 03:26 |
| asalkeld | as it is what is returned by Ref | 03:27 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: yeah | 03:28 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: I think this would be unique though https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/wait_condition.py#L41 | 03:29 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: so are we saying we don't want physical_resource_id based resource_show as it's not required to be AWS compatibel? | 03:30 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, the aws API needs to be aws compatible | 03:31 |
| asalkeld | the native api is not aws compatible | 03:32 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: ok | 03:34 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, i see no reason why we can't support show by name or id | 03:34 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: you mean physical id? | 03:34 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: or logical id? | 03:35 |
| asalkeld | resource_id_set() set's the field "nova_instance" | 03:35 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: yeah | 03:35 |
| asalkeld | that == physical id | 03:35 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: yep | 03:36 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, it looks like this is supported in the aws api now | 03:37 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/api/cfn/v1/stacks.py#L572 | 03:38 |
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| asalkeld | logical res name == resource name | 03:38 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/api/cfn/v1/stacks.py#L613-L622 | 03:39 |
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| ramishra | asalkeld: ok.. yeah cfnapi support is there.. not native.. my question is would that useful with the native api and heatclient? | 03:44 |
| asalkeld | sure, as long as it doesn't break the api contract (i.e. current clients won't break) | 03:44 |
| asalkeld | and behave differently | 03:45 |
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| asalkeld | coffee time ... | 03:47 |
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| ramishra | asalkeld: I also see another issue with provider template based ceilometer alarming with HARestarter and AutoScaling.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1315048 | 03:50 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1315048 in heat "Circular dependency when using Ceilometer alarms" [Undecided,New] | 03:50 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, I'll have a look at it | 03:51 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: it works with OS::Heat::CWLiteAlarm but not with ceilometer alarm resouce as CWLiteAlarm has 'strict_dependency = False' | 03:51 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, that is an old issue | 03:51 |
| asalkeld | and basically the cw lite alarm is wrong | 03:52 |
| asalkeld | (broken) | 03:52 |
| asalkeld | I'll have another look tho' | 03:52 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: also, if you have a few mins please review some of my patches too:) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104118/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105646/ | 03:53 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: thanks | 03:53 |
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| asalkeld | ramishra, if someone uses that in their code - it will break | 03:59 |
| asalkeld | that generate template thing | 03:59 |
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| ramishra | asalkeld: ok. thanx.. will change that.. | 04:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Alter misleading cli command 'resource-template' https://review.openstack.org/104118 | 04:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Rikimaru Honjo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Restore resource_id from backup_stack https://review.openstack.org/102767 | 04:34 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: updated patch submitted for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104118/, please check when you have time.. thanx.. | 04:35 |
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| skraynev | Good morning | 06:00 |
| cmyster | morn | 06:01 |
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| sab | Hi All, Good morning, I am stuck with associating an autoscaling group with a load balancer defined in a template. can anyone help? | 06:08 |
| Yanyanhu | hi, sab, how did you write the template. I think it can work using OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup and OS::Neutron::LoadBalancer. | 06:12 |
| sab | Yanyanhu, is there a way I can mention 'members' property in LoadBalancer with an autoscaling group instances? | 06:13 |
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| Yanyanhu | no, I guess you should use nested stack to do this. You can define the autoscaling group and loadbalancer pool in the top level template and then define the autoscaling instance and member in the nested template. | 06:16 |
