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| bharath | Hi, I am new to heat, I was writing a template a to create two instances and to add firewall for those two instances, but how to find ips of those two instances? | 00:26 |
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| Yanyanhu | hi, stevebaker, are you around? | 01:54 |
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| tiantian | zaneb: hi, are you around? | 02:18 |
| tiantian | zaneb: about the "Update behavior for CFN compatible resources", I'm thinking about if we to revert the patches, the bugs are still exist. For example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80209/, if we just to revert the change, the resource conflict error(ports are still attached) will raised while update use the same template in heat, but it's successful in AWSCloudFormation(no matter which process is going, it will be success, right?), IMO, users care ab | 02:19 |
| tiantian | out why the operate failed than which process to go. Or I missing something? Sorry for doubt this so late. | 02:19 |
| elynn | Morning all | 02:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Remove unused parameter name in validate_value https://review.openstack.org/97765 | 03:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement events pagination, sorting and filtering https://review.openstack.org/104439 | 04:04 |
| tiantian | zaneb: are you around? | 04:04 |
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| ramishra | asalkeld: Morning, please re-review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104118/, when you have time, only commit message has changed. | 04:07 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, done | 04:10 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: thanks!! | 04:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Spec for balancing scaling groups across AZs https://review.openstack.org/105907 | 04:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Deprecate misleading cli command 'resource-template' https://review.openstack.org/104118 | 05:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/104975 | 06:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ishant Tyagi proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add subnet attribute to OS::Neutron::Port resource https://review.openstack.org/105408 | 06:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Using default FnGetRefId behavior for LaunchConfig https://review.openstack.org/97543 | 06:25 |
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| therve | Good morning! | 06:32 |
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| Qiming_ | morning, therve | 06:38 |
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| cmyster | morning | 06:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Providing reference on resource during preview https://review.openstack.org/97544 | 07:30 |
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| shardy | morning all | 07:35 |
| cmyster | morrow | 07:35 |
| elynn | morning shardy :) | 07:35 |
| elynn | morning cmyster :) | 07:35 |
| Qiming__ | morning | 07:36 |
| cmyster | heya | 07:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Huruifeng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow user to view outputs of failed stacks https://review.openstack.org/106298 | 07:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Migrate to oslo.db https://review.openstack.org/104566 | 08:15 |
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| pas-ha | morning all | 08:26 |
| shardy | pas-ha: morning, thanks for finding that cinder bug! :) | 08:26 |
| pas-ha | shardy, you welcome :) | 08:27 |
| shardy | At least it proves the test works I suppose ;) | 08:27 |
| pas-ha | Yep. The power of tempest - it works even if not merged :) | 08:28 |
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| cmyster | ++ | 08:32 |
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| jminter | shardy: is there a way using software deployments to build an instance A, then an instance B (whose configuration depends on A), then subsequently carry out a further action on server A? | 10:05 |
| jminter | e.g. deploy an OSE broker, then deploy an OSE node, then finally run a command on the broker to register the node? | 10:06 |
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| shardy | jminter: Yes I believe so, provided you have an image with the agents to poll for the metadata update | 10:07 |
| * shardy looks for an example | 10:07 | |
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| shardy | jminter: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-templates/example-deploy-sequence.yaml | 10:12 |
| shardy | jminter: I think that's basically what you need? | 10:13 |
| jminter | shardy: ah terrific, thanks. I was looking at exactly that late last night and didn't grasp its full implications | 10:13 |
| jminter | new day, fresh eyes | 10:14 |
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| shardy | jminter: Yeah some aspects of the SoftwareConfig interfaces take a little getting used to :) | 10:16 |
| shardy | Anyone know how I can run the tests (including the docs job) only for a contrib plugin? | 10:19 |
| shardy | gate's failing my ironic plugins and not sure how to locally reproduce atm.. | 10:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Mark metadata_update RPC call deprecated https://review.openstack.org/106985 | 10:27 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, o/ I was investigating retention thing for the opentsdb and found opportunity to set metadata for the timeseries in it - with retention as the number of days after which data will be automatically deleted. The only thing is that official docs say that it's not implemented yet, other ones - that is :) /me trying to reproduce :D | 10:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Providing reference on resource during preview https://review.openstack.org/97544 | 10:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ishant Tyagi proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add subnet attribute to OS::Neutron::Port resource https://review.openstack.org/105408 | 10:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add missing DeprecationWarning category to warning https://review.openstack.org/106990 | 10:42 |
