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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support classes for heat functional tests https://review.openstack.org/110496 | 00:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add native WaitConditionHandle resource https://review.openstack.org/102888 | 01:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor UpdateReplace exception https://review.openstack.org/109194 | 02:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enable lazy translation on heat https://review.openstack.org/108917 | 02:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/105166 | 03:23 |
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| tiantian | hi asalkeld :) | 04:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Update puppet coding style https://review.openstack.org/102807 | 04:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rikimaru Honjo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Restore resource_id from backup_stack https://review.openstack.org/102767 | 05:38 |
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| skraynev | good morning | 06:00 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/104975 | 06:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Visnusaran Murugan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Added UUID to stack table and int id as primary https://review.openstack.org/106054 | 06:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Added sort options for heat stack list https://review.openstack.org/107660 | 06:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.tests https://review.openstack.org/109514 | 06:56 |
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| cmyster | morning | 07:07 |
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| pas-ha | morning all :) | 07:28 |
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| cmyster | heya | 07:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Client plugin exception handling methods https://review.openstack.org/100421 | 08:03 |
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| nikunj2512 | Hi | 09:18 |
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| nikunj2512 | I am working on this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1200053 | 09:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1200053 in heat "globalization: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 35-36: ordinal not in range(128)" [Low,Triaged] | 09:18 |
| nikunj2512 | And need some help. i started changing the code but need some guidance, so that i will know that i am going into right direction | 09:19 |
| nikunj2512 | In this bug we have to change the str() function where ever it is used in the code | 09:19 |
| nikunj2512 | So, i am replacing this str() function implementation with something like this: mystring = infile.readline() | 09:20 |
| nikunj2512 | mytext = s.decode('utf-8') | 09:20 |
| nikunj2512 | returntext = do_some_magic_with(mytext) | 09:20 |
| nikunj2512 | returnstring = returntext.encode('utf-8') | 09:20 |
| nikunj2512 | outfile.write(returnstring) | 09:20 |
| nikunj2512 | Can anyone tell me that is this is the correct way? | 09:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Antoine Abélard proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: New heat templates for Openshift-Origin deployment using scalability functionality https://review.openstack.org/111677 | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Visnusaran Murugan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Added UUID to stack table and int id as primary https://review.openstack.org/106054 | 09:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::NodeGroupTemplate resource https://review.openstack.org/100288 | 10:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement sahara client plugin https://review.openstack.org/100588 | 10:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::Cluster resource https://review.openstack.org/72336 | 10:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement OS::Sahara::ClusterTemplate resource https://review.openstack.org/101509 | 10:31 |
| cmyster | nikunj2512: I can't say cause I need to see it in context, but you could always write something up and submit and wait for comments (as I see you didn't get any in here) | 10:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix test for stack delete on same active engine https://review.openstack.org/104525 | 10:56 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/105166 | 10:58 |
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| nikunj2512 | cmyster: Thank you for your response, the reason i asked this question because it is a very big change and the str() method is used alteast 250 times in the code. So, for submitting a patch, i have to make changes at 250 places and if all of the were wrong changes then that will be a disaster for me | 11:11 |
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| pas-ha | nikunj2512, could six.text_type() help? | 12:16 |
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| pas-ha | probably not though, as AFAIK the problem is with unicode strings in Py27? right? | 12:17 |
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| Qiming | cannot create second Nova server, getting this on devstack (updated today): VirtualInterfaceCreateException: Virtual Interface creation failed | 13:50 |
| Qiming | any hints, anyone? | 13:50 |
| pas-ha | tries to put them on the same port? | 13:50 |