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| Yanyanhu | Then the loadbalancer pool id can be passed into the nested template as a property and be used by OS::Neutron::PoolMember to associate each nova server when they are created. | 06:19 |
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| sab | Yanyanhu, awesome, thank you so much. I will try with this and get back to you when I am stuck :) | 06:22 |
| Yanyanhu | sab, no problem. I have tested it in my environment, so I think it will work :-) | 06:24 |
| sab | Yanyanhu, do you have a sample template? :) | 06:24 |
| Yanyanhu | sab, yes, but I can't access it now, not in my personal compute... | 06:26 |
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| sab | Yanyanhu, np. thank you :) | 06:26 |
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| shardy | sab: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml | 06:37 |
| shardy | morning all | 06:37 |
| sab | shardy, Thank u very much :) | 06:38 |
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| Yanyanhu | morning shardy | 06:39 |
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| cmyster | morning | 06:55 |
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| cmyster | shardy: I have rechecked vs a bug, can you please re-add your +1 ? | 07:09 |
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| lifeless | might be interesting for heat folk -- http://www.redhat.com/about/news/archive/2014/7/red-hat-and-google-collaborate-on-kubernetes-to-manage-docker-containers-at-scale and https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/kubernetes/blob/master/DESIGN.md | 07:57 |
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| pas-ha | morning all :) | 07:58 |
| cmyster | morning | 07:58 |
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| Yanyanhu | hi, stevebaker, are you around? | 08:11 |
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| cmyster | not at these hours | 08:11 |
| cmyster | try, maybe 5-6 hours ago :) | 08:12 |
| Yanyanhu | cmyster, ok... thanks | 08:13 |
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| cmyster | :) | 08:14 |
| cmyster | Yanyanhu: you need him specifically ? | 08:14 |
| Yanyanhu | cmyster, just have a bug fix want to get some suggestion from him, so maybe I can try to find him later. Thanks :-) | 08:16 |
| cmyster | or, jsut ask around or a link to your patch... | 08:17 |
| Yanyanhu | hi, cmyster, this is the link, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104754/ | 08:17 |
| cmyster | :) | 08:18 |
| cmyster | I won't tell you what to do obviously, but if you need help and can't wait 'till he is back online... | 08:18 |
| Yanyanhu | cmyster, I think I can fix it from both heat or collector side, but I'm not sure which way is the best... | 08:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix monkey-patching occurence in a test https://review.openstack.org/106586 | 08:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Improve mocking in HeatTestCase https://review.openstack.org/106585 | 08:21 |
| cmyster | Yanyanhu: you can start with one of the reviewer who reviewed you code | 08:21 |
| cmyster | I'm less familiar with it so my advice won't carry wight here | 08:22 |
| Yanyanhu | cmyster, I found steve is the auth of collector, so I'm trying to ask his thought about this | 08:22 |
| Yanyanhu | cmyster, ok, thank you so much :) | 08:22 |
| cmyster | Yanyanhu: its probably best thing to do, I was just suggesting that you might want to share your current issue in here as well :) | 08:23 |
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| Yanyanhu | cmyster, sure, thanks. | 08:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Providing reference on resource during preview https://review.openstack.org/97544 | 08:45 |
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| pas-ha | btw, what is our current deprecation period consensus? If a feature (mistakenly) landed in Icehouse and I want to deprecate in now, in which release can it be removed? | 08:45 |
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| shardy | pas-ha: It depends on the feature and likely impact, but probably at least one cycle | 08:51 |
| shardy | pas-ha: what is the feature? | 08:51 |
| pas-ha | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106623/ | 08:51 |
| pas-ha | shardy, ^ | 08:52 |
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| pas-ha | not sure about a comment I put there for deprecation period :) | 08:52 |
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| pas-ha | oops. there's already a mistake in that comment: s/Volume/VolumeAttachment | 08:53 |
| shardy | pas-ha: The problem with deprecation warnings in this case is the folks who need to see them (the users, writing the templates) won't see them | 08:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add log output about HTTP calls in cinderclient https://review.openstack.org/104745 | 08:56 |