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| tiantian | shardy: hi, would you please to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104439/, I modified it according to your comments, thanks very much. | 10:44 |
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| avquadri | hello all | 10:46 |
| shardy | tiantian: will do | 10:46 |
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| avquadri | i am trying add a test for the resource group -- bug 1324403 | 10:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1324403 in heat "Resource Groups need tempest tests" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1324403 | 10:46 |
| avquadri | can some one please let me know how to access the attribute value of a nested resource? | 10:47 |
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| shardy | avquadri: you need to pass the attribute out of the nested stack as an output | 10:47 |
| avquadri | yes correct, but i do not know the syntax of it | 10:48 |
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| avquadri | in the dcoumentation it is mentioned something like synthetic attributes of the form “resource.{resource index}.{attribute name}” | 10:49 |
| avquadri | as i am a new contributor, i didn't quite get this | 10:49 |
| shardy | avquadri: Ah, yeah we could use some better examples or docs for that, 2mins | 10:50 |
| avquadri | shardy, sure | 10:51 |
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| skraynev | shardy: could you give your opinion about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105408 ? Should we return subnets = [] if we get neutron exception, or will be better return subnets with information collected before exception ? | 10:56 |
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| shardy | avquadri: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106999/1/hot/resource_group.yaml | 11:24 |
| shardy | skraynev: sure, will do, just going to grab some lunch then I'll take a look | 11:24 |
| skraynev | shardy: thx | 11:26 |
| avquadri | shardy: Thanks a lot, will try this | 11:26 |
| cmyster | bon apetite | 11:26 |
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| asalkeld | skraynev, much a-do about not much here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106734/ | 11:38 |
| asalkeld | :) | 11:38 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: yes, discussion in the past :) | 11:40 |
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| avquadri | shardy: right now there is abug filed for accessing nested resource value -- bug 1341048 | 11:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1341048 in heat "get_attr path does not work with ResourceGroup members" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1341048 | 11:57 |
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| shardy | avquadri: That's only if you want to generate a list of attributes for all resources I think | 12:00 |
| shardy | you can just iterate over them in a loop for your test, and add a test for the get_attr approach later after the bugfix patches land | 12:00 |
| avquadri | shardy: ok sure thanks | 12:00 |
| shardy | avquadri: Or, write your test based on the proposed patches and mark it WIP until they get merged | 12:01 |
| avquadri | shardy: ok sure | 12:01 |
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| shardy | avquadri: actually those patches will probably also be needed for resources with complex attributes where more than one level of path is required | 12:03 |
| shardy | Either way, it should be possible to write the test, I expect those patches to land pretty soon | 12:03 |
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| avquadri | shardy: great, will go ahead with iterate option. later add the complex attributes checks also | 12:04 |
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| shardy | therve: Hey, question, why do we need the "# Apache-2.0" in the oslo.db patch requirements.txt? | 12:10 |
| therve | shardy, I just copied the line from global requirements I think | 12:10 |
| shardy | Just looks weird, given that everything is apache 2 | 12:11 |
| therve | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L54 | 12:11 |
| shardy | Ah, maybe it's a new requirements thing | 12:11 |
| therve | Possibly | 12:12 |
| shardy | seems pretty pointless if it's not consistently applied, but perhaps adding comments is wip | 12:12 |
| shardy | therve: Thanks for the clarification :) | 12:12 |
| therve | No problem :) | 12:13 |
| therve | I'll ask around | 12:13 |
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| therve | shardy, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/027345.html | 12:17 |
| shardy | therve: aha, thanks! | 12:18 |
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| asalkeld | g'night | 12:19 |
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| cmyster | cheers | 12:20 |
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| Qiming | hi, shardy | 12:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove redundant method handle_get_attributes https://review.openstack.org/106734 | 12:35 |
| Qiming | regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106999/1, maybe it would help to wait until https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106542/ is merged? | 12:36 |
| shardy | Qiming: possibly, presumably we have to maintain the old interface anyway, so I may need to update the example showing both approaches | 12:44 |