| Qiming | pas-ha, no | 13:50 |
| pas-ha | I mean not you but somehow nova itself | 13:51 |
| Qiming | just trying to create a second Nova server... seems nova is waiting for neutron notification about port attach result, but never received it | 13:52 |
| Qiming | the weird thing is: the first server is always created successfully | 13:52 |
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| pas-ha | I think I've seen such errors some while ago, but don;t remember what the actual cause was... | 13:53 |
| Qiming | back in April, the same bug was reported and was solved, or at least some workarounds have been checked in to neutron and devstack, respectively ... | 13:54 |
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| skraynev | according to https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/26938/virtualinterfacecreateexception-virtual-interface-creation-failed/ | 13:56 |
| skraynev | it looks like fixed problem for neutron | 13:56 |
| Qiming | skraynev, I read the same post and comments there, but sadly ... | 13:57 |
| * skraynev sigh... | 13:58 | |
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| Qiming | skraynev, had to set [nova.conf] vif_plugging_is_fatal = False; vif_plugging_timeout = 0 | 14:06 |
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| skraynev | skraynev: yeah, it's one of recommended thing... | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add stack-check action to the API https://review.openstack.org/89905 | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement check for Instance resource https://review.openstack.org/89906 | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Check resources are in expected states https://review.openstack.org/89908 | 14:45 |
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| Murali_ | can i write my own custom intrinsic functions in heat? | 15:24 |
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| zaneb | Murali_: if you control the Heat service, then yes. (the end user cannot, however) | 16:01 |
| Murali_ | okey. | 16:01 |
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| Murali_ | Zaneb: thanks. | 16:03 |
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| zaneb | np | 16:03 |
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| blinky_ghost | zaneb: Hi, can you tell me if there are some operating system images besides Fedora that I can use with SoftwareConfig elements? I tried a Centos7 image but appears to be broken. | 16:09 |
| zaneb | I don't know tbh | 16:09 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker will probably have a better idea when he wakes up | 16:09 |
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| sjmc7_ | blinky_ghost - ubuntu builds ok through disk image builder | 16:12 |
| blinky_ghost | sjmc7_: how about Centos? | 16:12 |
| sjmc7_ | i've had trouble with the centos element, haven't had time to diagnose it | 16:12 |
| blinky_ghost | sjmc7_: my guess is that elements scripts are pointing to an image http://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/cloud that appears to be beta and broken. I've tried to create my image and change the scripts but it gets stuck reporting that it cannot mount device /dev/mapper. | 16:15 |
| sjmc7_ | there're elements for debian and ubuntu. i know ubuntu works, not sure about debian | 16:16 |
| sjmc7_ | looks like opensuse too | 16:16 |
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| blinky_ghost | sjmc7_: do you have an idea how to costumize my own image to use with elements? | 16:18 |
| sjmc7_ | you mean use a glance image as a starting point? no | 16:19 |
| sjmc7_ | why would you? you already have an image | 16:19 |
| blinky_ghost | sjmc7_: I want to use CentOS, 6 or 7. I have all my stack built around it, so there's not an option to use different operating systems for me. | 16:21 |
| sjmc7_ | i would contact the author of the centos DIB element | 16:21 |
| blinky_ghost | sjmc7_: the problem is that Centos6 is not supported and Centos7 appears to be broken | 16:21 |
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| sjmc7_ | you could also take a look at what the element is configuring and see if anything looks strange versus a stock (working) image. you might also try the triple-o team | 16:23 |
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| blinky_ghost | sjmc7_: I see this on redhat-common README.md: "Alternatively, set DIB_LOCAL_IMAGE to the local path of a qcow2 cloud image. This is useful in that you can use a customized or previously built cloud image from diskimage-builder as input." | 16:27 |
| sjmc7_ | oh, interesting | 16:27 |
| sjmc7_ | so i guess you can try that. i stand corrected | 16:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Maintain compatibility with plugin_dirs config option https://review.openstack.org/111393 | 17:31 |
| sdake | blinky_ghost doubtful | 17:34 |
| blinky_ghost | sdake: what do you mean? :) | 17:39 |
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| sdake | blinky_ghost images for other distros | 17:54 |
| sdake | it is challenging enough to maintain images for one distro ;-) | 17:54 |
| sdake | you should be able to build your own easily with DIB tho | 17:55 |
| blinky_ghost | sdake: I'm testing with a centos7 that I built | 17:55 |
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| sdake | what is it doing, not booting? | 17:55 |
| sdake | centos7 should be equiv to f20 | 17:56 |