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| shardy | pas-ha: So there is an argument to just consider the update behavior a bug and fix it: | 08:57 |
| shardy | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039548.html | 08:57 |
| * cmyster wonders heat list is still on deprecated right? thats how long now ? | 08:57 | |
| shardy | well stevebaker made that argument and I somewhat agree with him | 08:57 |
| shardy | cmyster: I deprecated it in Icehouse, so I guess we can remove it sometime soon | 08:57 |
| cmyster | yup | 08:58 |
| shardy | although the client release cadence isn't tied to the periodic OpenStack releases | 08:58 |
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| pas-ha | ok, so basically just move it to native resource then. ok, will do | 08:58 |
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| shardy | pas-ha: It's actually very hard to evaluate if folks are relying on this behavior, we should probably at least send a message of warning to the Openstack general mailing list, and document the change in the release notes | 08:59 |
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| pas-ha | shardy, btw the same goes for AWS WaitCondition - bug #1340100 | 09:00 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1340100 in heat "AWS::CloudFormation::WaitCondition must not support any updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340100 | 09:00 |
| pas-ha | not sure how it will affect TriplO and the likes though | 09:00 |
| shardy | pas-ha: Yeah, we need to get the native waitcondition resources merged (and supporting updates) before we can fix that | 09:00 |
| shardy | pas-ha: Yeah, we need confirmation from SpamapS as he was the author of UpdateWaitConditionHandle | 09:01 |
| shardy | I'm not sure if TripleO still needs it after moving to SoftwareDeployments or not | 09:01 |
| shardy | I'll post a patch adding update support to the native resources up for review later today | 09:01 |
| pas-ha | shardy, WaitConditionHandle is different, the AWS one was not supporting updates anyway (that why UpdateWaitConditionHandle is there I presume) | 09:02 |
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| shardy | pas-ha: Yeah, but an updateable WaitCondition is useless without an updateable handle resource | 09:02 |
| pas-ha | true | 09:03 |
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| shardy | Simple heatclient review if anyone has a moment: | 09:08 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99326/ | 09:08 |
| shardy | been waiting for a second +2/+A for a few weeks ;) | 09:09 |
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| cmyster | shardy: you posted that autoscaling+neutron load balancer template, the lb doesn't seem to do anything | 09:16 |
| cmyster | or maybe it works differently in as case of autoscaling group ? | 09:16 |
| shardy | cmyster: have you seen the PoolMember resource in the nested template? | 09:17 |
| cmyster | sec, rechecking | 09:17 |
| cmyster | pool_id: {get_resource: pool} ? | 09:18 |
| cmyster | shardy: if your talking about OS::Neutron::PoolMember then there isn't one there | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Deprecate misleading cli command 'resource-template' https://review.openstack.org/104118 | 09:20 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/lb_server.yaml#L32 | 09:20 |
| cmyster | ahh that wasn't the template you shared earlier :) | 09:21 |
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| shardy | "PoolMember resource in the nested template" ;) | 09:21 |
| cmyster | and I was asking about the link you posted: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml and if the LB resource there is doing anything | 09:22 |
| ramishra | shardy: hi.. added a new patch with changed commit message for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104118/5.. please take a min to review it when you are free. | 09:22 |
| cmyster | apart from being created that is | 09:22 |
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| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml#L65 | 09:23 |
| shardy | ramishra: will do, thanks! | 09:23 |
| cmyster | ahhha | 09:23 |
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| cmyster | now I got it | 09:24 |
| cmyster | thanks | 09:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move VolumeAttachment updates to Cinder resource https://review.openstack.org/106623 | 10:48 |
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| cmyster | hmmm | 11:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove redundant method handle_get_attributes https://review.openstack.org/106734 | 11:05 |
| cmyster | shardy: seems like your +1 triggered jenkins to retest... | 11:05 |
| cmyster | strangeness | 11:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make sure we can create an empty template https://review.openstack.org/105894 | 11:31 |