| shardy | particularly if zane's patches aren't going to be backported to Icehouse | 12:44 |
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| Qiming | shardy, it would help to use less templates to show more features | 12:44 |
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| shardy | Qiming: Ok, I just needed to show avquadri how it works right now | 12:45 |
| Qiming | shardy, no problem with that, :) | 12:45 |
| shardy | I've got no problem updating it if we can get zaneb's patches merged soon and proposed to stable ;) | 12:45 |
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| tspatzier | shardy: I actually reviewed and gave a +2 on the sample ... because it's basically showing what is there today. So you think we should actually wait for having zaneb 's updates in place? | 12:52 |
| shardy | tspatzier: I don't think it really matters, IMO having an example of how it works now is useful (I created it in response to a question here) | 12:53 |
| shardy | I can update via a subsequent patch when Zane's changes land, or during the review if they land quickly :) | 12:54 |
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| tspatzier | shardy: sure, that's what I assumed. makes sense to me :-) | 12:54 |
| shardy | We probably need some more detail added to the docs too explaining how this works with some examples | 12:54 |
| Qiming | tspatzier, I agree with shardy. Mine was only a suggestion, not a concern. :) | 12:55 |
| shardy | I agree the get_attr path approach will be cleaner when it lands :) | 12:55 |
| tspatzier | shardy: yeah, we need so much more docs. I also get asked many questions. Would I have taken some time in the past to write it down nicely once, many of the questions could be avoided :-/ | 12:55 |
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| Qiming | stevebaker had a discussion a while back with the docs team, regarding the docs problem. Have we got any conclusions so far? | 12:57 |
| tspatzier | Qiming: not that I know. My assumption is that so far we would just expand on the current template guide etc. And once the dicussion with the docs team is settled, we could migrate content. | 12:58 |
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| Qiming | tspatzier, that makes sense. With the contents there, the remaining would be a re-org problem. | 12:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: heat_keystoneclient add get_user_token https://review.openstack.org/102885 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: stack user add _user_token https://review.openstack.org/102887 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: clients make heat_url public https://review.openstack.org/102886 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: SoftwareDeployments move signal reason into resource plugin https://review.openstack.org/106825 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Convert CFN waitcondition API to resource_signal https://review.openstack.org/106824 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow plugins to specify signal event reason https://review.openstack.org/106821 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update test_signal to use stub_keystoneclient https://review.openstack.org/106820 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Return metadata from resource_signal RPC interface https://review.openstack.org/106823 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: WaitConditionHandle resources, create events with reason data https://review.openstack.org/106822 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add native WaitConditionHandle resource https://review.openstack.org/102888 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Mark metadata_update RPC call deprecated https://review.openstack.org/106985 | 13:01 |
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| pas-ha | wow | 13:08 |
| pas-ha | :) | 13:08 |
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| pas-ha | shardy, probably that cinder bug is still unrelated to your tempest patch failures, as Cinder started using PyCrypto only like a week ago | 13:10 |
| pas-ha | but we'll see | 13:10 |
| shardy | pas-ha: Hmm, but you're able to reproduce the issue where the volume is not attached? | 13:10 |
| shardy | I've not been able to reproduce that locally myself | 13:10 |
| pas-ha | on my local devstack - yes | 13:11 |
| pas-ha | with fresh masters of everything | 13:11 |
| shardy | pas-ha: Ok cool, I'll have to reclone or re-test in a VM later | 13:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Add example of using native waitcondition resources https://review.openstack.org/106424 | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: SoftwareDeployments move signal reason into resource plugin https://review.openstack.org/106825 | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Convert CFN waitcondition API to resource_signal https://review.openstack.org/106824 | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow plugins to specify signal event reason https://review.openstack.org/106821 | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update test_signal to use stub_keystoneclient https://review.openstack.org/106820 | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Return metadata from resource_signal RPC interface https://review.openstack.org/106823 | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: WaitConditionHandle resources, create events with reason data https://review.openstack.org/106822 | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add native WaitConditionHandle resource https://review.openstack.org/102888 | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Mark metadata_update RPC call deprecated https://review.openstack.org/106985 | 13:14 |
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| shardy | Are there any pre-built images with all the stuff needed for SoftwareConfig? | 13:29 |