| blinky_ghost | sdake: the one that comes with default from http://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/cloud doesn't boot | 17:56 |
| sdake | more or less a 10% delta perhaps | 17:56 |
| sdake | (around content and stability) | 17:56 |
| blinky_ghost | sdake: When it boots It throws some error about filesystem and asks for root password for maintenance. My guess is because it's a beta (broken) version. | 17:59 |
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| blinky_ghost | sdake: I've managed to build a new elements image using my own qcow2 custom image, uploading to the server to test. | 18:01 |
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| sdake | not surprising rhel7 isn't finished | 18:08 |
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| sdake | actually yes it is - well centos guys slow I guess ;-) | 18:09 |
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| andersonvom | oh god, folks are now -1'ing because they don't like an underscore in the name of an inner funcion... o.O | 18:43 |
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| zaneb | andersonvom: give me their names and addresses | 18:59 |
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| andersonvom | zaneb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89908/11/heat/tests/test_parser.py | 19:01 |
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| andersonvom | zaneb: they did add other comments, but quite honestly, all of them are more style/aesthetics than actual contructive feedback. it's really annoying | 19:02 |
| andersonvom | other comments in the patch, that is, not in that file I linked | 19:02 |
| zaneb | so I kinda agree with the comment | 19:02 |
| zaneb | but I would definitely not -1 for that | 19:02 |
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| andersonvom | yeah, and I'm fine with pointing out that things could be improved. but -1 it's a bit on the harsh side. I feel it just wastes people's times | 19:03 |
| zaneb | "do we really need this? self.CHECK can referred where it is required directly" | 19:03 |
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| zaneb | that ^ is just daft | 19:03 |
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| jasond | andersonvom: you don't have to implement all of their suggestions, but i think it's good to reply and say why you disagree | 19:04 |
| jasond | zaneb: did you need to say daft? you could have said it was silly | 19:05 |
| zaneb | jasond: what's the difference? | 19:06 |
| andersonvom | jasond: feedback is fine, now -1 means "I'd prefer you didn't merge this" because of an underscore that makes no difference whatsoever seems very inefficient to me. | 19:06 |
| jasond | zaneb: :) sorry, was a joke | 19:06 |
| zaneb | andersonvom: it's an ongoing process of educating new reviewers that we all have to be involved in | 19:06 |
| zaneb | jasond: ok I get it now :D | 19:07 |
| jasond | :) | 19:07 |
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| andersonvom | zaneb: yeah... I feel you. | 19:07 |
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| ryansb | Hey, I'm working on adding heat to the openstackclient library, how would people feel about changing "action-suspend" and "action-resume" to "stack suspend" and "stack resume" | 20:13 |
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| ryansb | openstackclient is namespaced in such a way that I think leaving those commands as "action-" would be really ambiguous. | 20:13 |
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| zaneb | ryansb: inclined to +1 | 20:17 |
| zaneb | ryansb: I suspect the original reason is that the "action" API is intended to be extensible to more possible states | 20:18 |
| zaneb | although I don't think we've ever extended it | 20:18 |
| ryansb | in the same vein I'm thinking of putting the {event,output} to stack {event,output} to avoid ambiguity as well | 20:19 |
| ryansb | I feel like the other commands (resource-* and template-*) are unambiguous enough to put in the top level namespace | 20:19 |
| zaneb | ryansb: sounds good to me | 20:23 |
| zaneb | ryansb: in the API, at least, you can show the events for only a single resource as well | 20:24 |
| zaneb | not sure if the client exposes that | 20:24 |
| ryansb | it does | 20:27 |
| ryansb | heat event-show <NAME or ID> <RESOURCE> <EVENT> | 20:27 |
| ryansb | maybe "heat stack event list" and "heat resource event show"? | 20:27 |
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| ryansb | or have "heat stack event show" and "heat resource event show" ultimately do the same thing | 20:28 |
| ryansb | but both exist for consistency. | 20:28 |
| zaneb | "heat stack event list", "heat resource event list" and "heat event show" imho | 20:29 |
| ryansb | I mistyped, it'd be "openstack stack event list" and "openstack stack event list" | 20:29 |
| zaneb | ah | 20:29 |
| zaneb | in that case | 20:30 |
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| zaneb | "openstack stack event list", "openstack stack resource event list" and "openstack stack event show" maybe? | 20:30 |
| ryansb | and event-list takes a stack name/id | 20:30 |
| ryansb | we have a top level resource | 20:31 |
| ryansb | so "os resource event list" and "os resource event show" would work, and have "os stack event list" map to "os resource event list" | 20:31 |
| zaneb | maybe we shouldn't have a top-level resource though | 20:31 |
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| ryansb | hrm, maybe | 20:31 |