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| cmyster | I have made a mistake in a template and got a strange error: Resource CREATE failed: StackValidationFailed: Property error : wibhbpauqcc3: Property user_data not assigned | 11:45 |
| cmyster | whats that wibhbpauqcc3 ? | 11:45 |
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| cmyster | (I'm guessing some sort of a pseudo resource name ?) | 11:47 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106734/, what kind of test do you want? AFAIK, some tests already exist (where we try to get attribute from neutron resources) | 11:48 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: Idea was just to delete additional redundant function in chain of resolving attributes. | 11:49 |
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| ramishra | skraynev: I don't see any tests for _resolve_attribute in neutron or any of the sub calsses. can you point me to one if I am missing it? I was looking for tests like test_prepare_properties in test_neutron.py | 12:01 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: we have not test for _resolve_attribute explicitly. We did it when call FnGetAtt method | 12:04 |
| skraynev | ramishra: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resource.py#L148-L151 | 12:04 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/attributes.py#L115 | 12:06 |
| skraynev | ramishra: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/attributes.py#L153-L158 | 12:06 |
| ramishra | skraynev: I think it would be better to add one, it's 'unit test' for this class and bound functions .. anyway, someone can override my -1, no issues with that.. | 12:07 |
| skraynev | ramishra: sorry for the many links ;) | 12:07 |
| skraynev | ramishra: np, I will add one. | 12:11 |
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| ramishra | skraynev: thanks! | 12:25 |
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| zaneb | shadower: do you think what I suggested in that mailing list message is enough to cover all your requirements? | 13:20 |
| shadower | zaneb: sorry, I didn't get to read through it yet. I should have a better idea in a couple of hours | 13:24 |
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| zaneb | shadower: cool, np | 13:33 |
| sergmelikyan | Do we have restriction on length for resource name in HOT? | 13:33 |
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| zaneb | shadower: just wanted to check if you had any questions while we were both online :) | 13:34 |
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| shadower | zaneb: yeah, appreciated. So the patch for 1) looks good (will test and report back), I completely missed the syntax for 2) (extended attribute of a single resource group item) -- tested it now, works | 13:35 |
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| shadower | I'll need to process the rest properly | 13:36 |
| zaneb | \o/ | 13:36 |
| zaneb | ok cool :) | 13:36 |
| shadower | zaneb: anyway, thanks a lot for your answers. This is exactly what I was hoping for -- I'm aware there were things I was missing or didn't understand properly | 13:36 |
| shadower | so this is quite helpful | 13:37 |
| zaneb | thanks for the questions! having the use cases laid out like that is extremely helpful | 13:37 |
| shadower | cool | 13:37 |
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| shadower | zaneb: btw any idea what's going on with stevebaker? He ported tripleo templates to HOT (which is awesome) but then stopped responding | 13:39 |
| zaneb | shadower: he's on holiday in Australia | 13:40 |
| shadower | zaneb: thanks, any idea when he may be back? | 13:40 |
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| shadower | I'd love to get the patches sorted & merged but don't want to step on his toes | 13:40 |
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| zaneb | shadower: it appears he'll be back on Thursday | 13:41 |
| shadower | zaneb: okay, thanks! | 13:41 |
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| shadower | zaneb: oh, using outputs to format the data. CLEVER! | 13:43 |
| shadower | I didn't think of that at all (i.e. I'm an idiot) | 13:43 |
| shadower | we absolutely plan to wrap the compute node (or whatever) in a provider resource anyway | 13:43 |
| zaneb | cool, yeah, I think once you'd done that it would have been more obvious; it's always hard to see that far ahead | 13:44 |
| shadower | yeah | 13:44 |
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| shardy | Hey guys, does anyone have time to add their opinion here before I make the changes requested by nanjj? | 13:46 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102888/10/heat/engine/resources/wait_condition.py | 13:46 |
| shardy | It's about whether we align with AWS strings for waitcondition signal statuses, or heat resource states (or both) | 13:46 |
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| ryansb | shardy: I'd lean towards aligning with heat states, but can see an argument for allowing both | 13:49 |
| shardy | ryansb: Hi, thanks for the feedback, yeah I'm undecided | 13:50 |