| shardy | part of the output of TripleO CI maybe? | 13:29 |
| therve | shardy, It's fairly easy to build otherwise | 13:30 |
| shardy | therve: Yeah I just wanted a tested "known good" image after your comments a few days ago ;) | 13:31 |
| therve | My image was fine :) | 13:31 |
| therve | Using it is the problem, but you'll have that issue regardless! | 13:31 |
| shardy | therve: Oh, I thought you had issues with versions of os* or something | 13:31 |
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| shardy | my mistake ;) | 13:31 |
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| tspatzier | shardy, therve: you have to be lucky to get a good image built, though. Depending on in what state the ingredients in the different repos are ... | 13:32 |
| therve | Well I got lucky then | 13:32 |
| shardy | therve: I've actually been using SoftwareDeployments with Cirros via a hacky hook script :) | 13:32 |
| shardy | but now I want to test cleanup on scale-down, which that won't work for.. | 13:32 |
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| tspatzier | shardy: I looked a your 'hacky cirros script' :) Interesting. I actually had a question how the os-collect-config stuff gets into userdata. | 13:39 |
| therve | tspatzier, You mean the metadata? | 13:39 |
| shardy | tspatzier: Yeah, I wrote it more as a learning exercise than anything, although it may prove a viable approach for tempest tests | 13:39 |
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| tspatzier | therve: userdata in metadata I guess | 13:40 |
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| therve | tspatzier, It set by the Server resource | 13:40 |
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| tspatzier | therve: I know, but how would the server resource know to inject os-collect-config data into it? | 13:41 |
| tspatzier | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91475/4/hot/software-config/example-templates/cirros-example/init.d/heat-deploy-hook,cm | 13:41 |
| therve | tspatzier, You set SOFTWARE_CONFIG in user_data_format | 13:41 |
| zaneb | shardy, therve: the Heat gap analysis is on the agenda for today's TC meeting. late notice, but if anyone else can attend that would be a Good Thing | 13:41 |
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| shardy | zaneb: Sorry, I'd like to but I have plans this evening | 13:42 |
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| tspatzier | therve: That's what I thought. But then I tried it out but it did not appear. Maybe some issue in my environment. Now that I have confirmation from you, I can start digging ;) | 13:42 |
| therve | zaneb, I'll try to then :) | 13:43 |
| shardy | tspatzier: It's the Server resource | 13:44 |
| shardy | user_data_format: SOFTWARE_CONFIG | 13:44 |
| shardy | that triggers the code which adds the os-* stuff to the resource metadata | 13:44 |
| therve | tspatzier, It didn't appear in the metadata service? | 13:45 |
| zaneb | shardy: np. therve: thanks :) | 13:45 |
| therve | Maybe look in /var/lib/cloud | 13:45 |
| tspatzier | therve: right | 13:45 |
| zaneb | shardy: could you maybe take a glance over https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-gap-analysis if you get time today? | 13:46 |
| shardy | tspatzier: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/server.py#L467 | 13:46 |
| shardy | zaneb: sure, will do! | 13:47 |
| zaneb | cheers! | 13:47 |
| tspatzier | shardy: thanks, I will dig into this and see what is wrong in my system. probably a trivial user error in the end ;) | 13:47 |
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| shardy | tspatzier: If you're using POLL_SERVER_HEAT for the transport, and domain users, you need to ensure the auth_token middleware is configured with auth_version='v3.0' | 13:48 |
| shardy | ref my mail to the list yesterday | 13:48 |
| tspatzier | shardy: ok, thanks. that was one of the items I wanted to check. I'll bring my system in a clean state and then track it down. | 13:53 |
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| therve | shardy, Isn't there an issue with the auth_url though? | 13:54 |
| shardy | therve: possibly, although I've not hit that issue myself with the cirros script | 13:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Implement cinder client plugin https://review.openstack.org/97981 | 14:08 |
| jminter | shardy: I'm still baffled by multiple software deployments attached to a single server | 14:18 |
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| jminter | what is it that the server is supposed to poll to discover the second software deployment? | 14:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor ResourceGroup's FnGetAtt() https://review.openstack.org/106537 | 14:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use standard FnGetAtt method for Swift container https://review.openstack.org/106540 | 14:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow ResourceGroup to select an attribute path https://review.openstack.org/106542 | 14:23 |
| shardy | jminter: The server polls it's own metadata | 14:28 |
| shardy | which gets update by the deployment resource | 14:28 |
| shardy | jminter: Do you have an image built with os-collect-config and os-refresh-config in it? | 14:29 |
| jminter | yes - after manually configuring /etc/os-collect-config.conf I can see my 1st script in /var/lib/os-collect-config/cfn.json | 14:30 |
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| shardy | jminter: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/service.py#L1217 | 14:38 |
| shardy | When the SoftwareDeployment resource goes into CREATE_IN_PROGRESS, it creates a new deployment via that API | 14:38 |
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| shardy | which pushes some data to the server ID referenced | 14:38 |
| shardy | (I know, it's a bit nasty..) | 14:39 |