| zaneb | what do other projects do? | 20:31 |
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| zaneb | does e.g. Neutron have network/subnet/port/... as top-level stuff? | 20:32 |
| ryansb | they usually have a few objects https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStackClient/Commands#Objects | 20:32 |
| ryansb | network has firewall, gateway, ip floating, ip floating pool, ipsec, lb, network, etc | 20:33 |
| zaneb | ok | 20:33 |
| ryansb | so I don't think it'd be preposterous for us to have stack, resource, and template | 20:33 |
| zaneb | agree | 20:34 |
| zaneb | so events always belong to a resource | 20:34 |
| ryansb | I just felt like action and event were excessively ambigious. | 20:34 |
| zaneb | there are no non-resource-linked stack events | 20:34 |
| ryansb | ok, so doing "os resource event *" sounds like a winner. | 20:34 |
| zaneb | so it should probably be "resource event [list|show]" | 20:34 |
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| zaneb | +1 | 20:34 |
| ryansb | and outputs are stack linked, right? | 20:35 |
| ryansb | (not resource) | 20:35 |
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| zaneb | ryansb: correct | 20:35 |
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| ryansb | awesome. I'll get those impl'd | 20:36 |
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| ari_arad_ | Hi everyone, I am trying to listen to heat stack CRUD events from AMQP. I have qpid as the AMQP broker in my standalone(heat+keystone) host. I have made the following changes in the heat.conf: notification_driver=heat.openstack.common.notifier.rpc_notifier; rpc_backend=heat.openstack.common.rpc.impl_qpid; notification_topics = notifications;default_notification_level=INFO. | 20:45 |
| ari_arad_ | But I dont receive any messages in the AMQP bus | 20:45 |
| ari_arad_ | Is there anything else I need to change to get it working? | 20:45 |
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| uberj | is there a way to version the contents of /etc/heat/environments.d/ ? | 21:11 |
| uberj | like, I want a client to be able to specify which environment they want to use | 21:12 |
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| zaneb | I can't believe the OpenStack Foundation pays someone to insert grammatical errors into my ask.openstack answers | 21:15 |
| zaneb | https://ask.openstack.org/en/answers/32693/revisions/ | 21:15 |
| ryansb | lol | 21:17 |
| sjmc7_ | you should be honoured | 21:18 |
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| stevebaker | morning | 21:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Include parameters info in stack-abandon data https://review.openstack.org/111843 | 21:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Template not required on stack-adopt https://review.openstack.org/111844 | 21:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | William C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Template get_version breaks with Template object https://review.openstack.org/111348 | 21:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Refactor UpdateReplace exception https://review.openstack.org/109194 | 22:21 |
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| stevebaker | we have some work to do: PYTHONHASHSEED=666 tox -epy27 # 267 failures | 22:25 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: what do you think about removing the metadata property from HOT 2014-10-16 ? | 22:27 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1287953 | 22:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1287953 in heat "stack-update doesn't update the metadata for running stack/resources" [High,Triaged] | 22:29 |
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| uberj | what is the right way to get the logs of a software deploy that failed? When I view the failed resource's detail page in horizon I just see "Create Failed: Error: Deployment to server failed: deploy_status_code : Deployment exited with non-zero status code: 1" | 22:37 |
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| uberj | like, where does https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/elements/heat-config-puppet/install.d/hook-puppet.py put its logs? | 22:42 |
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| stevebaker | uberj: You're only option at the moment is to set it as an output on the stack. (I think the fix has landed which allows outputs to be viewed on failed stacks) | 22:42 |
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| stevebaker | uberj: but I think we need to add a blob column to the events table which can be used to store stdout/stderr | 22:43 |
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| uberj | stevebaker: I just ended up sshing into the box and running puppet on the manifests in /var/lib/heat-config/heat-config-puppet | 22:44 |
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| uberj | works for now | 22:45 |
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| stevebaker | yeah, not ideal though | 22:45 |
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| uberj | stevebaker: have you considered allowing the contents in /etc/heat/environment.d/ to be indexed via a version number? | 23:12 |
| uberj | /etc/heat/environment.d/v1/ /etc/heat/environment.d/v2/ /etc/heat/environment.d/{{ version }}/ sort of thing? | 23:13 |