| shardy | So far I've tried to make the native resource much more permissive in terms of validation (of the signal data), so perhaps I should have a list of states which can be interpreted as "OK" | 13:51 |
| shardy | I guess it is possible that folks migrating from CFN waitconditions might get confused until they realize they need to s/SUCCESS/COMPLETE | 13:51 |
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| zaneb | shardy: COMPLETE doesn't even make sense to me in this context; I'd agree with nanjj | 13:54 |
| zaneb | the opposite of failure isn't completion, it's success | 13:56 |
| shardy | zaneb: Ok, thanks - It made sense to me when considering single signals, but I guess it makes less sense when you have a >1 count | 13:56 |
| zaneb | yeah, that would make it weird | 13:57 |
| shardy | I was thinking $thing_being_serialized is "complete" | 13:57 |
| shardy | Thanks, I'll revert to success | 13:57 |
| zaneb | well, it's complete whether it failed _or_ succeeded | 13:58 |
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| shardy | well arguably, or you could say it didn't complete, because it failed | 13:58 |
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| shardy | but that's just hair-splitting over language ;) | 13:59 |
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| zaneb | imo $thing_being_serialized either completes or times out, and if it completes it either fails or succeeds. but I agree we are into hair-splitting territory ;) | 14:00 |
| ryansb | I'd say allow SUCCESS or COMPLETE since COMPLETE is consistent w/ other heat resources | 14:01 |
| shardy | zaneb: Yeah, but IMO if I start a task, and fail to do it, then that task is incomplete, not complete :D | 14:01 |
| ryansb | while SUCCESS might be expected by more folks coming from CFN | 14:01 |
| zaneb | ryansb: this is a different thing to the resource state though | 14:01 |
| * shardy stops splitting hairs ;) | 14:01 | |
| ryansb | ah, I guess I conflated the two. | 14:02 |
| zaneb | the resource still goes into the COMPLETE state when it is done | 14:02 |
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| zaneb | (and so do the resources in CloudFormation) | 14:02 |
| shardy | well it's directly related to the COMPLETE state of the WaitCondition, the fact that we post data to the handle is a weird implementation related detail | 14:03 |
| zaneb | ryansb: this is about the content of the signal you send back from the instance to report whether you configured it successfully or not | 14:03 |
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| shardy | I'll just change it to success, sounds like everybody will be happy with that :) | 14:04 |
| ryansb | +1 | 14:04 |
| zaneb | +1 :) | 14:04 |
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| jpeeler | review request: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106159/ | 14:37 |
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| zaneb | jpeeler: Woohoo! congrats on getting that done :) | 14:49 |
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| jdandrea | Does anyone know offhand when attributes.py had the Schema class added? We installed icehouse (or thought we did) and it seems to be missing. Weird ... | 14:55 |
| jpeeler | zaneb: indeed yes, thanks. very soon i'll be back to "normal" | 14:55 |
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| jdandrea | nm, found it ... | 14:59 |
| jdandrea | Looks like the attribute Schema class was added after Icehouse, am I seeing this correctly? | 15:00 |
| jdandrea | https://github.com/openstack/heat/commits/master/heat/engine/attributes.py | 15:00 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: FYI, UpdateWaitConditionHandle can be deprecated now. | 20:37 |
| SpamapS | shardy: do we have a way to deprecate a resource easily? | 20:37 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: perhaps just mark it as such in the online docs? | 20:38 |
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| bodepd | someone mentioned to me that cfn style signals are supported by heat, but I can't find any docs. | 20:38 |
| jasond` | bodepd: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/cfn.html#AWS::CloudFormation::WaitCondition | 20:39 |
| shardy | SpamapS: thanks for the clarification - I think we can deprecate it via SupportStatus which will be reflected in the docs | 20:40 |
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| larsks | shardy (et al): other than autoscaling adjustments, what other heat features require "deferred authentication"? Looking to test some recent packstack changes. | 20:40 |
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| larsks | (...regarding deferred_auth_method=trusts) | 20:41 |
| bodepd | jasond`: so I can just run cfn-signal from my userdata and it will work? | 20:42 |
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| bodepd | jasond`: do those signals show up in event-list ? | 20:42 |
| shardy | larsks: all AutoScalingGroup resources and HARestarter | 20:42 |