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| shardy | The server then polls it's own metadata, so a new deployment gets added to the list when each SoftwareDeployment starts creation | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Display stack owner when formatting stacks https://review.openstack.org/101657 | 14:47 |
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| shardy | zaneb: Added a couple of minor remarks but overall lgtm | 14:50 |
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| zaneb | shardy: awesome, thanks. That grenade thing will definitely help reduce the pressure ;) | 14:52 |
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| shardy | zaneb: Yeah, EmilienM got it working for us, but it appears to have broken again - I'll try to spend some time on it soon | 14:53 |
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| EmilienM | shardy: o/ | 14:58 |
| shardy | EmilienM: Hey, we were just discussing the heat/grenade patch - thanks again for your help looking at that | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | shardy: I'm looking now | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | shardy: someone over patch the thing | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | and dropped the -y at pip command | 15:01 |
| shardy | EmilienM: feel free to add a Co-Authored-By tag this time since you're doing all the work fixing it :) | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | shardy: nah, I don't mind about this, I just wonder why he did that | 15:04 |
| shardy | EmilienM: Hmm, I don't see it - check-grenade-dsvm worked then failed both on Patch Set 8? | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | shardy: right | 15:05 |
| shardy | I guess it may just need a recheck, but there's some review comments to look into also | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | let me try it | 15:05 |
| shardy | I've not had time to look yet unfortunately | 15:06 |
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| jasond | shardy: do you have any suggestions on how to fix bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1322098 in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94957? | 15:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1322098 in heat "test_security_group.SecurityGroupTest.test_security_group_nova_exception fail with latest novaclient" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:08 |
| jasond | i noticed you had commented on that bug | 15:09 |
| shardy | jasond: well either novaclient will get fixed and we won't need to fix it, or they will release with the regression and we'll have to restore one of the proposed fixes | 15:12 |
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| shardy | For now, the fix is basically pin to the last released version of novalclient, e.g like tox is doing for the tests | 15:12 |
| jasond | ok. i'll just wait for the fix. thanks | 15:13 |
| zaneb | jasond, shardy: AIUI stevebaker already fixed it in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97977/ but it does need a backport to Icehouse | 15:13 |
| shardy | I see the partial fix proposed to the novaclient bug got merged, so I'm not actually sure what remains to be done on the novalclient side | 15:13 |
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| jminter | shardy: thanks steve, finally understood how it works! | 15:14 |
| jminter | shardy: and it's only taken me a day :-) | 15:14 |
| shardy | zaneb: Oh, awesome, I didn't realize that :) | 15:14 |
| shardy | jminter: np, it is a little convoluted if you want to understand the internal details ;) | 15:15 |
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| zaneb | jasond: unfortunately the fix is mixed in with another big change :( But if you wanted to split it out and backport to Icehouse that would be very helpful, because all stable/icehouse patches are blocked on that atm | 15:17 |
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| jasond | zaneb: where exactly is the fix in that patch? | 15:19 |
| zaneb | jasond: in heat/tests/v1_1/fakes.py and everywhere that fakes.fake_exception() is being called | 15:20 |
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| jasond | zaneb: ok, i'll backport it | 15:20 |
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| zaneb | jasond: awesome, thank you :) | 15:21 |
| zaneb | I'll update the bug | 15:21 |
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| jasond | if my hard drive doesn't crash before then :) getting all sorts of journal commit I/O errors | 15:21 |
| zaneb | that can't be good | 15:23 |
| ryansb | ...hope you have backups. | 15:24 |
| jasond | ryansb: i do, but thanks for the reminder | 15:25 |
| ryansb | s/hope you have/time to thank past-you for configuring/ | 15:28 |
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| jasond | haha | 15:30 |
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| jdandrea | Is anyone having trouble following the link to a nested stack resource (by UUID) and getting what is essentially a "not found" page? | 15:55 |
| jdandrea | (In Horizon, that is.) | 15:55 |
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| shardy | jdandrea: Does the nested link provided on the CLI via resource-show work OK? | 16:06 |
| shardy | jdandrea: You can do heat --debug resource-show <stack> <resource which is nested stack> | 16:06 |
| shardy | then cut/paste the curl call and replace the URL | 16:06 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99326/ will make it a little easier to work out which link to use :) | 16:07 |
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| shardy | @heat-core: ^^ that still needs another +2/A btw :) | 16:07 |
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| jdandrea | shardy: I can't use the nested link in my browser as it requires AuthN, but I think the link I am really looking for is of the form /horizon/project/stacks/stack/UUID. The links in Horizon have /NESTED_STACK_RESOURCE_NAME/None appendd and those don't go anywhere. If I drop that extra part, then I can explore the nested stack's resources. | 16:12 |