| uberj | I'm thinking I want to expose resources to users via the environments.d method, but I fear I might be shooting myself in the foot if I ever decide to change how a resource behaves | 23:14 |
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| stevebaker | uberj: you could always handle versioning in the type name | 23:17 |
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| uberj | I thought about that. It would lead to version spraw in your environment definitions. also, say I'm upgrading to v2 from v1 and I have 100 yaml files in environment.d/ -- I would have to make sure to copy all 100 files (i.e. something like cp *_v1 *_v2) | 23:19 |
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| uberj | having versions would also allow me to keep definitions all in the same git repo and use tags for differentiating versions | 23:20 |
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| uberj | also, if you as a user are encoding the versions of which resources you want to use in your hot template you will have to make sure to upgrade everything correctly | 23:23 |
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| uberj | which would allow for config drift if a dev doesn't really know what he is doing | 23:24 |
| uberj | if you had an environments version you would either be on v1 or v2, and not half-half | 23:24 |
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| stevebaker | uberj: how would you see the version being selected? | 23:26 |
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| uberj | good question | 23:28 |
| uberj | my first idea would be to allow for a default environment | 23:28 |
| uberj | then allow an override key in the same scope as heat_template_version | 23:29 |
| stevebaker | uberj: fwiw we've been successful so far in making our resources backwards compatible, so this could be a non-issue | 23:29 |
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| uberj | stevebaker: I'm not worried about your resources :P | 23:29 |
| uberj | I'm working on a system that is built on top of your system, one that allows more developer facing resources to be exposed like databases and webservers (all via bundled SoftwareConfig/SoftwareDeploy resources) | 23:30 |
| stevebaker | I know, but its possible ;) you can add properties/attributes for a resource in the environment, then if you really break it just call it something else | 23:30 |
| uberj | I've seen that turn into mysqlnew2 | 23:31 |
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| uberj | bleh, I'm already feeling the anxiety of knowing that any decision I make about api's will forever be set in stone without a way to version things. | 23:46 |
| uberj | *apis | 23:46 |
| asalkeld | we have never really thought out the template versioning vs. resource type versioning | 23:50 |
| asalkeld | and how some one would specify a particular version of a resource type in there template | 23:51 |
| uberj | asalkeld: I'm not quite asking for specific versions of resources. I think that is a little too granular and would require more infrastructure I imagine. I just want to version the contents of the environment.d directory | 23:52 |
| asalkeld | ooo, I see | 23:52 |
| asalkeld | I'll read back up the screen :-O | 23:53 |
| uberj | I see the method of just calling things new names everytime you make a change to the API as a recipe for terrible organic growth | 23:53 |
| uberj | plus if you wanted to have sane versions in your template you would have to maintain a file for every version even if nothing changed between versions | 23:54 |
| uberj | i.e. right now the environment.d/default.yaml file would have to copied to environment.d/default_v1.yaml environment.d/default_v2.yaml even if there were not changes in that specific file between v1 and v2 | 23:55 |
| asalkeld | uberj, provider templates are "versioned" | 23:55 |
| uberj | (or course you wouldn't need to do that for default.yaml, but I'm using it as an example) | 23:55 |
| uberj | asalkeld: provider templates? | 23:55 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resource.py#L270 | 23:55 |
| uberj | err, what does that translate to in a yaml template? | 23:56 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/template_resource.py#L147 | 23:56 |
| asalkeld | uberj, the properties an and attributes are hashed | 23:56 |
| uberj | can you give me an example template that uses a version property? | 23:57 |
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| asalkeld | uberj, that is the issue I refered to before | 23:57 |
| asalkeld | they are versioned, but you can't specify a version | 23:57 |
| asalkeld | kinda sucky | 23:57 |
| uberj | ... I don't get it | 23:58 |
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| asalkeld | but the original reason that version was in there was for updating | 23:58 |
| asalkeld | uberj, what is your use case? | 23:58 |
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| asalkeld | what behaviour do want | 23:58 |
| asalkeld | let's start there | 23:58 |
| uberj | good idea | 23:58 |
| uberj | asalkeld: say I define a Software::Mysql softwareconfig | 23:59 |
| uberj | and it has some inputs | 23:59 |
| asalkeld | ok | 23:59 |
| uberj | people start using it | 23:59 |
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| asalkeld | ok | 23:59 |
| uberj | then I decide that I want to rewrite it to have a different number of inputs | 23:59 |
| uberj | or something else that would cause backwards compatibility to be an issue | 23:59 |
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