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| larsks | shardy: Thanks. | 20:43 |
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| jasond` | bodepd: you have to define a wait condition and a wait condition handle in your template | 20:44 |
| jasond` | bodepd: not sure about event-list | 20:44 |
| SpamapS | shardy: cool, I'll work up a patch to do that and to point people at software config/deployment. :) | 20:45 |
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| bodepd | jasond`: It looks like as long as I can get the url back, I can query it directly from the deployment node | 20:46 |
| shardy | SpamapS: Or the new OS::Heat WaitCondition resources which will support updates in a similar way via a flag ;) | 20:46 |
| shardy | although that would still need credentials doing the polling to update the token I suppose | 20:46 |
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| shardy | bodepd: the signals do show up in event-list, but atm the reason strings aren't that informative | 20:47 |
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| shardy | bodepd: I've posted some patches today which improve that | 20:48 |
| bodepd | maybe, I should explain my use case :) I spin up some machines, then run some config, I need to know when the config finishes and if it was successful | 20:48 |
| shardy | bodepd: Actually, sorry if you're using the current CFN WaitCondition implementation it actually doesn't create the event | 20:49 |
| bodepd | I was thinking I could send signals and then retrieve them from the deployment script | 20:49 |
| bodepd | shardy: I'm not too fussed about the implemention. I'm still playing | 20:49 |
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| shardy | bodepd: after my patches land, it will | 20:49 |
| bodepd | shardy: I'm just trying to figure out if I can use heat to track completion, or if I should use something else (like ssh polling) | 20:50 |
| shardy | bodepd: WaitConditions can do that, but unless portability with AWS is important to you, or you need a very simple solution, you may prefer to investigate SoftwareDeployments instead | 20:50 |
| shardy | bodepd: You definitely can use heat | 20:50 |
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| bodepd | shardy: I saw the API reference, but I didn't find the docs that explained what it was | 20:51 |
| shardy | bodepd: Here's a simple example which uses curl: | 20:51 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90143/17/tempest/scenario/orchestration/test_volumes_delete_snapshot.yaml | 20:51 |
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| shardy | There are also lots of examples in the heat-templates repo which show using cfn-signal (which is really just a wrapper for curl) | 20:52 |
| bodepd | shardy: thanks for that example :) | 20:52 |
| bodepd | shardy: I probably will port what I'm working on to the soft_config stuff once I wrap my head around it | 20:52 |
| shardy | bodepd: Sounds good, there are some decent examples of SoftwareDeployments in heat-templates: | 20:55 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot/software-config | 20:56 |
| shardy | The main disadvantage of the SoftwareConfig approach is you need to build stuff into the image, whereas with WaitConditions you don't (other than curl and cloud-init) | 20:56 |
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| asalkeld | morning | 20:58 |
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| shardy | Hi asalkeld | 21:00 |
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| lipinski1 | I see in the HEat docs that for OS::Neutron::Port that network_id is deprecated. Unfortunately the systme I'm running on seems to require it. | 21:12 |
| lipinski1 | Anyone know when that changed? | 21:12 |
| lipinski1 | I want to provide some info to our environment owners to update their Heat. | 21:12 |
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| bodepd | shardy: software config also looks a little constrained for what I'm looking for. | 21:14 |
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| shardy | lipinski1: bug #1286128 - was merged after Icehouse so it's deprecated from >Juno, replaced by "network" which understands both name and ID | 21:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1286128 in heat "Allow neutron network lookup by name" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1286128 | 21:15 |
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| lipinski1 | shardy: thanks. | 21:17 |
| lipinski1 | any chance of backport? | 21:17 |
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| shardy | lipinski1: unlikely, as it's an interface change | 21:19 |
| lipinski1 | ok. thanks again | 21:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS::Swift::Signal resource https://review.openstack.org/96947 | 21:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Add example of SoftwareDeployments with cirros https://review.openstack.org/91475 | 21:52 |
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