| jdandrea | (This may be a Horizon issue though.) | 16:14 |
| jasond | would a core mind reviewing this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105210/ | 16:16 |
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| therve | The /None sounds suspicious | 16:16 |
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| therve | jasond, Sure | 16:16 |
| jasond | therve: thanks | 16:16 |
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| jdandrea | therve: Indeed. Not sure why that's there. *scratches head* | 16:18 |
| jdandrea | I'm really just trying to dig into an error bubbling up from OS::Nova::Server. "Error: Creation of server X failed." Alas, it isn't enough to go on. :) | 16:18 |
| * jdandrea is looking at logs for clues | 16:18 | |
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| jdandrea | Ah. "Invalid console type rdp-html5" under the instance. | 16:20 |
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| jminter | shardy: I think I've found the source of my troubles | 16:23 |
| jminter | shardy: one template with a Nova::Server + 2 software configs + 2 software deployments - success | 16:23 |
| jminter | shardy: however, if you use a provider resource which contains (nova::server + 1 software config + 1 software deployment + returns the nova::server id) | 16:24 |
| jminter | shardy: you can't re-use that in a calling template AND add on a further software config + software deployment on to it | 16:25 |
| jminter | shardy: AFAICS, things fall over because the agent calls DescribeStackResource on the nova::server itself, and the additional software deployment information doesn't appear to be propagated through to it | 16:26 |
| jminter | so the stack hangs | 16:26 |
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| jminter | shardy: AFAICS this may be a new bug | 16:29 |
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| lipinski1 | Trying to run a SoftwareConfig with a SoftwareDeployment. I'm not seeing it getting run and can't find it in the user_data portion of cloud-init. | 16:35 |
| lipinski1 | Also, heat event-list never completes creating the SoftwareDeployment resource. | 16:36 |
| therve | lipinski1, Can you show your template? | 16:36 |
| therve | If it's not in the user_data it's expected that's it's not going to be completed | 16:36 |
| lipinski1 | I'm trying to replicate something based on this example: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-templates/example-ssh-copy-id.yaml | 16:37 |
| lipinski1 | What pastebin do you use on this board? | 16:37 |
| therve | Whatever | 16:37 |
| therve | paste.openstack.org works fine | 16:37 |
| lipinski1 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/86598/ | 16:40 |
| lipinski1 | I just pasted the applicable resources, the template is rather large in itself. | 16:40 |
| lipinski1 | Trying to create a common SoftwareConfig that can be used as like a "function" that I can then use to create/deliver files with data from the template | 16:40 |
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| therve | lipinski1, So how do you know it's not in user_data? | 16:42 |
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| lipinski1 | The /tmp/blah file is never created, and I don't see any of the SoftwareConfig contents in /var/lib/cloud | 16:43 |
| lipinski1 | plus, the SoftwareDeployment resource never completes being created - so the stack is in CREATE_IN_PROGRESS for a long time (forever?) | 16:43 |
| lipinski1 | Now I tried deleting the stack and that has failed because it can't delete the SoftwareDpeloyment | 16:43 |
| therve | What do you have in /var/lib/cloud? | 16:44 |
| lipinski1 | let me spin up a new stack with that template again and tell you. | 16:44 |
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| lipinski1 | shoot. Now running into some unrelated stack creation failure : (1062, "Duplicate entry 'default-test-0-0-1' for key 'domain_id'") | 16:48 |
| andrearosa | if anyone has some spare time, could have a look at this: https://review.openstack.org/105496 | 16:48 |
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| lipinski1 | therve: Where in /var/lib/cloud should I look? I don't see my "script" anywhere in /var/lib/cloud/instance/user-data.txt | 16:52 |
| therve | Yeah that's expected | 16:54 |
| therve | lipinski1, Try a grep for os-collect-config ? | 16:54 |
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| lipinski1 | In user-data.txt here is a snippet where it seems to not get the deployment, but is getting some metadata info: {"deployments": [], "os-collect-config": {"cfn": {"stack-name": "first", "metadata_url": ... | 16:56 |
| jminter | shardy: I e-mailed you :-) | 16:56 |
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| therve | lipinski1, OK so that's correct | 16:57 |
| therve | lipinski1, What do you have in logs of os-*-config? | 16:57 |
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| lipinski1 | where would that be - on the VM or on the Heat Orch? | 16:58 |
| therve | On the VM | 16:59 |
| therve | You built the image with os-collect-config right? | 16:59 |
| lipinski1 | ah - I didn't build this image. Let me check with the provider. | 17:00 |
| lipinski1 | That is required for SoftwareDeployments? I know I've used templates with this image before with SoftwareConfigs... | 17:01 |
| therve | lipinski1, https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/elements/README.rst | 17:01 |
| therve | AFAIK if you use user_data_format = SOFTWARE_CONFIG you need that | 17:01 |
| lipinski1 | ok. thanks, will follow up with my image provider. Thanks for the assistance. | 17:02 |
| therve | No problem | 17:02 |
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| lipinski1 | therve: Another question regarding this SoftwareCofnignfig stuff. Is there some doc that explains differences between SoftwareConfig/SoftwareDeployment vs SoftwareConfig & CloudConfig as RAW user_data? The reason I ask id I'm getting pushback on adding os-config-collect to our image because of the number of other dependencies it requires.... | 17:42 |
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| therve | lipinski1, Not that I know. | 17:44 |
| therve | I think the main difference is that you can update config with a software deployment | 17:44 |
| therve | cloud config just boot time configuration | 17:44 |
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| lipinski1 | ok. We are really just looking for boot time config, but the structure of softwaredeployment provides some nice "code" re-use within the template since you can have inputs and outputs, etc. | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | William C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implements stack lifecycle plugpoints https://review.openstack.org/89363 | 20:11 |
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| therve | zaneb, Good job! | 20:40 |
| zaneb | therve: thanks :) we got away lightly :D | 20:40 |
| therve | Yeah especially if you look at the neutron wiki page! | 20:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix OS::Trove::Instance restore_point property https://review.openstack.org/105210 | 21:03 |
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| lifeless | is it possible to reference an existing Neutron port in a template? | 22:24 |
| lifeless | e.g. I don't want it created or deleted, just used ? | 22:24 |
| lifeless | the scenario I have is controlling IPAM for hosts that get SSL certs in DNS etc, from a tripleo deployment cloud - e.g. before we have DNSaaS in place etc | 22:24 |
| lifeless | So I'm thinking to create the port by hand, then we can avoid race conditions with servers etc grabbing IPs from the same subnet (which they need to) | 22:25 |
| openstackgerrit | William C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Spec for stack lifecycle plugpoint https://review.openstack.org/106468 | 22:26 |
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| zaneb | lifeless: just pass in the uuid as a parameter | 23:03 |
| zaneb | there's nothing magic about references, they're just a way of getting the uuid out of a resource | 23:04 |
| lifeless | zaneb: I don't see the uuid as a parameter in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Heat::ResourceGroup | 23:05 |
| lifeless | bah | 23:05 |
| lifeless | zaneb: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Neutron::Port | 23:05 |
| zaneb | that's properties, not parameters | 23:06 |
| zaneb | you can't create an OS::Neutron::Port resource from a uuid | 23:06 |
| zaneb | but you can use a uuid anywhere you would have used {get_resource: some_port} | 23:06 |
| lifeless | so does that mean I need two templates, one for when heat creates the port and one for when it uses the port ? | 23:07 |
| zaneb | lifeless: of more concern is why you're getting race conditions? | 23:07 |
| zaneb | probably, yes | 23:07 |
| lifeless | I would love not needing to keep adding things to merge.py | 23:08 |
| zaneb | the issue is that you need a static IP? | 23:08 |
| lifeless | let me explain the race more fully | 23:08 |
| zaneb | ok | 23:09 |
| lifeless | I'll give context you may already know, to avoid chance of confusion | 23:09 |
| lifeless | we have two separate clouds, deploy cloud and workload cloud | 23:09 |
| zaneb | sounds good :) | 23:09 |
| lifeless | the deploy cloud is an Ironic cloud with its own keystone, heat, etc. | 23:09 |
| lifeless | The workload cloud is what the template I'm talking about *deploys* | 23:09 |
| lifeless | the deploy cloud's neutron manages IP address allocation for the nodes that comprise the workload cloud | 23:10 |
| lifeless | both internal addresses and addresses that the public sees | 23:10 |
| lifeless | so there is a network+subnet in the deploy cloud neutron called 'public', which (in this case) has 138.35.77.0/26 a router configured, some push routes, and an allocation pool. | 23:11 |
| lifeless | That allocation pool is sized to provide two things: | 23:11 |
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| lifeless | - public IP addresses for every control node (for a few reasons - monitoring of uptime, ssh to admin, and because we haven't tested keepalived without an IP on an interface, the VRRP spec is a little ambiguous about capabilities there). | 23:12 |
| lifeless | - a public virtual IP that keepalived will be switching between the workload cloud control plane hosts | 23:12 |
| lifeless | that public VIP is where DNS for the SSL cert needs to point. | 23:13 |
| lifeless | For testing and non-SSL deployments, we allocate the VIP just out of the pool, so there's no race. | 23:13 |
| lifeless | For SSL, we have to pick a specific IP (or mandate the use of a DNSaaS and tie that into the output handling of the code that wraps heat to do keystone stuff etc) | 23:14 |
| lifeless | so the race is this: if we have a port that specifies fixed_ips=[{"ip_address": "138.35.77.6"}] | 23:14 |
| lifeless | and we have 3 control plane nodes booting | 23:15 |
| lifeless | we have to make sure nothing creates a port *without* that ip address constraint | 23:15 |
| lifeless | before the template is evaluated | 23:15 |
| lifeless | the template itself has a dep on the port from the software deployment that adds the port data to the control plane nodes | 23:15 |
| lifeless | I don't know if thats racy too - it might be. | 23:16 |
| zaneb | that sounds fine | 23:16 |
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| zaneb | so.. the issue is that you're creating a fixed IP at an address that is also part of a DHCP range? | 23:16 |
| lifeless | Since the software deployment can trigger after the instances are created, its possible it can race too, but the big glaring one is just that any user of the deploy cloud could claim that port by mistake | 23:16 |
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| zaneb | and there's a danger that a DHCP client will grab it first? | 23:17 |
| lifeless | zaneb: not a dhcp client, a Neutron API user. | 23:17 |
| lifeless | say someone deploying a second workload cloud on the same infrastructure | 23:17 |
| lifeless | if we take the fixed IP out of the range, we need a way to specify just an IP address sometimes, and 'use neutron to get an IP address from a port' other times. | 23:18 |
| lifeless | also we'd have to have parameters to add push routes, default routes and so on into the instances | 23:18 |
| zaneb | oh, so there's multiple ports from different stacks being joined to the same subnet, and you need to assign a static IP even though you won't know if that worked until too late | 23:18 |
| lifeless | rather than being able to pull that out of neutron | 23:18 |
| lifeless | yes | 23:18 |
| zaneb | tricky | 23:18 |
| lifeless | so my simple minded idea was create the port in Neutron, say 'here is a pre-existing thing, please use' to heat. | 23:19 |
| zaneb | it's easy to do one or the other; a template to do both is hard though :/ | 23:19 |
| zaneb | s/both/either/ | 23:20 |
| zaneb | to be more accurate | 23:20 |
| lifeless | how do you pull out attributes of the resource when you use its uuid ? | 23:20 |
| zaneb | you don't, you pass those in to the template as parameters as well if you need them | 23:21 |
| lifeless | It seems to me it would be really nice to be able to reference an existing port then, because the port (and its associated objects - subnet etc) provide all the config we need in an encapsulated fashion, we'd just be re-inventing that if we do it by hand | 23:22 |
| lifeless | see uhm review 103454 | 23:23 |
| lifeless | which is part of this overall thing and shows passing in thing by hand because they weren't accessible | 23:23 |
| lifeless | hopefully I'll get time to hack on something directly in heat at some point | 23:24 |
| lifeless | rather than just complaining around the edges like I seem to be at the moment | 23:24 |
| zaneb | the closest thing we have is "stack adopt", which allows you to specify a template and uuids for all the resources in it to put existing resources under control of Heat | 23:26 |
| zaneb | it's flaky as hell though :/ | 23:26 |
| zaneb | or rather, when you don't hit any edge cases it's fine, but there are a lot of edge cases | 23:27 |
| zaneb | I can imagine something like that working for e.g. only one resource in a stack, but I can't imagine it working right now | 23:27 |
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| zaneb | IIUC DNSaaS would solve this problem because you could register a non-static IP? | 23:28 |
| lifeless | right, we'd either tell heat how to update DNS (probably tricky - it would almost certainly be an entirely different cloud provider than the deploy cloud) | 23:33 |
| lifeless | or we'd add the port IP to the stack outputs | 23:33 |
| lifeless | and as soon as the resource goes COMPLETE we'd read that out and update DNS | 23:33 |
| zaneb | what's stopping you from doing the latter at the moment? | 23:35 |
| lifeless | I was seeking a nicer solution | 23:35 |
| lifeless | in that we dont' have DNSaaS | 23:35 |
| lifeless | so its literally 'hey Ng, can you update the DNS zone for ci-overcloud.hp1.tripleo.org' | 23:35 |
| lifeless | and putting that in a script is ewwww | 23:36 |
| zaneb | ah, ok. so if you use the same IP all the time, you never have to update it | 23:36 |
| lifeless | yes | 23:36 |
| lifeless | also I can imagine corporate FW admins having a hernia if these things move around more often than absolutely necessary | 23:37 |
| greghaynes | Do we actually need to perform the IP lookup via dns, or is it purely a problem due to ssl verification? | 23:38 |
| zaneb | it seems to me that you need some sort of external co-ordination to assign a static IP before you create the stack | 23:38 |
| greghaynes | Was thinking, theres the hacky thing you can do for ssl where you issue a wildcard cert and request ip.somedomain | 23:38 |
| greghaynes | but, super hacky | 23:38 |
| lifeless | zaneb: yes, exactly - network planning spreadsheets are where that coordination happens. | 23:39 |
| zaneb | which could be as simple as ci-overcloud.hp1.tripleo.org get's this one fixed IP and everything else gets a dynamically-assigned one from a non-overlapping range | 23:39 |
| lifeless | zaneb: the ranges aren't overlapping... the problem is they are in the same subnet | 23:39 |
| lifeless | zaneb: I guess we could create two entirely separate network definitions in neutron | 23:40 |
| lifeless | zaneb: public-static and public-dynamic | 23:40 |
| zaneb | lifeless: the dynamic pool doesn't have to cover the whole subnet though | 23:40 |
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| zaneb | "cidr": "138.35.77.0/24", "allocation_pools": [{"start": "138.35.77.16", "end": "138.35.77.254"}] | 23:43 |
| zaneb | leaves .1 for your router and .2 through .15 for static IPs that you manage through your spreadsheet | 23:45 |
| lifeless | zaneb: sure, obviously. But then we have to manually pass in routes and everything else | 23:45 |
| lifeless | that otherwise neutron would own for us | 23:45 |
| lifeless | zaneb: conceptually, it seems you said above that using an existing resource might be viable someday | 23:46 |
| zaneb | maybe, but I'm still confused about the use case ;) | 23:47 |
| lifeless | heh | 23:47 |
| zaneb | so you have a bunch of clouds, each using a port on that subnet | 23:48 |
| lifeless | I need to go grab some food, but yes. | 23:49 |
| zaneb | *some* of them need to conform to your existing DNS assignments, and others can just be assigned dynamically? | 23:49 |
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